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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:55 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: fashie_1429310640

Commend Elington

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Elington

Proposed by: Fashie

Description: To recognize the nation of Elington, who cared for suppressed nations and decided to act on this bad dictatorship.

He created a region and invited all the suppressed nations to his newly found region.

He created a region of democracy where WA Delegates serve one month terms.

He hands out free items.

He posts a poll before deciding on doing ANYTHING.

This Commendation represents a pure hero, and someone we should all model our selves after.

Approvals: 1 (Fashie)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours

Several R4 violations, and I'm fairly certain there's a R3 violation.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:42 am

Would it be possible for the mods, if they take down a proposal that none of us caught, to post it up here to see exactly why it was taken down?
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:36 pm

We can do, but most are glaringly obvious in their illegality, so I'm not convinced it would achieve much.

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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:29 pm

Sedgistan wrote:We can do, but most are glaringly obvious in their illegality, so I'm not convinced it would achieve much.


Yeah.... I was nominated for a condemnation last night, that I didn't get to see. I would love to see what the author wrote.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:54 pm

Recognizing that the Nation of Jean Pierre Trudeau is a nation in The North American Union, and has caused instigating acts of war and violence against The Bunny Emporer of Krulltopia, and The New Pacific Order (NPO).


In the Security Council resolutions, it was implied that Krulltopia and The Pacifica Loyalist of Fuex, and also The Weed-Choked Lawn of A mean old man were behind the coup of several nations and the provactions and demise of such.


The New Pacific Order stands behind Krulltopia in his actions and is vengeful of Jean Pierre Trudeau, for the treatury he has caused for Krulltopia's image, the Pacific, and the occupants of such reigon.


The Pacific also see's Krulltopia's kind actions as willingness to work with other nations and the reasons for the actions of Lazurus, Balder, and related actions to be just, and Pierre's accusations unjust and spitful and intimidating.


Knowingly trusted that Jean Pierre Trudeau is not to be trusted, nor his reigon, who stands behind him,


Deems the image of Jean's nation, reigon, and occupants of such reigon to be hostile to all reigons and occupants, to be destroyed, the actions of revoking Krulltopia's commendation to be unjust and spiteful, and that Jean Pierre Trudeau's nation not fitting of normal stature and shameful recognition.
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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:48 pm

Danke Mall.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:10 pm

Happy to help.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:17 pm

Condemn Kknight

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Kknight

Proposed by: Ebsotz

Description: The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that The Chief of the General Staff of Kknight is the "Chief of Staff" for the The Black Riders, one of the most infamous raiding clans that NationStates has ever seen,

ACKNOWLEDGING that Kknight himself has raided over 500 regions in NationStates, which itself is a devious, horrendous, and a notable act,

NOTING that The Black Riders itself has been condemned by the World Assembly a variety of times, and that several staff members of the Black Riders have also been condemned,

ELECTRIFIED that The Black Riders, and Kknight, would do such a thing to the regions of NationStates, like taking away their freedoms of making a region, expressing creativity, and creating havens for victims of raiding,

HIGHLY CONCERNED about many other targets that Kknight and the Black Riders are seeking, to quench their unquenchable thirsts for terror and glory,

DETERMINED to end Kknight's reign of terror in NationStates, along with the Black Riders, and finally build the path(s) to the end of raiding once and for all,

HEREBY CONDEMNS The Chief of the General Staff of Kknight.

R4 (himself). Also, might be trying to do more than condemn (DETERMINED clause).
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Postby Religionous » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:15 am

I don't think the "DETERMINED" is actually an action clause, but there is still the R4 violation. Not bad though.

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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:57 am

Yeah, the 'Determined' clause is just fluff - it doesn't actually do anything, so that part wasn't a problem.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:12 am

Sedgistan wrote:Yeah, the 'Determined' clause is just fluff - it doesn't actually do anything, so that part wasn't a problem.

Okay. I wasn't sure if it was an action clause or just weirdly worded.
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Postby Religionous » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:01 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: sheeba789_1429637609

Commend Krulltopia

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Krulltopia

Proposed by: Sheeba789

Description: Commend Krulltopia, Krulltopia has made the Pacific what is is today. The nation should have kept its Commendation, it was taken away for no reason other than to rebel.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 9 hours

R3?

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Postby Crazy girl » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:14 am

Religionous wrote:R3?



Indeed.

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Postby Religionous » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:56 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: the_yellow_country_1429834811

Condemn UM Congregation

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: UM Congregation

Proposed by: The yellow country

Description: Condemn the Region of UM congregation.

There is enough said because they have countless amount of time tried to join regions and tear them apart from the inside and I think it is time for their small reign to end

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

R3
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: waningo_1429828964

Condemn The Black Riders

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: The Black Riders

Proposed by: Waningo

Description: Acknowledging the Black Riders as a region which, as do all regions, possesses the right to exist,
Appalled, however, that this region invaded the International Confederation, as they have various others throughout the course of their existence,
Further shocked that this took place while The United Kingdom of Waningo was not even active,
The World Assembly hereby condemns The Black Riders.

Approvals: 1 (The 2nd French Empire)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

R2. Another one of those "wah they invaded my region" ones.

