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[Joke/Non-Pursuit] Condemn Winner12345

Postby Bergnovinaia » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:21 am

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Condemn Winner12345

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Winner12345 | Proposed by: Bergnovinaia

Description: The Security Council of the World Assembly:

DISGUSTED by the mien of the ambassador that Winner12345 has sent to the World Assembly;

HIGHLIGHTING that ignorance of WA standard protocols, rude behavior, and a pompous attitude are just some of the ambassador's flaws;

NOTING that the ambassador has proposed multiple gun law proposals, switching political opinions by flip-flopping in an attempt to find support for the poorly written and despised proposals;

UNDERSTANDING that the ambassador, at the discretion of the nation of Winner12345, willingly made a wager with the distinguished members of this assembly that the nation would resign from WA affairs forever and always should the submitted gun proposal fail to achieve quorum;

APPALLED that the ambassador and the nation of Winner12345 have purposefully not honored the terms of this agreement, but on the contrary the nation has become the WA delegate for the region of Great White Brotherhood and the ambassador has continued to submit proposals of extreme poor quality, including an attempt to repeal SC Resolution #1, simply on the fact the region is proud of being condemned first;

BELIEVING that the actions by both the ambassador and nation of Winner12345 are not the actions that the WA are reputable for;

CONVINCED that an SC condemnation is the only course of action that will send a message to the ambassador, nation, and the world that this appalling behavior is not welcomed in this distinguished assembly,

Hereby condemns the nation of Winner12345.


Sources:

Repeal SC #1
Reducement of Gun Laws
Gun Law Relaxation Act
Gun Law Relaxation Act v. 1 (Wager takes place here)
Extraterestial Defense Act




Thoughts? I am sure many people support the idea, but the proposal needs some revision. ;)
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Postby Premislyd » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:24 am

So condemning a nation just b/c of how they conduct themselves here?
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Postby Wu Wei Shan » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:26 am

If the accusations are true, I'm on board.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:26 am

I somewhat support this, although I also think it's a bit petty. In addition, the language in the "NOTING" clause is rather confusing. I struck out the bits I find strange.


Bergnovinaia wrote:
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Condemn Winner12345

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Winner12345 | Proposed by: Bergnovinaia

Description: The Security Council of the World Assembly:

DISGUSTED by the mien of the ambassador that Winner12345 has sent to the World Assembly;

HIGHLIGHTING that ignorance of WA standard protocols, rude behavior, and a pompous attitude are just some of the ambassador's flaws;

NOTING that the ambassador that Winner12345 has submitted to the World Assembly has proposed multiple gun law proposals, switching political opinions by flip-flopping in an attempt to find support for the poorly written and despised proposals;

UNDERSTANDING that the ambassador, at the discretion of the nation of Winner12345, willingly made a wager with the distinguished members of this assembly that the nation would resign from WA affairs forever and always should the submitted gun proposal fail to achieve quorum;

APPALLED that the ambassador and the nation of Winner12345 have purposefully not honored the terms of this agreement, but on the contrary the nation has become the WA delegate for the region of Great White Brotherhood and the ambassador has continued to submit proposals of extreme poor quality, including an attempt to repeal SC Resolution #1, simply on the fact the region is proud of being condemned first;

BELIEVING that the actions by both the ambassador and nation of Winner12345 are not the actions that the WA are reputable for;

CONVINCED that an SC condemnation is the only course of action that will send a message to the ambassador, nation, and the world that this appalling behavior is not welcomed in this distinguished assembly,

Hereby condemns the nation of Winner12345.




Thoughts? I am sure many people support the idea, but the proposal needs some revision. ;)
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Postby Vaval » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:26 am

Wow just thought the writers of these things were smart.
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Postby Ossitania » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:27 am

He doesn't deserve the attention. I've taken to just ignoring him.
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Postby Interstellar Space Corps » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:30 am

While he has done these things, he hasn't done anything to directly deserve a Condemnation. Such an act requires the nation to perform actions on an even further international scale, not just in the Security Office.
Wow...look at me, critiquing a proposal when every one of my proposals fails. :palm: What the hell am I doing...
I support the fact you don't like what this person is doing. I do not support this condemnation. Other action must be taken.
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Postby Bergnovinaia » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:31 am

Vaval wrote:Wow just thought the writers of these things were smart.


They are. I have received a commendation for my GA work, including several GA resolutions on the books. So, don't make half-ass statements where they are not needed. Thanks.
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Postby Bergnovinaia » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:31 am

Wu Wei Shan wrote:If the accusations are true, I'm on board.


They are.
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Postby Bergnovinaia » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:32 am

Ossitania wrote:He doesn't deserve the attention. I've taken to just ignoring him.


