CONDEMN The Orson Empire

[Sedikal]

Before the start of the ''Orson Conflict'' I had no military contacts with the JUNP organization. The attack on the communist HQ was ordered because my intelligence service ''SS-SD'' received intel. that foreign powers were arming and funding Jorvian radicals to attack the JUNP and eliminate all ''fascist'' in the country. I acted to secure their funds and obtain evidence to prove their treason to the Jovian government.

But still the party was under your influence and all you had when that they where armed? My party was armed too. You reacted with aggression and it lead to the death of noncombatants. And you also reacted with out the consent of the government. And if you did you didnt announce it to the rest of us.

[Sedikal]

Why? Is it because he's not in the WA?

You misunderstood. I won't accept his proposal. I agree with what you said.

Sorry my bad.

[Premislyd]

This is pretty derp, tbph

[Greater Belkan Reich]

I agree that that i acted aggressivly however, The communist firing the first shot, by attacking a JUNP rally. Those civilians were treated as potenial hostiles do to the fact that we SAW the communist recieve 500 submachine guns and had HEARD them order an assault on JUNP. We were unaware of how many armed personnel were in the building and my SS-SD personnel acted to preserve their own lives and secure the objectives.

[Great Kingdom of Calomo]

This is pretty derp, tbph

What do you mean?

[Sedgistan]

Great Kingdom of Calomo, please edit your OP to include the text of the proposal for easy reference.

[Great Kingdom of Calomo]

Great Kingdom of Calomo, please edit your OP to include the text of the proposal for easy reference.

Yes Sir. Done.

[Premislyd]

This is pretty derp, tbph

What do you mean?

Lacking good evidence (poorly done RPing that lacking some things). Proposal needs more stuff added to it.

[Great Kingdom of Calomo]

What do you mean?

Lacking good evidence (poorly done RPing that lacking some things). Proposal needs more stuff added to it.

Thank you for your opinion.

[Greater Belkan Reich]

If anyone was to blame for the start of the conflict it should be The Communist Dictatorship of Tabaros. It had set the ball in motion to start the Orson Conflict. The first shots fired were on orders of the Tabarosian Dictator.

[Sedikal]

I agree that that i acted aggressivly however, The communist firing the first shot, by attacking a JUNP rally. Those civilians were treated as potenial hostiles do to the fact that we SAW the communist recieve 500 submachine guns and had HEARD them order an assault on JUNP. We were unaware of how many armed personnel were in the building and my SS-SD personnel acted to preserve their own lives and secure the objectives.

I'm wondering why did you target them? My political party had weapons as well and worked with Grand Soviet Unions party as we have close diplomatic ties and knew for a fact that those wepeons were not ment for use against the populace, the men that fired the shots were acting alone and in no way recived orders from the party.

[Greater Belkan Reich]

the SS-SD operatives were to simply steal the money and information and leave. however a communist working with the The Communist Dictatorship of Tabaros opened fire on my men with a SMG. Which started the fire fight. I believe those men did recieve orders from the party and are directly responsable for the likes of 7 SS-SD operatives.

[Sedikal]

the SS-SD operatives were to simply steal the money and information and leave. however a communist working with the The Communist Dictatorship of Tabaros opened fire on my men with a SMG. Which started the fire fight. I believe those men did recieve orders from the party and are directly responsable for the likes of 7 SS-SD operatives.

Do you have prove beyond a reasonable doubt. I know for a fact that the communist would not act with aggression.

[Greater Belkan Reich]

IC: Now that the members of the communist party were armed and wearing bulletproof vest the Tabarosian Military left the boats and packed into the helicopters. The money was put in the back of the party leader's car and driven to the Party HQ where it was then offloaded. The party members all got in speedboats provided by the Tabarosian military and begun speeding towards Europa ready to wage war on the JUNP.

There is your proof.

[Sedikal]

IC: Now that the members of the communist party were armed and wearing bulletproof vest the Tabarosian Military left the boats and packed into the helicopters. The money was put in the back of the party leader's car and driven to the Party HQ where it was then offloaded. The party members all got in speedboats provided by the Tabarosian military and begun speeding towards Europa ready to wage war on the JUNP.

There is your proof.

Still doesn't prove that they were ordered to do so by the leadership of the party.

[Greater Belkan Reich]

After the formation of the Jovian Ultra-Nationalist Party The Tabarosian Communist Party of The Jovian Islands recieved a letter from John Q. Rail the leader of Tabaros itself. The letter read

Dear Jidesse I. Queen
It has come to my knowledge that The Greater Belkan Reich has formed there own political party on the Jovian Islands. No doubt this is in response to our forming of our own political party there. No doubt they will cheat and falsify documents and run filthy smear campaigns against us and our great communist lifestyle. Well I'm sending 1 Billion dollars and 500 Storm hammer sub machine guns to the Jovian Islands for you and the rest of the party to put to use eliminate these fascists dogs from the Jovian Islands.

