Repeal Liberate Christmas

[Tim-Opolis]

I'm surprisingly opposed to the Repeal. Liberate Christmas is one of the only Liberation Proposals I have ever voted FOR on.

If the Liberation is Repealed then the region will once again become open to being to being colonized by imperialist groups. Whether these groups would have good goals or not, I do enjoy the traditional Christmas raid that happens every year... And I find it much more amusing than anything that could come from a colonized or password-protected region.

So. AGAINST.

[The basement]

Perhaps I am missing something here, being new to raids and all, but if new nations are invited into Christmas, as it clearly says

"The WA Delegate does have administrative powers.
Nations do not require a password to enter.
The region's password is not displayed to residents."

- it seems to me there is only two options: 1) wait for native nations of Christmas to take action (which seems very unlikely going by what I've read of the region's inactivity) or 2) take action to restore Christmas by moving into the region or 'making a puppet' to help the region on its feet.

If alternative 2 is how raiding works, then I do not see why Christmas is open for new nations (who is checking whether the nation is a puppet or not?). Therefore I suggest someone (i.e. enough people to proclaim a WA Delegate) move a nation to Christmas and render this whole discussion obselete.

Or am I missing something that is not mentioned in the Rules and clash with the Settings of the region of Christmas?

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

If alternative 2 is how raiding works, then I do not see why Christmas is open for new nations (who is checking whether the nation is a puppet or not?). Therefore I suggest someone (i.e. enough people to proclaim a WA Delegate) move a nation to Christmas and render this whole discussion obselete.

Or am I missing something that is not mentioned in the Rules and clash with the Settings of the region of Christmas?

That happened already. With Asgard (I suggest you get comfy, there's a lot of ideology/absolutely idiotic debating going on in that thread). And the UDL/Mahaj got their panties in a bunch about an inactive raider dump. Aaaaand for some reason we bumped a two-week old dead thread to discover that.

[The basement]

If alternative 2 is how raiding works, then I do not see why Christmas is open for new nations (who is checking whether the nation is a puppet or not?). Therefore I suggest someone (i.e. enough people to proclaim a WA Delegate) move a nation to Christmas and render this whole discussion obselete.

Or am I missing something that is not mentioned in the Rules and clash with the Settings of the region of Christmas?

That happened already. With Asgard (I suggest you get comfy, there's a lot of ideology/absolutely idiotic debating going on in that thread). And the UDL/Mahaj got their panties in a bunch about an inactive raider dump. Aaaaand for some reason we bumped a two-week old dead thread to discover that.

Ah jeebuz, then it works as I feared, glad to have figured that out.
Yes I've read all through that thread, it saddens me how Mahaj could win through pure rhetoric!

[Ambroscus Koth]

Please stop bumping this thread.

[Sedgistan]

The OP doesn't seem to be pursuing it, so to prevent further necromancy, I'm locking the thread. If he wishes to work on it again, he can request it be unlocked in the Moderation forum.