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Postby Lenlyvit » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:11 pm

Security Council Proposal
ID: eastern_irvington_1522109041

Repeal: “Commend Goobergunchia”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#10

Proposed by: Eastern Irvington

Security Council Resolution #10 “Commend Goobergunchia” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

RECOGNIZING: A more detailed account should be provided of why this nation is guilty

NOTING: That the amended resolution will allow nations to have a better idea on why this resolution should be passed

REQUESTING: A vote on an amended, but similar resolution, be held as soon as possible

R3 (talks about being "guilty" when its a commendation?), R4(d)
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Postby Ransium » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:58 pm

Leny, can you link to the resolutions in the future? Thanks!

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Postby Lenlyvit » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:19 pm

Ransium wrote:Leny, can you link to the resolutions in the future? Thanks!

Sorry Ransium!


https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1522195400
Security Council Proposal
ID: greatinnovation_1522195400

Liberate Penglai
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.

Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): Penglai

Proposed by: GreatInnovation

The region of Penglai is a locked region. I believe that the founder is trying to lock control for anyone to take control of the world delegate position. The WA needs to take the ability away to set a password so any nation can join it and turn it into a great region.

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Postby Thils » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:12 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=kliennaker_society_1522329143

Category: Liberation
Nominee: FRC Collation
Proposed by: Kliennaker Society

FRC needs help. We must liberate them from the hold of maxtopia


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It's also a self Liberation coming from the founder and WA Delegate
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Postby Ransium » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:19 am

Thils wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=kliennaker_society_1522329143

Category: Liberation
Nominee: FRC Collation
Proposed by: Kliennaker Society

FRC needs help. We must liberate them from the hold of maxtopia


R3 Definitely
R4d maybe?
It's also a self Liberation coming from the founder and WA Delegate


I marked it illegal for R2,3

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Postby Wrapper » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:28 am

I marked it Discard. Seems like a poor attempt to get people to join the region.

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Postby Kokoku » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:04 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1522554100
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Repeal: “Liberate Femdom Empire”

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal
Resolution: SC#248
Proposed by: Cesken
Security Council Resolution #248 “Liberate Femdom Empire” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Reasoning for Repeal:
The Holy Empire of Cesken appeals to the Security Council for the repealing of the "Liberate Femdom Empire" bill. In said bill, the Femdom Empire is to have border restrictions abolished. Within the borders of the Femdom Empire, human rights have been violated, and sexism is allowed to segregate offices/buildings and male citizens are oppressed and denied basic rights. The spreading of these traditions cannot be permitted by the Security Council, or the World Assembly, and therefore, the border restrictions imposed must be re-instated, and the leaders of this regime must be put on trial for crimes against humanity.
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Postby Lenlyvit » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:24 am

Security Council Proposal
ID: democratic_empire_of_romania_1522674329

Liberate Spam
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.

Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): Spam

Proposed by: Democratic Empire of Romania

The Security Council liberates the region of Spam upon the following arguments:

AKNOWLEDGING that the Founder of the region, Captain spam, ceased to exist.

OBSERVING that it was soon raided by the forces of the Pacific.

NOTING that a password has been set up soon after the raid.

RECOGNIZING that Lardyland became a new home for a part of the region's original inhabitants.

WISHING to give back the home of those nations.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1522674329

I see that this was marked legal by two moderators, but I believe that it violates R3. It has no closing statement saying "hereby liberates Spam", which I believe is necessary for an operative clause. Unless you're going by the opening line of the proposal, then I'm not sure if it violates R3 or not.
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Postby Wrapper » Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:05 am

It is a bit backwards, and would probably make a Model UN administrator wince, but there's nothing in R3 that states an operative clause must come at the end.
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ID: the_kingdom_of_shawnlandia_1522933373


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Condemn Kaldamea
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.
Category: Condemnation
Nominee (nation): Kaldamea

We must understand that this country has been forcefull pushing rules on their fellow region mates along with constant war threats and pestering and annoying other nations until they get what they want. We must also acknowledge that he threatens other countries to change their flags and other noticeable details of their nation

R3 (no operative clause, i.e. "Hereby condemns Kaldamea"), R4b ("he threatens other countries...").
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Postby Glacikaldr » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:09 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1522996934