Sincerely
John Q. Rail

A Few days passed and the weapons arrived by speed boat and helicopters in the middle of the night. Jidesse came to the docks herself with a old fashion Tabarosian handgun in her shoulderstrap and a tabarosian bulletproof vest on. She watched over the delivery with delight as the money shipment was being unloaded and the weapons being handed out to members of the Tabarosian Communist Party of the Jovian Islands by members of the Tabarosian military. Jidesse sighed and said "I hope this stupid soldiers don't attract too much attention with there helicopters it's a bit unnecessary."

It is clear here that the Tabarosian government ordered the attacks and that they are in charge of the communist party. they clearly order the attacks. They state that the 1 Billion Dollars and 500 Storm hammer Machines guns are for ''you and the reast of the party to put to use. Eliminate these fascists dogs from the jovian islands.

[Sedikal]

After the formation of the Jovian Ultra-Nationalist Party The Tabarosian Communist Party of The Jovian Islands recieved a letter from John Q. Rail the leader of Tabaros itself. The letter read

Dear Jidesse I. Queen
It has come to my knowledge that The Greater Belkan Reich has formed there own political party on the Jovian Islands. No doubt this is in response to our forming of our own political party there. No doubt they will cheat and falsify documents and run filthy smear campaigns against us and our great communist lifestyle. Well I'm sending 1 Billion dollars and 500 Storm hammer sub machine guns to the Jovian Islands for you and the rest of the party to put to use eliminate these fascists dogs from the Jovian Islands.

Sincerely
John Q. Rail

A Few days passed and the weapons arrived by speed boat and helicopters in the middle of the night. Jidesse came to the docks herself with a old fashion Tabarosian handgun in her shoulderstrap and a tabarosian bulletproof vest on. She watched over the delivery with delight as the money shipment was being unloaded and the weapons being handed out to members of the Tabarosian Communist Party of the Jovian Islands by members of the Tabarosian military. Jidesse sighed and said "I hope this stupid soldiers don't attract too much attention with there helicopters it's a bit unnecessary."

It is clear here that the Tabarosian government ordered the attacks and that they are in charge of the communist party. they clearly order the attacks. They state that the 1 Billion Dollars and 500 Storm hammer Machines guns are for ''you and the reast of the party to put to use. Eliminate these fascists dogs from the jovian islands.

Then this should have been a local government issue not an issue for your puppet party's vigilantly style of "justice"

[Greater Belkan Reich]

justice was a secondary goal. the SS-SD team was ordered to steal the money.

[Sedikal]

justice was a secondary goal. the SS-SD team was ordered to steal the money.

Why the money?

[Greater Belkan Reich]

the lost of funding would have crippled the communist party far better than any assassination would have, in addition it would have helped the Belkan Economy. Also it would have been addition proof of foreign attempts to influence the election.

[Sedikal]

the lost of funding would have crippled the communist party far better than any assassination would have, in addition it would have helped the Belkan Economy. Also it would have been addition proof of foreign attempts to influence the election.

So you attacked a people that should have been the governments problem started a war and tryed to Allie yourself with ORSAN and it was for money? Oh and you say they are trying to rig it but yet you just said that you did why you did to "cripple" the communist part. So as I see it you were trying to rig it.

[Demphor]

For, genocide it a horrid thing and must be dealt with immediately.

[Nua Corda]

The People's Republic of New Corda approves of this motion, though we find the RPing aspect to be somewhat lacking in quality, the basic proposal is an excellent solution to a severe problem. Indeed, our government would have assisted the civilian population or taken action against the aggressors if we were not afraid that the resulting RP would be far to heavy on facepalm and gramatic frustration related casualties in our upper management.

-Rick Pikey, Foreign Affairs Secretary and WA Delegate for New Corda

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

This is a trumped-up condemnation for killing civilians? That's the only argument I see in the entirety of this proposal, while the rest is all fluff and no substance. You could condemn half of NS for such poor reasoning. And, as Bergnovinaia pointed out, proposals that are submitted without being seen here first have to be very good to get my approval-this one, however, is not. I stand AGAINST the proposal and will be voting as such should it reach quorum.

[Drop Your Pants]

Not a bad draft for a first.

NOTING that Oson Empire is killing civilians in attempt to restore power in the Jovian Islands.

Who's civilians? Adding a "their" could help.

CONVINCED that in order to liberate mankind from such an odious scourge that is needed is international cooperation,

There's something about that sentence that doesn't work but can't put my finger on it.

RECALLING that the international protection should be of concern to all members of the WA.

Where do you recall that from? My nation doesn't give a toss what happens to others.

WITH HOPE that WA members to give sufficient importance to this proposal.

Lose the "to". In fact, lose the whole line. Its a bit out of place.

I know this is a RP proposal but it lacks the deepness needed to get past the usual SC crowd.