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CONDEMN The Orson Empire

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Great Kingdom of Calomo
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Postby Great Kingdom of Calomo » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:43 am

Drop Your Pants wrote:Not a bad draft for a first.

NOTING that Oson Empire is killing civilians in attempt to restore power in the Jovian Islands.

Who's civilians? :P Adding a "their" could help.
CONVINCED that in order to liberate mankind from such an odious scourge that is needed is international cooperation,

There's something about that sentence that doesn't work but can't put my finger on it.
RECALLING that the international protection should be of concern to all members of the WA.

Where do you recall that from? My nation doesn't give a toss what happens to others.
WITH HOPE that WA members to give sufficient importance to this proposal.

Lose the "to". In fact, lose the whole line. Its a bit out of place.

I know this is a RP proposal but it lacks the deepness needed to get past the usual SC crowd.


Noting that Oson Empire is killed Jovian Islands's civilians.
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Postby Mercurea » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:06 am

Mercurea will support the condemnation.

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Postby New Carloso » Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:06 pm

Carloso supports this condemnation.
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Postby Sassinia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:36 am

Yes, Yes, YESERY!!!
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Postby The Great Destruction » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:02 pm

Bah,

Calomo, All you are doing is discrediting yourself.

Another trumped up SC proposal by a Nation looking to add an Sc badge to its page. Calomo is far to young to understand the gravity a condemnation weilds. There is no proof of anything very severe. The acusations are misplaced. Calomo, just like a few other fledgling nations at the moment, are just trying to snarf a proposal through. The majority of support this proposal is getting comes from other fledgling nations inexperienced in the workings of the SC.

This Proposal only exists because this nation is trying to get itself Commended in the near future. Check out this thread here and also here

I am keeping track of idiotic nations and campaigning against their proposals from here on out no matter their legitimacy and I am becoming very good at it. However I would rather not have to in this case since this proposal should not reach quorum.

Please, don't support this proposal.
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Postby Sassinia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:03 pm

The Great Destruction wrote:Bah,

Calomo, All you are doing is discrediting yourself.

Another trumped up SC proposal by a Nation looking to add an Sc badge to its page. Calomo is far to young to understand the gravity a condemnation weilds. There is no proof of anything very severe. The acusations are misplaced. Calomo, just like a few other fledgling nations at the moment, are just trying to snarf a proposal through. The majority of support this proposal is getting comes from other fledgling nations inexperienced in the workings of the SC.

This Proposal only exists because this nation is trying to get itself Commended in the near future. Check out this thread here

I am keeping track of idiotic nations and campaigning against their proposals from here on out no matter their legitimacy and I am becoming very good at it. However I would rather not have to in this case since this proposal should not reach quorum.

Please, don't support this proposal.

Bah, my nation is older than you, and I support it.
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..and no, we aren't Muslims, either.
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Postby The Great Destruction » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:08 pm

You don't nessasarily have to fall into the young catagory. You might be inexperienced as well.



And you can't support the proposal as you are not a delegate.
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Postby The Realm of God » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:15 pm

The Realm of God is slightly irritatated that you have not followed proper World Assembly protocol, contained within the Security Council Guide. Thus we withhold judgement on this situation untill protocols are met.

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Postby Great Kingdom of Calomo » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:19 pm

The Realm of God wrote:The Realm of God is slightly irritatated that you have not followed proper World Assembly protocol, contained within the Security Council Guide. Thus we withhold judgement on this situation untill protocols are met.

Yours Faithfully, Realm of God Consulate of The Realm of God Diplomatic Mission to the World Assembly (ROGDMWA)


Thanks for giving your opinion.
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Postby Irentian » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:21 pm

It's strange how the only people who vote to get rid of Orson Empire are worse them him. In fact, nearly all of you have attacked or invaded Orson in the past. Due to knowing what half of the nations here have done. I myself is going to say, this is a waste of time that only benefits the enemies of Orson who have done worse.
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Postby Everbeek » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:20 pm

Irentian wrote:It's strange how the only people who vote to get rid of Orson Empire are worse them him.

Condemning him won't get rid of him. It will only give him a shiny badge that he doesn't really deserve yet.
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Postby The Great Destruction » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:22 pm

Really Calomo, Really?

Re-proposing practically the same exact proposal when you failed to reach quourm is just spam in my mind

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Postby Euroslavia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:30 pm

The Great Destruction wrote:Really Calomo, Really?

Re-proposing practically the same exact proposal when you failed to reach quourm is just spam in my mind

It's not spam.
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Postby Weed » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:32 pm

The Great Destruction wrote:Really Calomo, Really?

Re-proposing practically the same exact proposal when you failed to reach quourm is just spam in my mind

A proposal which fails to meet quorum could very easily meet quorum if resubmitted. Meeting quorum has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the proposal, it is about how much work the author puts into a campaign. A very good proposal will fail every time without a campaign, and the worst proposals will make quorum easily if a good campaign is launched.
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Postby The Great Destruction » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:34 pm

No changes were made. It was not adapted to fit the will of the people, or anything like that. Will we have to see this proposal come back again and again until we get tired of it and pass it?

