Illegal SC proposals - post them here

[Aksun]

http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=anonomous_1382132619

How is that illegal, exactly?

Rule 2

"2. Proposals must contain a unique and relevant argument."

[SkyDip]

How is that illegal, exactly?

Rule 2

"2. Proposals must contain a unique and relevant argument."

Americas Paradise Land is a strong nation. It stands up for its own beliefs and stands up for a region. It would be a crime to not reward this nation.

Does that not fit the description?

[Aksun]

"It stands up for its own beliefs and stands up for a region. It would be a crime to not reward this nation."

It needs evidence as to how this person stands up for the region in question and stating why it is a crime to not reward such nation.

I mean I stand up for my own beliefs too, but there is no argument here.

[SkyDip]

"It stands up for its own beliefs and stands up for a region. It would be a crime to not reward this nation."

It needs evidence as to how this person stands up for the region in question and stating why it is a crime to not reward such nation.

I mean I stand up for my own beliefs too, but there is no argument here.

Judging by the fact it's been left up for almost two days now, I'm leaning toward the mods believing the proposal is legal.

[Individuality-ness]

"It stands up for its own beliefs and stands up for a region. It would be a crime to not reward this nation."

It needs evidence as to how this person stands up for the region in question and stating why it is a crime to not reward such nation.

I mean I stand up for my own beliefs too, but there is no argument here.

Judging by the fact it's been left up for almost two days now, I'm leaning toward the mods believing the proposal is legal.

I'm pretty sure it's legal too, but I'll defer to your judgment Mr. Delegate.

Also, to the person who originally claimed it to be illegal, you're supposed to copy/pasta the proposal text. Giving us URLs is useless if the proposal is removed.

Furthermore, it's perfectly fine to assert something without evidence in an SC proposal. This isn't NSG. So long as it has an operating clause, doesn't use personal pronouns (i.e. he, she, I, we, you), and doesn't go beyond what an SC proposal can do (e.g. impose sanctions), should be okay. Oh, and doesn't plagarize.

[Jamie Anumia]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: jaredania_1382345726
Condemn Actualisaria

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Actualisaria


Proposed by: Jaredania

Description: Security Council,

I stand before you to present my case on which to condemn Actualisaria, a ruthless country that is a danger to the International Community.

NOTING: That many Nations possess Weapons

FURTHER NOTING: That many of these are developing Nuclear Warheads illegally and without Security Council permission.

STATING: That said nation, Actualisaria, has performed nuclear tests in the past and plan to do so in the future.

FURTHER STATING: That the Regional Chemical Agent Revisionists' squad of scientists have found traces of faded plutonium in Actualisaria's largest city. Also, that citizens have stated that the Actualisarian Government has used Nuclear and conventional weapons against those who oppose them.

IMPLORING: That the Security Council take action against the oppressive government of Actualisaria, and that all weapons of mass destruction, and all weapons containing chemical agents, be confiscated from the Actualisarian Military.

CONCLUDING: That the Kingdom of Actualisaria is a war-stricken place posing a threat to its citizens and to the international community. Also, that Actualisaria has used nuclear weapons and chemical weapons against its people. In addition, that said weapons be confiscated by the Security council to be safely destroyed beyond reach from Actualisarian forces. They pose a danger to us all, and I beg you to see reason.

By your will not mine,

Jaredania

No operative clause, so Rule 3.

[Bears Armed Mission]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: jaredania_1382345726
Condemn Actualisaria

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Actualisaria


Proposed by: Jaredania

Description: Security Council,

I stand before you to present my case on which to condemn Actualisaria, a ruthless country that is a danger to the International Community.

NOTING: That many Nations possess Weapons

FURTHER NOTING: That many of these are developing Nuclear Warheads illegally and without Security Council permission.

STATING: That said nation, Actualisaria, has performed nuclear tests in the past and plan to do so in the future.

FURTHER STATING: That the Regional Chemical Agent Revisionists' squad of scientists have found traces of faded plutonium in Actualisaria's largest city. Also, that citizens have stated that the Actualisarian Government has used Nuclear and conventional weapons against those who oppose them.