Security Council Proposal
ID: castle_heaven_1522996934

Condemn Union Of KingMakers
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Union of KingMakers

Proposed by: Castle Heaven

To the honorable Security Council,

I would like to enlighten the NationState's SC regarding the new entrepreneur of Raiding industry Union of KingMakers, It is fairly a new region however under it's leader KingMaker's watch many helpless region has fallen into victim. They are allied with The Invaders, It's like they are identical twines when it come to raiding. My old nation was in the region called Binsport Republic, which is still under their occupation it's been months and nothing has been done. They are always looking out for innocent prey.

As far as I have observed they deny democracy and advocate Monarchism, And suppress freedom of speech and violent way of conquering other's regions and destroy history and communities with the help of their raiding allies.Where they feel proud of their cruelty.

So we urge the all NationStates members to condemn the young destructive region Union of KingMakers for the safeguard and betterment of the Nationstates community.

Thank you all for your kind support.


By my determination, this proposal is illegal as it violates: Rules 3, 4(d)

R3: My interpretation of "NationStates members" is the reason why I feel that R3 is violated, i.e. I do not see "NationStates members" and "WA member nations" as one in the same due to membership being voluntary, and hence I deem the second-to-last clause as more so calling for a boycott-of-sorts than a security council condemnation.

R4(d): The proposal is not written from the perspective of the World Assembly, but rather it is written as if addressed to the Security Council.

Needless to say, the spelling and grammatical errors are things that I dislike but they are not enforceable issues in accordance with the rules for security council proposals. I would also argue that this proposal violated proposal basics, but that is something I do not intend to throw around as I do not fully understand in what manner Ransium uses that terminology.
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Postby Ransium » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:10 am

Unless it’s something very obscure, there’s no need to spell out the rule violations for us. I also felt R4(c) for “my old nation”
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Postby Glacikaldr » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:49 am

Ransium wrote:Unless it’s something very obscure, there’s no need to spell out the rule violations for us. I also felt R4(c) for “my old nation”


I'll remember that for next time sorry, this was my first 'illegal proposal' report, and yeah - I agree with you on R4(c) - I sadly didn't pick that at the time.

I'll probably start doing this more often ;)
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Postby Greater Cofrienolls » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:14 pm

Is the following Resolution Legal? I am not sure.

The World Assembly Acknowledges That It Is,

Aware that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was founded in early 2015 in NationStates; Founding The United Kingdoms Of The Equator and becoming quite involved in the region's governance, and later making the region a positive haven for those nations new in the world (ultimately in vain as the region ceased to exist one and a half years later) to prevent the from straying from what was right and allowing them to feel safe from raiders with the help of a strong password-admissions-Non-executive WA system.,

Observing that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was and is involved in the Anti-Raider Army (ARA), a small, yet powerful regional raiding defense organization of today; serving as Founder and Minister of Defense, and through this role attempting to protect the sovereignty of multiple regions by defending them against invasion at the hands of raiders such as Kaisserreich and The Black Hawks,

Noting that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was a driving force behind the creation of the ARA, which saw it created as the 'Last Defense Against Raiders' in the times when they are gaining the most, the original region of Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was destroyed by raiders from the region Swansonia, prompting them to create an organisation to concentrate on a primary goal of defending regions,

Perceiving that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was one of the three organisers of The Eternal Order, a region founded in late 2017, which was born on the proposition that they should wipe raiders from every Corner of NationStates history, attempting to free their original region from the occupation of the region Swansonia, though ultimately in vain.

Recalling Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar's contributions to The World, The Eternal Order, & NationStates, which include:
• Constructing and maintaining their Regional RMB, to aid communication between members, and organisation of the regional government,
• Defending with, and leading, the Anti-Raider Army -- a military that helps to defend vulnerable regions from the threat of invasion,
• Maintaining & Forgiving the region that raided his original one by successfully keeping them from internal collapse during early 2018 -- along with keeping their preferred delegate in the position of delegate - despite the delegate being unable to eject or ban nations from the region,
• Helping to reform the raiding ways of Swansonia by forgiving them and advising their leaders on how to reconsolidate power and make the region pure once again in the world.