I think the condemnation may possibly get him to resign from the assembly... that, or send the right message that is effective.
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Postby Ruski Federation » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:50 am

I'm all for condemning him.
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Postby The Scarlet Death » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:59 am

Bergnovinaia wrote:
Ossitania wrote:He doesn't deserve the attention. I've taken to just ignoring him.


I think the condemnation may possibly get him to resign from the assembly... that, or send the right message that is effective.
Yes. Let's give him a cool badge that encourages him to continue acting as he has been. Obviously this will prompt an improvement in his behavior.

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Postby Bergnovinaia » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:03 pm

The Scarlet Death wrote:
Bergnovinaia wrote:
I think the condemnation may possibly get him to resign from the assembly... that, or send the right message that is effective.
Yes. Let's give him a cool badge that encourages him to continue acting as he has been. Obviously this will prompt an improvement in his behavior.

Strongly against.


That's just where you are wrong. No course of action has seemed to fail, so this course of action should be proper. At least it will signal to people not affiliated with him that this is not somebody to mess with... blacklisting, so to say.
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Postby SunRawr » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:03 pm

He's still very new and hasn't exactly done much to warrant making him a permanent part of NationStates history. His annoying streak will most likely end as soon as he stops getting attention for it.

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Postby Bergnovinaia » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:05 pm

SunRawr wrote:He's still very new and hasn't exactly done much to warrant making him a permanent part of NationStates history. His annoying streak will most likely end as soon as he stops getting attention for it.


That has already occurred, several times, along with moderation intervention, and nothing has changed.
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Postby SunRawr » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:09 pm

Bergnovinaia wrote:
SunRawr wrote:He's still very new and hasn't exactly done much to warrant making him a permanent part of NationStates history. His annoying streak will most likely end as soon as he stops getting attention for it.


That has already occurred, several times, along with moderation intervention, and nothing has changed.

No it hasn't.. I may not speak in the GA, but I do pay attention to some topics. Every thread this guy makes gets a lot of attention from people putting him down.

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Postby The Scarlet Death » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:10 pm

Bergnovinaia wrote:
SunRawr wrote:He's still very new and hasn't exactly done much to warrant making him a permanent part of NationStates history. His annoying streak will most likely end as soon as he stops getting attention for it.


That has already occurred, several times, along with moderation intervention, and nothing has changed.

Some people take longer than others: let's not condemn every n00b who joins the game and takes a bit longer to fit in than everyone else, especially considering that he'll probably CTE in a year or so.

Condemnations should be for people who have made a genuinely large impact on the game.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:12 pm

If you submit this, you have my approval for it. Simple as, it's both brilliant and necessary.

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Postby Jamie Anumia » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:33 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:If you submit this, you have my approval for it. Simple as, it's both brilliant and necessary.

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Why is it necessary?
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:36 pm

Bergnovinaia wrote:That's just where you are wrong. No course of action has seemed to fail, so this course of action should be proper. At least it will signal to people not affiliated with him that this is not somebody to mess with... blacklisting, so to say.

My guess is that if he continues with his present behavior, people will figure out fairly quickly not to have anything to do with him. Besides, condemnations rarely have the desired effect you've mentioned. And their effect will be even less significant if they are tossed around for cavalier reasons.

Opposed.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:39 pm

Premislyd wrote:So condemning a nation just b/c of how they conduct themselves here?

Isn't that what condemnations are for?
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:40 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:
Bergnovinaia wrote:That's just where you are wrong. No course of action has seemed to fail, so this course of action should be proper. At least it will signal to people not affiliated with him that this is not somebody to mess with... blacklisting, so to say.

My guess is that if he continues with his present behavior, people will figure out fairly quickly not to have anything to do with him. Besides, condemnations rarely have the desired effect you've mentioned. And their effect will be even less significant if they are tossed around for cavalier reasons.

Opposed.


But my God, it'll be satisfying if it passes.


Jamie Anumia wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:If you submit this, you have my approval for it. Simple as, it's both brilliant and necessary.

FOR!

Why is it necessary?


It isn't really, but it might, I hope, keep him quiet.
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Postby Jamie Anumia » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:43 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Cormac Stark wrote:My guess is that if he continues with his present behavior, people will figure out fairly quickly not to have anything to do with him. Besides, condemnations rarely have the desired effect you've mentioned. And their effect will be even less significant if they are tossed around for cavalier reasons.

Opposed.


But my God, it'll be satisfying if it passes.


Jamie Anumia wrote:Why is it necessary?


It isn't really, but it might, I hope, keep him quiet.

Do you honestly think it will though? This proposal has no way to be enforced after all.

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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:45 pm

Jamie Anumia wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
But my God, it'll be satisfying if it passes.




It isn't really, but it might, I hope, keep him quiet.

Do you honestly think it will though? This proposal has no way to be enforced after all.


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