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Postby Ebsotz » Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:54 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Condemn Kknight

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Kknight

Proposed by: Ebsotz

Description: The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that The Chief of the General Staff of Kknight is the "Chief of Staff" for the The Black Riders, one of the most infamous raiding clans that NationStates has ever seen,

ACKNOWLEDGING that Kknight himself has raided over 500 regions in NationStates, which itself is a devious, horrendous, and a notable act,

NOTING that The Black Riders itself has been condemned by the World Assembly a variety of times, and that several staff members of the Black Riders have also been condemned,

ELECTRIFIED that The Black Riders, and Kknight, would do such a thing to the regions of NationStates, like taking away their freedoms of making a region, expressing creativity, and creating havens for victims of raiding,

HIGHLY CONCERNED about many other targets that Kknight and the Black Riders are seeking, to quench their unquenchable thirsts for terror and glory,

DETERMINED to end Kknight's reign of terror in NationStates, along with the Black Riders, and finally build the path(s) to the end of raiding once and for all,

HEREBY CONDEMNS The Chief of the General Staff of Kknight.

R4 (himself). Also, might be trying to do more than condemn (DETERMINED clause).

Whats R4?

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Postby Religionous » Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:59 pm

Ebsotz wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:R4 (himself). Also, might be trying to do more than condemn (DETERMINED clause).

Whats R4?

R4 is:
You cannot refer to NS as a game, write the proposal from the perspective of someone other than the WA, refer to the nations as the players behind them or reference RL.

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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:00 am

Religionous wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: waningo_1429828964

Condemn The Black Riders

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: The Black Riders

Proposed by: Waningo

Description: Acknowledging the Black Riders as a region which, as do all regions, possesses the right to exist,
Appalled, however, that this region invaded the International Confederation, as they have various others throughout the course of their existence,
Further shocked that this took place while The United Kingdom of Waningo was not even active,
The World Assembly hereby condemns The Black Riders.

Approvals: 1 (The 2nd French Empire)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

R2. Another one of those "wah they invaded my region" ones.

Please could you explain your reasoning for believing this is a Rule 2 violation?

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Postby Religionous » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:18 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Religionous wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: waningo_1429828964

Condemn The Black Riders

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: The Black Riders

Proposed by: Waningo

Description: Acknowledging the Black Riders as a region which, as do all regions, possesses the right to exist,
Appalled, however, that this region invaded the International Confederation, as they have various others throughout the course of their existence,
Further shocked that this took place while The United Kingdom of Waningo was not even active,
The World Assembly hereby condemns The Black Riders.

Approvals: 1 (The 2nd French Empire)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

R2. Another one of those "wah they invaded my region" ones.

Please could you explain your reasoning for believing this is a Rule 2 violation?

Rule 2b. You cannot condemn a region twice for the same action. TBR has already been condemned for raiding, and this proposal complains about their raiding, so it's illegal.

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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:54 am

It mentions a specific and new raid, which makes it okay. Yes, that means that if you really wanted to, you could Condemn TBR for each invasion they've carried out, one resolution at a time.

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Postby Religionous » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:17 am

Sedgistan wrote:It mentions a specific and new raid, which makes it okay. Yes, that means that if you really wanted to, you could Condemn TBR for each invasion they've carried out, one resolution at a time.

Strange, but OK.

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Postby Ebsotz » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:44 pm

Where are the rules? Rules 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.?

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:53 pm

Ebsotz wrote:Where are the rules? Rules 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.?

Here. In general:
R1. You can't commend or condemn the staff for being the staff.
R2 is the "content" rule, stating that you can't plagiarize, duplicate (for the same set of actions), complain about rules violations, or simply state the reverse of the resolution (in repeals).
R3: You must have an operative clause.
R4: This is a toughie, but in general:
- You can't reference RL.
- You can't refer to a nation as the player behind it - this means "he" or "she" is illegal.
- You can't call NS a game.
- Your proposal must be written from the perspective of the WA.
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
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Postby Ebsotz » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:37 pm

Frattastan wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: great_jergania_and_jonland_1346359755
Condemn TBH Commander

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: TBH Commander


Proposed by: Great Jergania and Jonland

Description: Recognizing The Most Feared Military of TBH Commander as the leader and founder of The Black Hawks, a condemned region.

Reminding That The Black Hawks are an invader region, and has invaded many regions "for fun".

Believes That The Most Feared Military of TBH Commander has leaded most of or all of what the Black Hawks have done.

Believes That The Most Feared Military of TBH Commander should take some form of punishment for his actions.

Hereby Condemns The Most Feared Military of TBH Commander.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 68 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 6 hours


Personal pronoun "his" referring to a nation. Implies TBH Commander is a person. Rule 4.

Yes, I know, this is pretty old, but how is saying the word "his" a violation? I know its R4, but is there a substitutional way of saying "his"?

Examples, please.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:39 pm

Ebsotz wrote:
Frattastan wrote:
Personal pronoun "his" referring to a nation. Implies TBH Commander is a person. Rule 4.

Yes, I know, this is pretty old, but how is saying the word "his" a violation? I know its R4, but is there a substitutional way of saying "his"?

Examples, please.

The most common substitution is "they", or simply refering to the nation/region by its full name.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:54 pm

Why was "Commend Kazmr" removed? It didn't appear to break any rules.
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
Author of GA #371 and SC #208, #214, #226, #227, #230, #232
Co-Author of SC #204
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