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Postby Aclion » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:41 am

Bears Armed Mission wrote:
Wrapper wrote:"Tag raid" has always been legal, so by extension "tags" should be legal as well. It would be legal under the legal/illegal terms rubric here:

viewtopic.php?p=3755837#terms

Really> Okay, well, you're the expert. I just couldn't see how it would be explained IC...

In WW2 when the US stampeded across occupied europe leaving Kilroys everywhere. That was a tag raid. Also a fashbash
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Postby Chimes » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:24 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1547399809

Security Council Proposal
ID: trump-pence_1547399809

Repeal: “Commend Jutsa”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#275

Proposed by: Trump-Pence

Security Council Resolution #275 “Commend Jutsa” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

With all due respect, I believe that Commending Jutsa would be a grave mistake on behalf of the World Assembly. This is because I do not believe that the World Assembly should commend/condemn nations because of the quality and quantity of the issues they write because I consider that this is a civic duty that one must encounter in NationStates and writing issues does not make one above all, it just makes one normal. I myself have written numerous issues, but I don't seek any reward for my works, it is just a duty that I see myself doing if I want to succeed in NationStates, kind of like joining the World Assembly or picking a region. Instead of focusing on the quantity and quality of issues that are apparently supposed to "help" nations (they're really just obstacles to challenge nations to pick the more rational answer and not show bias) we should commend nations for helping their fellow nations with things like forum postings and regional aid. NationStates is a game about collaborating for the greater good and trying to make sure everyone has fun and even learns something about the complex principles of government. Ergo, I hereby repeal the WA proposal to Commend Jutsa.


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Postby Chimes » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:10 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1547404300

Security Council Proposal
ID: pedigo_1547404300

Condemn The Great Red Union

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation
Nominee: The Great Red Union
Proposed by: Pedigo
Foreword

The Great Red Union, which will henceforth be called "TGRU," openly expresses and embraces the beliefs of Karl Marx and the Communist Theory. While on the surface TGRU claims to believe in equality, fairness, and a people led state, an audit on the region found this was not the case.

Recognizing

Each region reserves the right to govern their people how each sees fit.

Further recognizing it is the Security Council's duty to keep the rights, freedoms, and sovereignty of each nation, no matter how small, protected.

While it is the prerogative of each region to govern how they wish to be governed, when the voice of the people is squandered, the Security Council must step in.

Observing

A thorough audit led by a embassy region of TGRU found the leader of TGRU, Achain to be an abusive tyrant on many levels, which will be discussed later.

The audit was cut short by Achain, when the auditor, Pedigo, was banned from TGRU’s Discord Server, after finding incriminating server message history.

TGRU leader, Achain, is unable to keep personal disputes between nations from interfering with State duties.

Proving Achain is an abusive leader.

During the audit, interviews with members of TGRU were conducted. Many of those interviewed expressed concern regarding the fairness in the region.

Interviews also found those being interviewed feared the thought of Achain discovering they were being interviewed. After further questioning, the auditor discovered many feared;
Excessive punishment from Achain
Being kicked from the Server and the Region
Abusive comments made publicly by Achain

As the audit continued, the auditor found message history of abusive language and insults directed towards those who didn’t approve of the way Achain led the region.

Noting

In the short time the audit was conducted, 2 people were kicked from the Server, for either speaking with the auditor privately, or publicly “calling out” Achain on her abuse behavior.

When the auditor confronted Achain regarding her behavior, the auditor was kicked from the Server.

Concluding

The Security Council must protect the will of the people, and when an abusive leader is found, who uses his or her power to fight or suppress the people he or she may serve, it is the Security Council’s duty to intervene. A condemnation is the Security Council’s most powerful weapon, and should not be used lightly. If and when Achain changes their abusive regime, this condemnation should and must be removed. Until such a time, action must be taken.


Rule 3 - no operative clause. Rule 4b - personal pronouns - ‘she’. Possibly Rule 4a too? I’m not entirely show about the legality of mentioning Karl Marx.
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Postby Ransium » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:52 am

If the mods have already ruled something illegal please don’t report here. It’s a waste of everyone’s time.

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Postby Kuriko » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:58 am

Ransium wrote:If the mods have already ruled something illegal please don’t report here. It’s a waste of everyone’s time.

