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Postby Frattastan » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:30 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: castle_federation_1346884662

Repeal "Liberate belgium"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation

Category: Repeal
Resolution: SC#4
Proposed by: Castle Federation

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #4: Liberate belgium shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Purpose: The region of belgium is no longer in any danger of being invaded. Under this statement belgium's liberation shows no purpose any longer.

Argument: belgium now contains a strong 111 nations. The possibility of invasion is very slim unless efficiently and strongly targeted.

Restatement: The overall purpose of this repeal is not targeted to harm belgium, but to repeal a liberation no longer necessary.

Long live belgium.


I'm not sure this resolution has an actual operative clause (Rule 3), unless we count "the overall purpose of this repeal is [...] to repeal a liberation no longer necessary".
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Postby Damanucus » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:26 pm

Frattastan wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: castle_federation_1346884662

Repeal "Liberate belgium"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation

Category: Repeal
Resolution: SC#4
Proposed by: Castle Federation

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #4: Liberate belgium shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Purpose: The region of belgium is no longer in any danger of being invaded. Under this statement belgium's liberation shows no purpose any longer.

Argument: belgium now contains a strong 111 nations. The possibility of invasion is very slim unless efficiently and strongly targeted.

Restatement: The overall purpose of this repeal is not targeted to harm belgium, but to repeal a liberation no longer necessary.

Long live belgium.


I'm not sure this resolution has an actual operative clause (Rule 3), unless we count "the overall purpose of this repeal is [...] to repeal a liberation no longer necessary".


Well, the structure is a little unusual, the punctuation is shot, but I think it's okay.

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Postby Corporation de Apple » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:16 pm

Damanucus wrote:
Frattastan wrote:
I'm not sure this resolution has an actual operative clause (Rule 3), unless we count "the overall purpose of this repeal is [...] to repeal a liberation no longer necessary".


Well, the structure is a little unusual, the punctuation is shot, but I think it's okay.

It appears the author doesn't know the meaning of the word DRAFT, as he posted his 'draft' SC topic 3 hours after the proposal was submitted. >< :unsure:
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Postby The Great Destruction » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:36 pm

There are *giggles* numerous issues with this one.

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: thegoodcountry_1347484408
Commend Thegoodcountry
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.
 
Category: Commendation
Nominee: Thegoodcountry
Proposed by: Thegoodcountry
Description: I propose the following
That criminals who commit violent crimes such as assault and murder get harsher jail sentences
Approvals: 0
Status: Lacking Support (requires 68 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 6 hours



The Dirty Minded Greeks of The Great Destruction has not approved this proposal.

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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:09 pm

The Great Destruction wrote:The Dirty Minded Greeks of The Great Destruction has not approved this proposal.

Probably a good thing. :lol:

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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:28 pm

This is illegal for multiple rules violations, including the "REMINDED" clause and "APPLAUDING" clause.

R4 violations, I might add.
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Postby Damanucus » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:58 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:This is illegal for multiple rules violations, including the "REMINDED" clause and "APPLAUDING" clause.

R4 violations, I might add.

Riiight...commending someone for making the hard decision to close down a region? Someone should've commended Mahaj then.

Edit: Just realised there's a thread for this.
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:00 pm

Damanucus wrote:
Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:This is illegal for multiple rules violations, including the "REMINDED" clause and "APPLAUDING" clause.

R4 violations, I might add.

Riiight...commending someone for making the hard decision to close down a region? Someone should've commended Mahaj then.

Shush, he might hear you and like the idea! :p

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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:25 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:This is illegal for multiple rules violations, including the "REMINDED" clause and "APPLAUDING" clause.

R4 violations, I might add.

Since it already has a thread, that kind of thing should be pointed out there.

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Postby Lower Columbia » Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:17 am

This proposal appears to have a couple of R3 violations - particularly in the DISSOLVES and AIDS lines.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:35 am

Lower Columbia wrote:This proposal appears to have a couple of R3 violations

Players typically copy the text of the proposal so that other players can poke fun at them. Linking doesn't do that since mods take the illegal ones down fairly quickly.