IMPLORING: That the Security Council take action against the oppressive government of Actualisaria, and that all weapons of mass destruction, and all weapons containing chemical agents, be confiscated from the Actualisarian Military.

CONCLUDING: That the Kingdom of Actualisaria is a war-stricken place posing a threat to its citizens and to the international community. Also, that Actualisaria has used nuclear weapons and chemical weapons against its people. In addition, that said weapons be confiscated by the Security council to be safely destroyed beyond reach from Actualisarian forces. They pose a danger to us all, and I beg you to see reason.

By your will not mine,

Jaredania

No operative clause, so Rule 3.

Also, written from a national/individual viewpoint rather than that of the SC as a whole.

[Greater Watford]

Commend Americas Paradise Land
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Americas Paradise Land

Proposed by: Anonomous

Description: This is a bill to commend Americas Paradise Land.

Americas Paradise Land is a strong nation. It stands up for its own beliefs and stands up for a region. It would be a crime to not reward this nation.

This bill commends Americas Paradise Land

Approvals: 8 (Nawaria, The Ruhr, Tasty Water, Maoist People, Communist Eraser, Jimmy Hart, Shaw State, HARD JAZZ)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 69 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 10 hours

No real justification, no real reason for the nation to be commended, and the spelling of Anonymous really annoys me.

[SkyDip]

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Did you even bother reading the posts before you before you hit submit? I'm sorry the proposal isn't up to your illustrious standards, but as has already been hashed out, it's legal.

[Aksun]

Does it matter that the owner of the SC proposal is a CTE? That is twice now that the proposal was viewed as illegal by NS. There is something wrong with it.

[Sedgistan]

The contents of the proposal, as I think I said before, are legal. It was badly argued, but contained sufficient to be legal.

Does it matter that the owner of the SC proposal is a CTE?

Normally, no. But since the author turns out to have been a DOS player, I've removed the proposal.

[Belzia]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: central_macedonia_1382400911
Condemn Eos

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Eos


Proposed by: Central Macedonia

Description: We have to ban nuclear weapons because, it may lead to war and conflict. We need to have a world without these nuclear weapons and to live peacefully and quietly

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 77 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

where's the operative clause?

[The Two Jerseys]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: central_macedonia_1382400911
Condemn Eos

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Eos


Proposed by: Central Macedonia

Description: We have to ban nuclear weapons because, it may lead to war and conflict. We need to have a world without these nuclear weapons and to live peacefully and quietly

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 77 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

where's the operative clause?

Sounds more like a GA resolution (an illegal one at that...).

[Romberg]

Also bloggy, and

"We" leans on "I". Poor language too.

[Moronist Decisions]

FTR: Contradicts NAPA (#10)

[SkyDip]

Also bloggy, and

"We" leans on "I". Poor language too.

Not relevant. We does not in any way "lean" on I. It has been used multiple times in the past as the voice of the SC.

FTR: Contradicts NAPA (#10)

Also not relevant, as SC legislation doesn't counteract GA legislation.

Certainly, this proposal is illegal, but as was stated, it is because it has R3 and R4 violations.

[Individuality-ness]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: central_macedonia_1382400911
Condemn Eos

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Eos


Proposed by: Central Macedonia

Description: We have to ban nuclear weapons because, it may lead to war and conflict. We need to have a world without these nuclear weapons and to live peacefully and quietly

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 77 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

where's the operative clause?

Did the person walk into the SC thinking it was the GA and submit a proposal that would have been illegal in both chambers?

[Frisbeeteria]

Did the person walk into the SC thinking it was the GA and submit a proposal that would have been illegal in both chambers?

No, he was actually trying to do something with an intra-regional roleplay and failed to understand pretty much all the concepts.

I just create a proposal about you guys because we got to remove nuclear weapons from our region and I don't know if there is any nuclear weapons filled in parts of Eos and so, I have to condem you guys and i'm sorry about that and I apologize for that and let this region become a haven without nuclear weapons. Thank you very much and I hope the members of the WA can vote for that.

[Individuality-ness]

Did the person walk into the SC thinking it was the GA and submit a proposal that would have been illegal in both chambers?