Recognising that following control of WA Delegateship in Swansonia from the nation The Order of The Star to Greater Cofrienolls, Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar played a critical role in the transition, ensuring stability, and protecting the interests of residents of the region by encouraging and ultimately facilitating the holding of an election to allow them to decide on the regional delegate in Swansonia,

Acknowledging Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar's less relevant contributions to NationStates, including petitioning The Black Hawks to change its ways and see the categorization of themselves as raiders to be repealed and to see them into a brighter future, though ultimately in vain,

Believing that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar has had and will continue to have a major impact on the improvement of NationStates, by giving valuable responses on suggested changes to the structure of the regional environment, suggesting changes to regional governance for all regions to improve well-being of member nations in the Dispatch "A Note To All Regions: Preserving & Peace Guide"and by providing helpful advice to fledgling nations seeking to involve themselves within international affairs and fight the growing raider threat,

Concluding that through these diverse and multitudinous contributions, Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar has made the world a more peaceful and enjoyable place, helped to stop violent, destructive, and unnecessary raids, made multiple fledging nations happy, and that these actions are more than worthy of recognition through a World Assembly Commendation,

The World Assembly Hereby Commends Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar.
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Postby Ransium » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:06 pm

Lenny somewhat steered you wrong. Although it’s a long proposal and I may have missed something, I do think it is legal. However it is not what I would call “good” and contains several grammatical errors. I would highly recommend you take the time to make a topic of this submission and draft it, getting feedback from regulars.

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Postby Lenlyvit » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:46 pm

Ransium wrote:Lenny somewhat steered you wrong. Although it’s a long proposal and I may have missed something, I do think it is legal. However it is not what I would call “good” and contains several grammatical errors. I would highly recommend you take the time to make a topic of this submission and draft it, getting feedback from regulars.

I didn't steer them wrong Ransium, they were asking a question in the SC rules discussion thread about legality, which I believe belongs in this thread instead.
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Postby Ransium » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:37 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:
Ransium wrote:Lenny somewhat steered you wrong. Although it’s a long proposal and I may have missed something, I do think it is legal. However it is not what I would call “good” and contains several grammatical errors. I would highly recommend you take the time to make a topic of this submission and draft it, getting feedback from regulars.

I didn't steer them wrong Ransium, they were asking a question in the SC rules discussion thread about legality, which I believe belongs in this thread instead.


The proposal was not submitted when they posted. It should have gone its own drafting thread. The situation was overall a bit confusing though.

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Postby Lenlyvit » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:25 pm

Ransium wrote:
Lenlyvit wrote:I didn't steer them wrong Ransium, they were asking a question in the SC rules discussion thread about legality, which I believe belongs in this thread instead.


The proposal was not submitted when they posted. It should have gone its own drafting thread. The situation was overall a bit confusing though.

Oi vai, I did not know that. I'm sorry Ransium.
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Postby Lenlyvit » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:50 am

Security Council Proposal
ID: erickt_1523209546

Repeal: “Liberate KAISERREICH”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#245

Proposed by: Erickt

Security Council Resolution #245 “Liberate KAISERREICH” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The World Assembly,

NOTING that the fact presented are years old;

APPALLED that the proposal specifically targets a political ideology used by very few members of the region;

BELIEVING that having liberated KAISERREICH has merely brought the members of this region closer together;

FURTHER BELIEVING that having liberated KAISERREICH has resulted in other Far-Right wing regions to be liberated;

ACKNOWLEDGING that liberation has simply caused a witch hunt for "Nazis" or "Fascist"

The Security hereby repels "Liberate KAISERREICH"

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1523209546

R3, repel isn't a repeal.
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Postby Ransium » Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:00 am

Lenlyvit wrote:
Security Council Proposal
ID: erickt_1523209546

Repeal: “Liberate KAISERREICH”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#245

Proposed by: Erickt

Security Council Resolution #245 “Liberate KAISERREICH” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The World Assembly,

NOTING that the fact presented are years old;

APPALLED that the proposal specifically targets a political ideology used by very few members of the region;

BELIEVING that having liberated KAISERREICH has merely brought the members of this region closer together;

FURTHER BELIEVING that having liberated KAISERREICH has resulted in other Far-Right wing regions to be liberated;

ACKNOWLEDGING that liberation has simply caused a witch hunt for "Nazis" or "Fascist"

The Security hereby repels "Liberate KAISERREICH"

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1523209546

R3, repel isn't a repeal.