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Postby Frattastan » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:33 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: british_samua_1347581056

Commend Todd McCloud
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation
Nominee: Todd McCloud
Proposed by: British Samua

Description: for participation in both Security Council and General Assembly


The proposal lacks an operative clause. Rule 3.
The proposal is commending Todd again for the same set of actions (authoring resolutions). Duplication. Rule 2.
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Postby Frattastan » Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:25 am

Liberate Communist International League
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation
Nominee (region): Communist International League
Proposed by: Soviet Alba

Description: Liberation of the Empire of little flowers

APPALLED that in The Empire of Little Flowers the government has the power to seize property at will,

RECOGNIZING that the government funds private schools for intellectually gifted children.

FURTHER DISMAYED by the fact that university graduates and new home-owners toil in labour camps to work off their debts,

NOTING that inheritance tax has recently been abolished,

PROCLAIMING that the country verges on the brink of genocide,

APPALLED that Arms Manufacturing is one of the largest industries,

PROPOSING that it is the responsibility of the World Assembly to discourage regional and world powers from abusing their powers,

CONSIDERING that The Empire of Little Flowers is the most armed nation in the world it would be in the World Assembly’s best interests to liberate the country.

May the World Assembly forever prosper.


Lack of an operative clause, and doing more than what a Liberation resolution does ("liberating" ... a specific nation that resides within the target region?). Both Rule 3 violations.

EDIT: The following one too. Same author, same violations.
And since it looks like he meant "condemn", expect a third proposal. :P

Commend Little Flowers
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation
Nominee: Little Flowers
Proposed by: Soviet Alba

Description: Condemnation of the Empire of Little Flowers

APPALLED that in The Empire of Little Flowers the government has the power to seize property at will,

REALISING that the government funds private schools for intellectually gifted children.

FURTHER OUTRAGED by the fact that university graduates and new home-owners toil in labour camps to work off their debts,

NOTING that inheritance tax has recently been abolished,

PROCLAIMING that the country verges on the brink of genocide,

APPALLED that Arms Manufacturing is one of the largest industries,

PROPOSING that it is the responsibility of the World Assembly to discourage regional and world powers from abusing their powers,

CONSIDERING that The Empire of Little Flowers is the most armed nation in the world it would be in the World Assembly’s best interests to condem the country.

May the World Assembly forever prosper.
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:31 am

This could take a while...

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Postby Frattastan » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:00 am

Commend Thegoodcountry
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation
Nominee: Thegoodcountry
Proposed by: Thegoodcountry

Description: Part 1. Making sure violent crimes occur less by hiring police.

Part 2. Giving people more severe sentences for assault and murder


... lacks an operative clause? Rule 3.

:lol:
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Postby Damanucus » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:43 pm

Frattastan wrote:
Commend Thegoodcountry
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation
Nominee: Thegoodcountry
Proposed by: Thegoodcountry

Description: Part 1. Making sure violent crimes occur less by hiring police.

Part 2. Giving people more severe sentences for assault and murder


... lacks an operative clause? Rule 3.

:lol:


Lacks any substance at all. Plus he condemns himself? I'm sure that's an R2 violation. Sorry, misread the "Commend" part. But still, could that come under R2?
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Postby The Great Destruction » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:52 pm

I believe it is entirely legal (although foolish) to condemn/commend oneself.

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Postby Frattastan » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:34 am

And lacking substance is a good thing. If there's nothing in your proposal, there are no illegalities either!

Right?
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Postby Frattastan » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:07 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: ilha_rongo_koa_1347892090

Condemn Mahogania
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Mahogania
Proposed by: Ilha Rongo Koa

Description: APPALLED that Mahogania has been messing around with a non-registered, but obviously school-related region known as shanghai high school intl division(SHSID).

RECOGNIZING that most of those resident nations are just students, under the age of 18.

FURTHER DISMAYED by the fact that Mahogania has inappropriate words/languages on the message board of SHSID.

