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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:03 am

Sedgistan wrote:Plagiarism of #SCR3 too...

Well that trumps R3 and R4. Thanks Sedge.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Crazy girl » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:08 am

Proposal removed, nation removed from the World Assembly. All is well again in the world. Coffee now!

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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:50 am

Condemn Nazi Europe was a year and a half of pain for the SC. Anyone around at the time has the text of that resolution stamped into their consciousnesses. Topid has a lot to answer for!

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:35 pm

Sedgistan wrote:Plagiarism of #SCR3 too...

I feel bad now, because my R2a sense was going off but I dismissed it without checking. :(
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:07 pm

Commend The Peoples Republic of Pacifica

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: The Peoples Republic of Pacifica

Proposed by: North Libya

Description:

RECOGNIZING that Pacifica ensured the safety of the Democratic Union of Republics while in his 42 days as interim World Assembly Delegate.

NOTICING that Pacifica created a stable Neutrality Promise-- which will remain DUR as a Non-Invader and Non-Defender Region.

STATING that Pacifica continues to serve the region and a candidate for The Deputy Minister of Law Position.

CLARIFYING that Pacifica continues to propose laws and other government-related projects including the DUR UNITY Project.

HEREBY Condemns The Peoples Republic of Pacifica for the following reasons.


R4b, and a massive R3 violation.
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Postby Crazy girl » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:49 am

Poof, all gone!

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:12 pm

Commend New Bacon

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: kazukame_1473348958

Commend New Bacon

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: New Bacon

Proposed by: Kazukame

Description: Inspired that New Bacon has discharged the duties of the WA delegate for more than hundred days
Respect that New Bacon has represented the will of the region in the WA
Praise that New Bacon has been a leader during the tough times the region faced
Do hereby commend New Bacon for the extraordinary role he has played for a long time.


R4b
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Postby Crazy girl » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:58 pm

Yup, and deleted.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:26 pm

Liberate The Red Corsairs

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): The Red Corsairs

Proposed by: Swagst

Description: To liberate The Red Corsairs from the oppression of Lone Wolves United and The Republic of Elysium Puppy 20

Liberate The North Pacific

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): The North Pacific

Proposed by: Soviet Union Of Alaska

Description: Description: We need to liberate The North Pacific from Kindom of Alexandias control


The operative clauses don't seem to be up to par.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:29 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: daft_universe_1474020274

Commend The Bar on the corner of every region

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: The Bar on the corner of every region

Proposed by: Daft Universe

Description: The bar on the corner of every region has managed to attract many nations, and serving as a RPing hub for every nation, using an embassy chat system.

They are the first of their kind and nations have followed their example and created regions like The hub that is everywhere.

Hereby Commending The bar on the corner of every region.


Illegal term under R4 - roleplaying.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:54 am

Nuked. And before CG could get to it too.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:51 am

Commend The Bar on the corner of every region

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: The Bar on the corner of every region

Proposed by: New Constitution of Lost Earth

Description: Confirming that The Bar on The Corner of Every Region has taken the record for embassies and has over two thousand embassies.

Noticing that The Bar on The Corner of Every Region is a place where nations can get together from all across NationStates to passively Roleplay, to help others, and to have a good time being a hub for all players.

Showing Responsibility keeping the region in neutrality to defenders and raiders, and keeping it safe for others.

Showing that The Bar on The Corner of Every Region Staff have been helpful to others in many ways.

Reconizes that The Bar on The Corner of Every Region is the first of its kind, and many others have tried to make regions similar.

Allowing more than just the founder and few officers to help guide the The Bar on The Corner of Every Region and what happens.

Appluades them for being able to make a fun rp environment where everything makes sense with the setting.

Hereby Commends The Bar on The Corner of Every Region
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Several R4 violations.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:56 am

Got it - thanks.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:02 pm

Liberate Heroes Rise

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): Heroes Rise

Proposed by: Kowassati

Description: Noting that there is an intent to destroy and re-found the region, Heroes Rise, and displace the native community for numerous years to come by the current invading force; however, the liberation can prevent this from happening, allowing the proper authorities to free the region from the deviant hands of occupying forces.

Recognizing that it is the Security Council’s responsibility to safeguard regions, and promote peace and good will between regions, via force if necessary, and that the circumstances occurring in the region are well worthy of international action.

Understanding that the elected representative of the native community has fled the region, surrendering the territory to the invading forces; nevertheless, this action should not justify leaving the region, and its community, to the iron will of the occupying forces, and a doomed fate.