Chimes reported them before they were ruled illegal by mods, according to the legality time stamps on the proposals.....
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Postby Ransium » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:39 am

Right, AM carry on.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:24 pm

Security Council Proposal
ID: communist_royal_haven_1547925577

Condemn Imperium Anglorum

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Imperium Anglorum

Proposed by: Communist Royal Haven

DISGUSTED at the passage of the poorly-written GA#454, "Debtor Voting Rights," an embarrassment to the World Assembly and all it stands for,

DISTURBED that Imperium Anglorum has received a commendation for his lack of effort in writing proposals for the World Assembly,

BELIEVING that "Repeal: Commend Imperium Anglorum," which is at vote as of this proposal, does not go far enough in expressing the carelessness and the lack of regard Imperium Anglorum has consistently shown toward the World Assembly in all of his proposals, specifically "Debtor Voting Rights."

FURTHER BELIEVING that Imperium Anglorum must be condemned for his actions and wrongdoings committed against the nations of the World Assembly,

HEREBY CONDEMNS Imperium Anglorum.


Definitely 4(b). Possibly 4(d), doesn’t seem to be written from the point of view of the WA.
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Postby Ransium » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:53 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Security Council Proposal
ID: communist_royal_haven_1547925577

Condemn Imperium Anglorum

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Imperium Anglorum

Proposed by: Communist Royal Haven

DISGUSTED at the passage of the poorly-written GA#454, "Debtor Voting Rights," an embarrassment to the World Assembly and all it stands for,

DISTURBED that Imperium Anglorum has received a commendation for his lack of effort in writing proposals for the World Assembly,

BELIEVING that "Repeal: Commend Imperium Anglorum," which is at vote as of this proposal, does not go far enough in expressing the carelessness and the lack of regard Imperium Anglorum has consistently shown toward the World Assembly in all of his proposals, specifically "Debtor Voting Rights."

FURTHER BELIEVING that Imperium Anglorum must be condemned for his actions and wrongdoings committed against the nations of the World Assembly,

HEREBY CONDEMNS Imperium Anglorum.


Definitely 4(b). Possibly 4(d), doesn’t seem to be written from the point of view of the WA.



Hey! Glad to see you’re back BBD! I’ve marked it illegal. Please provide a link in the future though.
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Postby Wrapper » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:41 pm

I don’t see a 4(d) there, but definitely 4(b).

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:51 am

Ransium wrote:Hey! Glad to see you’re back BBD! I’ve marked it illegal. Please provide a link in the future though.


Thanks Ransium and will do.

Wrapper wrote:I don’t see a 4(d) there, but definitely 4(b).


I’m out of practice. :)
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Postby Kuriko » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:13 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1549291318

Commend Jocospor
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee: Jocospor

Proposed by: Hallor

This Council,

Recognizing that Jocospor has provided a safe haven for nations wishing to govern their nations in an authoritarian or corrupt fashion or who wish to rule in such an atmosphere in the form of Confederation of Corrupt Dictators,

Understanding that Jocospor has devoted an almost unspeakable amount of time to the close management and creation of it's region, creating a rich and detailed lore for the nations of Confederation of Corrupt Dictators to interact with,

Citing the many works Jocospor has done for this Council as well as the World Assembly, including writing or helping to write multiple resolutions,

commends Jocospor for his services.

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Postby Kuriko » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:42 pm

Even though they're neither gonna reach quorum....

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1549322599

Condemn Hallor
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Hallor

Proposed by: The New North

This Council,

Understands that the nation of Hallor is attempting to cause trouble between the two regions of Confederation of Corrupt Dictators and Europe by writing inflammatory proposals which are intended to provoke a conflict or dispute between the respective regions,

Believes that Hallor is therefore due to its actions a nation that merely wishes to spread or create conflict among regions and nations, which are at this moment the aforementioned regions,

Citing the two proposals that Hallor has already written, concerning a repeal of Security Council Resolution #263, and another: Condemn Europe, both of which are clearly only meant to attract attention to and reignite the past conflicts between the aforementioned regions: Confederation of Corrupt Dictators and Europe,

Highlighting these actions and statements,

The Security Council Condemns Hallor.

Clear tit-for-tat.
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Postby Maowi » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:25 am

Condemn Maowi
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Maowi

Proposed by: Dogity

This is a proposal to condemn maowi, and any hippie nation in general. There are three reasons for this: 1. Hippies are dumb. 2. Their hippie proposals infringe on other nations' rights. 3. They wish to destroy everything non-hippie. So, with that being said...... F**** HIPPIES!

Approvals: 0

Status: LEGAL
Status: Lacking Support (requires 78 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 10 hours


https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=dogity_1549648841
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Postby Wrapper » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:06 pm

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