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Postby Weed » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:37 pm

The Great Destruction wrote:No changes were made. It was not adapted to fit the will of the people, or anything like that. Will we have to see this proposal come back again and again until we get tired of it and pass it?

No changes are needed, this could very easily make quorum.
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Postby Euroslavia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:02 pm

The Great Destruction wrote:No changes were made. It was not adapted to fit the will of the people, or anything like that. Will we have to see this proposal come back again and again until we get tired of it and pass it?

Then campaign against it if you believe it shouldn't reach quorum. It's sure starting to seem like you have some sort of vendetta against it.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:13 pm

The Great Destruction wrote:Really Calomo, Really?

Re-proposing practically the same exact proposal when you failed to reach quourm is just spam in my mind

I can't believe this. It already failed. I wish he would stop. Please nobody approve this

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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:16 pm

Everbeek wrote:
Irentian wrote:It's strange how the only people who vote to get rid of Orson Empire are worse them him.

Condemning him won't get rid of him. It will only give him a shiny badge that he doesn't really deserve yet.

It really doesn't do much anyway, but make my nation stand out more.

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Postby The Great Destruction » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:44 am

Euroslavia wrote:
The Great Destruction wrote:No changes were made. It was not adapted to fit the will of the people, or anything like that. Will we have to see this proposal come back again and again until we get tired of it and pass it?

Then campaign against it if you believe it shouldn't reach quorum. It's sure starting to seem like you have some sort of vendetta against it.



I take Vendetta against anything that looks like a shadey attempt to pass legislation simply to have a badge that says one was passed. Calomo had two proposals in the works and a third commending Calomo all at the same time. I have taken it upon myself to try to prevent phony legislation from succeeding as all good civic minded WA members should. If a condemnation or commendation were to be proposed I beleive it should be done by one nation who was influenced or affected by said nominee or a witness to the actionable circumstances. Not a nation that goes out looking for something to commend/condmen. Further more, I beleive Liberations, and their repeals should not be considered for support of votes unless called by one of the (possibly former) nations of that region.

I am trying to change the mentality of how nations view the SC. There are still many who think it a joke or unnessasry, or even unproductive. If I can get even a few nations to take as much pride in the SC as nations do in the GA then I will consider my attept successful but for the moment I must play defense.

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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:32 am

Plus, a nice ol' counter-campaign is always fun to get attention on the SC. ;)
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Postby Great Kingdom of Calomo » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:39 am

The Great Destruction wrote:
Euroslavia wrote:Then campaign against it if you believe it shouldn't reach quorum. It's sure starting to seem like you have some sort of vendetta against it.



I take Vendetta against anything that looks like a shadey attempt to pass legislation simply to have a badge that says one was passed. Calomo had two proposals in the works and a third commending Calomo all at the same time. I have taken it upon myself to try to prevent phony legislation from succeeding as all good civic minded WA members should. If a condemnation or commendation were to be proposed I beleive it should be done by one nation who was influenced or affected by said nominee or a witness to the actionable circumstances. Not a nation that goes out looking for something to commend/condmen. Further more, I beleive Liberations, and their repeals should not be considered for support of votes unless called by one of the (possibly former) nations of that region.

I am trying to change the mentality of how nations view the SC. There are still many who think it a joke or unnessasry, or even unproductive. If I can get even a few nations to take as much pride in the SC as nations do in the GA then I will consider my attept successful but for the moment I must play defense.


I did not proposed the "commend myself".- Secondly, this proposal was submitted by my brother, without my approval. And lastly, I DO NOT WANT A BADGE. THE LAST PROPOSAL WAS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THE GENOCIDE MUST BE CONDEMNED!
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Postby A Million Voices » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:27 am

I really don't like the idea of condemning a nation for their RP offenses.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:47 am

A Million Voices wrote:I really don't like the idea of condemning a nation for their RP offenses.

Given that NationStates activity runs about 50/50 between RP and Gameplay, it would be pretty unfair to exclude eligible nations just because you don't share their interests. Feel free to ignore the debates and even skip voting, but don't vote Against simply because you don't like RP reasons.

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Postby Wu Wei Shan » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:37 pm

The Great Destruction wrote:
I take Vendetta against anything that looks like a shadey attempt to pass legislation simply to have a badge that says one was passed. Calomo had two proposals in the works and a third commending Calomo all at the same time. I have taken it upon myself to try to prevent phony legislation from succeeding as all good civic minded WA members should. If a condemnation or commendation were to be proposed I beleive it should be done by one nation who was influenced or affected by said nominee or a witness to the actionable circumstances. Not a nation that goes out looking for something to commend/condmen. Further more, I beleive Liberations, and their repeals should not be considered for support of votes unless called by one of the (possibly former) nations of that region.


I am trying to change the mentality of how nations view the SC. There are still many who think it a joke or unnessasry, or even unproductive. If I can get even a few nations to take as much pride in the SC as nations do in the GA then I will consider my attept successful but for the moment I must play defense.



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