Pledging with defending forces to support this resolution in an effort to free the region from the reckless hardships forced upon the community by the invading entities and work to take whatever actions necessary to free the region [within international laws and norms], and ensure the territory’s security in the long run.

Remarking that a liberation by force may not occur as soon as this resolution is confirmed; however, with the liberation in place by this council, invading forces will find it extremely difficult to re-found the region, giving the community hope and not be displaced for a countless number of years to come.

Hereby Liberates: Heroes Rise.

The pledging clause appears to be an R3 violation (does more than Liberate, Commend, Condemn or Repeal).
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:55 pm

Calling for nations to liberate (small "l") a region is usually fine, but this goes a bit further with use of "pledging". It's under discussion at the moment.

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Postby Adytus » Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:59 am

Sedgistan wrote:Calling for nations to liberate (small "l") a region is usually fine, but this goes a bit further with use of "pledging". It's under discussion at the moment.

Can you please explain to me this ruling? Because is that not what a liberation is to begin with, a pledge by the international community to help?
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:27 am

Adytus wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:Calling for nations to liberate (small "l") a region is usually fine, but this goes a bit further with use of "pledging". It's under discussion at the moment.

Can you please explain to me this ruling? Because is that not what a liberation is to begin with, a pledge by the international community to help?

3... Commendations/Condemnation can only commend/condemn the nominee, Liberations can only liberate the targeted region, and Repeals can only repeal the targeted resolution. For example, your proposal cannot impose fines, sanctions or a boycott on a condemned nation.

Liberations aren't pledges of support or pledges to help a region, they are just resolutions that strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region. Nothing more, nothing less. I've always considered sending aid or material support to fall under that last sentence of the rule.

I get the feeling that the author was aware that this clause was very close if not over the line regarding rule 3, which would explain why they added the poor attempt at a get out of jail free card with the "[within international laws and norms]" part. I'm assuming that moderation wouldn't take that part into consideration, since it would set a precedent on a loophole to pretty much bypass part of Rule 3.

That said, in case my interpretation of the rules isn't the same reason that the proposal was removed, a specific explanation of moderation's opinion would be helpful.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:53 am

They've resubmitted the proposal without the pledging clause, so I suspect you called it right NSA.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Adytus » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:04 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:They've resubmitted the proposal without the pledging clause, so I suspect you called it right NSA.

Kow is new at this. I would be surprised if he knew what R3 was.
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Postby Kowassati » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:54 pm

I meant to put pleading but it autocorrected to pledging my apologies

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:39 pm

Condemn Nazi Europa

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Nazi Europa

Proposed by: The Peoples Republic of Azerbaijan

Description: Security Council,

Noting that there is a region whose name implicates that they are aligned with the Nazi Party and its views, and support its horrific actions throughout history;

Recognizing that it is the Security Council’s responsibility to safeguard regions, and promote peace and good will between regions, via force if necessary, and that the circumstances occurring in the region are well worthy of international action;

Understanding that the Security Council may have better things to do;

Urging to support this resolution in an effort to condemn the region for its radical ideology, racist views, and support of the Nazi Party;

Remarking that a condemnation may not occur as soon as this resolution is confirmed;

Hereby Condemns: Nazi Europa.

R4a violations. Also, if I remember correctly, you can't condemn or commend based solely on ideology.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:38 am

We Are Not the NSA wrote:R4a violations. Also, if I remember correctly, you can't condemn or commend based solely on ideology.

I think that you can, if you can persuade enough of the voters, but for the proposal to be legal you have to explain what that ideological label means in terms of the nominee's behaviour actually within Nationstates instead of just relying on people's knowledge of RL politics & history...
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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:46 pm

Bears Armed is correct.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:43 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: kagool_1474274264

Repeal "Liberate Dank memes"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.



Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#205

Proposed by: Kagool


Description: WA Security Council Resolution #205: Liberate Dank memes shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: #FreeEntry4Harambe FreeEntry4Harambe FreeEntry4Harambe FreeEntry4HarambeFreeEntry4Harambe FreeEntry4Harambe FreeEntry4Harambe FreeEntry4Harambe FreeEntry4Harambe FreeEntry4Harambe FreeEntry4Harambe FreeEntry4Harambe FreeEntry4Harambe


R2(d), R3 and pure spam.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:25 am

Hashtags in proposals should be a deletable offence.

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