Well-spotted, marked it accordingly.

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Postby Lenlyvit » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:24 pm

Security Council Proposal
ID: hms_george_vi_1523229645

Condemn Xylosnow
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Xylosnow

Proposed by: HMS George VI

This is made to alert the NationStates world about this nation

Flabagasted at the raiding this nation had done with its multiple puppets, taking over innocent regions with complete lack of regard to the natives, and has also taken part in many raided under different names, and how this nation has helped out and mingled with numerous other raiding nations
Shocked at the nations belief of Xyloism, a self made ideology with itself at the head and has strong fascist beliefs, and that it tries to force its beliefs on other nations, via discord and other methods, and that it has made its own region about it, which maybe small, but has the capacity to grow, forcing it so beliefs on more nations, and darken the NationState world for worse.
Hopesthat this nation gets the condemnation that has been waiting for them for a while, and to warn other nations of its existence.
I HERBY CONDEMN Xylosnow

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1523229645

R3? R4(d)
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Postby HMS George VI » Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:01 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:
Security Council Proposal
ID: hms_george_vi_1523229645

Condemn Xylosnow
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Xylosnow

Proposed by: HMS George VI

This is made to alert the NationStates world about this nation

Flabagasted at the raiding this nation had done with its multiple puppets, taking over innocent regions with complete lack of regard to the natives, and has also taken part in many raided under different names, and how this nation has helped out and mingled with numerous other raiding nations
Shocked at the nations belief of Xyloism, a self made ideology with itself at the head and has strong fascist beliefs, and that it tries to force its beliefs on other nations, via discord and other methods, and that it has made its own region about it, which maybe small, but has the capacity to grow, forcing it so beliefs on more nations, and darken the NationState world for worse.
Hopesthat this nation gets the condemnation that has been waiting for them for a while, and to warn other nations of its existence.
I HERBY CONDEMN Xylosnow

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1523229645

R3? R4(d)

Trying to improve it, and add more in

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Postby Lenlyvit » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:23 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1523558876

Security Council Proposal
ID: new_gameindustri_1523558876

Repeal: “Liberate The East Pacific”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#247

Proposed by: New Gameindustri

Security Council Resolution #247 “Liberate The East Pacific” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Appalled that the world assembly would pass such a resolution simply because some countries in The East Pacific were afraid of their leader, thus encouraging the victim mentality,

Dumbfounded at the thought that there are those on this world who truly believe that the colors of one's documents can warrant a global call to action,

Concerned that taking action against Queen Yuno could cause her to act even more harshly towards the rest of her region,

Acknowledging that the vote to liberate has only amused Queen Yuno and will likely cause her to treat her subjects even more like playthings rather than people,

Believing that The East Pacific would truly be better off under Queen Yuno's rule,

The Security Council hereby repeals resolution #247, the resolution to "Liberate The East Pacific."


R4(b) multiple uses of "her"
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Postby Ransium » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:32 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=new_gameindustri_1523558876

Security Council Proposal
ID: new_gameindustri_1523558876

Repeal: “Liberate The East Pacific”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#247

Proposed by: New Gameindustri

Security Council Resolution #247 “Liberate The East Pacific” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Appalled that the world assembly would pass such a resolution simply because some countries in The East Pacific were afraid of their leader, thus encouraging the victim mentality,

Dumbfounded at the thought that there are those on this world who truly believe that the colors of one's documents can warrant a global call to action,

Concerned that taking action against Queen Yuno could cause her to act even more harshly towards the rest of her region,

Acknowledging that the vote to liberate has only amused Queen Yuno and will likely cause her to treat her subjects even more like playthings rather than people,

Believing that The East Pacific would truly be better off under Queen Yuno's rule,

The Security Council hereby repeals resolution #247, the resolution to "Liberate The East Pacific."


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