No, he was actually trying to do something with an intra-regional roleplay and failed to understand pretty much all the concepts.

I just create a proposal about you guys because we got to remove nuclear weapons from our region and I don't know if there is any nuclear weapons filled in parts of Eos and so, I have to condem you guys and i'm sorry about that and I apologize for that and let this region become a haven without nuclear weapons. Thank you very much and I hope the members of the WA can vote for that.

Ah.

[SkyDip]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: bylot_1382713062

Repeal "Liberate belgium"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#4

Proposed by: Bylot

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #4: Liberate belgium shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: If a country or region knows that there will be strong enough to repel an invasion that is the only one that affects the civilian population should never having founded (at least not without the necessary guarantees as a high budget on defense) so that under any nation is its legitimate right to invade a country or region and expel its inhabitants without that this international humanitarian law is violated.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 77 more approvals)

R3

[Jamie Anumia]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: geoslitzavaika_1382816315
Condemn Suchasmallthing

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Suchasmallthing


Proposed by: Geoslitzavaika

Description: Proposed by: Geoslitzavikaa

This Condemnation is directed at The Black Riders nation of Suchasmallthing for the following reasons:

- Suchasmallthing is a highly-known and senior member of The Black Riders.

- Suchasmallthing continuously has destroyed what other people have worked months, sometimes even YEARS on.

- By doing the above, she has also successfully strikes fear in the hearts of many, people sometimes even giving up NationStates entirely do to her cruel acts.

- She should also be condemned due to her status as senior-member of the notorious Black Riders region, which is an organization aimed at wiping out months of growth and stability in some regions which she had promptly destroyed without any regrets.

- She has also shown to be vicious and ruthless, never stopping until the regions she had even stepped foot in are completely destroyed, as shown in the several regions she had put her mark on.

And that finishes my proposal written in order to Condemn Suchasmallthing.

Approvals: 1 (Union of Socialist European Republics)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 76 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 8 hours

Rule 4b - use of personal pronouns - 'she' and 'her' and Rule 3 - no actual operative clause, plus written more from the perspective of the proposing nation, so possibly Rule 4d as well?

[Jamie Anumia]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: adaloupe_1382895702
Repeal "Commend The Cat-Tribe"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: SC#46


Proposed by: Adaloupe

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #46: Commend The Cat-Tribe shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: To the World Assembly,

NOTING that GA#44 has been repealed.

ALSO NOTING that on Monday, January 23rd, 2012, The cat-tribe Ceased To Exist.

CONVINCED that The cat-tribe will not return to the world.

POINTING OUT that it is very common to see nations that are able to:

Research topics

Tell the difference between Truth and Fiction

Use logic proficiently

Be open to opinions

Approvals: 2 (Azgul, Union of Socialist European Republics)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 75 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 6 hours

No operative clause - Rule 3.

[Eist]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: allies_states_of_america_1383149648
Repeal "Condemn Gest"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: SC#122


Proposed by: Allies States of America

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #122: Condemn Gest shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: I don't care if the black rider raid other regions let them do any thing they want

Approvals: 1 (Jimmy Hart)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 75 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 11 hours

It's a pretty darn great effort, but it lacks an operative clause (R3).

[Individuality-ness]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: allies_states_of_america_1383149648
Repeal "Condemn Gest"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: SC#122


Proposed by: Allies States of America

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #122: Condemn Gest shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: I don't care if the black rider raid other regions let them do any thing they want

Approvals: 1 (Jimmy Hart)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 75 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 11 hours

It's a pretty darn great effort, but it lacks an operative clause (R3).

And is speaking as the player and not the SC (R4).

[SkyDip]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: terreria_kinnus_1383233423

Condemn Navi 227
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Navi 227

Proposed by: Terreria Kinnus

Description: This fagot went against all of our region's nations, and infected them with speed and prejiduce. He damned us to the depths of the zombie horde, and left us with no defense or cure.

Approvals: 1 (McMasterdonia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 75 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

Pretty much hits every rule other than R1, including R2c, R3, and R4b.