UNDERSTANDING that Mahogania is in fact a newly created nation and might have no idea about rules of NationStates

PROCLAIMING that even with the above concessions, regional humiliation of this level cannot be tolerated

REMINDED that the nation of Mahogania might keep on doing it to many other regions

FURTHER REMINDED of Mahogania’s lack of respect, and verbal violations to underage teenagers

BELEIVING that a condemnation from the World Assembly will benefit all the underage teenagers currently active in NationStates


Lack of an operative clause. Rule 3.
References to things such as "underage teenagers currently active in NationStates", a "non-registered but obviously school-related region" and "rules of NationStates". Rule 4.

Possibly Rule 2(c) since it's using a proposal to complain about alleged rules violations (instead of reporting them, I suppose).
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Postby Frattastan » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:30 pm

Liberate Presencia Humus Solum
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation
Nominee (region): Presencia Humus Solum
Proposed by: Gitchie Manito

Description: This proposal will liberate Presencia Humus Solum from The Black Riders.


Lacks an operative clause. Rule 3.

And does something that a Liberation resolution can't do - removing invader presence from a region.
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Postby Frattastan » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:08 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: british_samua_1348746476

Commend Todd McCloud
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation
Nominee: Todd McCloud
Proposed by: British Samua

Description: I wish for Todd McClouds participation in the WA's General Assembly and Security Council to be honored with this Commendation.


Some people never learn. The proposal is basically the same of this one.
Same rule violations.
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:53 pm

This is a good one.
A RESOLUTION that would condemn The One Man Democracy of The the land for their obvious violations of child abuse, as is detailed in GA#19* (although this resolution may have just been repealed by a major majority).

The purpose of this resolution is to kick The the land out of the World Assembly, as they are currently violating GA#19.

WHEREAS, a minor is defined as a person who is under the age of majority, and

WHEREAS, the One Man Democracy of The the land has allowed conscription and enlistment of minors as young as 12 years of age,

UNDERSTANDING that each country chooses if and when military enrollment is compulsory,

BUT CONDEMNING The One Man Democracy of The the land for making this choice, given that GA#19 (no, "Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc" does not apply here) still exists, and The the land is obviously violating it,

THE ONE MAN DEMOCRACY OF THE THE LAND is hereby condemned by the WA for their child abuse violations.

*Again, I would like to point out that the legal concept of Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc does not apply to this case, as this resolution was drafted before "Repeal 'Child Protection Act'" had completely undergone deliberations.

R3, no operative clause and multiple R4 violations, including the entire last section.

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Postby Damanucus » Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:28 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:This is a good one.
A RESOLUTION that would condemn The One Man Democracy of The the land for their obvious violations of child abuse, as is detailed in GA#19* (although this resolution may have just been repealed by a major majority).

The purpose of this resolution is to kick The the land out of the World Assembly, as they are currently violating GA#19.

WHEREAS, a minor is defined as a person who is under the age of majority, and

WHEREAS, the One Man Democracy of The the land has allowed conscription and enlistment of minors as young as 12 years of age,

UNDERSTANDING that each country chooses if and when military enrollment is compulsory,

BUT CONDEMNING The One Man Democracy of The the land for making this choice, given that GA#19 (no, "Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc" does not apply here) still exists, and The the land is obviously violating it,

THE ONE MAN DEMOCRACY OF THE THE LAND is hereby condemned by the WA for their child abuse violations.

*Again, I would like to point out that the legal concept of Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc does not apply to this case, as this resolution was drafted before "Repeal 'Child Protection Act'" had completely undergone deliberations.

R3, no operative clause and multiple R4 violations, including the entire last section.

Second last line is the operative clause.

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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:29 pm

Damanucus wrote:Second last line is the operative clause.

Oop, so it, thanks for the catch. Still was chalked-full of R4 nastiness. :lol:

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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:41 pm

It'd still be a Rule 3 violation, by attempting to do more than a Condemnation can:
The purpose of this resolution is to kick The the land out of the World Assembly, as they are currently violating GA#19.

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