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(DRAFT) The Black Riders Condemnation

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Ulthern
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(DRAFT) The Black Riders Condemnation

Postby Ulthern » Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:45 pm

The Security Council;

RECOGNIZING The Black Riders is a very threatening raider region which is continually growing in numbers

ACKKNOWLEDGING that The Black Riders have raided peaceloving regions including but not limited to,
Catholic
Stargate
Middle Earth
Western Europe
Lost
Kyros
Islam
Pacific
Deutschland
Belgium
Charon


FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGING That The Black Riders was refounded in 2011 and since has raided innocent regions which wish to be left alone,

NOTING The Black Riders has raided dozens of regions since its refounding,

DISTURBED by the manner in which The Black Riders treats the natives of the regions it invades,

WORRIED that if not stopped they will continue harming neutral regions,

ANGERED that after they raid regions 70% do not regain their former population number(?)

ASTONISHED how they have helped The Black Hawks, and The New Inquisition in many of their raids,

HEREBY CONDEMNS The Black Riders.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:10 pm

Appears to be condemning an organization, not a nation or a region. No operative clause. Possibly other problems that SC regulars can identify.

Needs a redraft.

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Postby Ulthern » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:12 pm

ah sorry this is my first time ive tried anything in Sc Any help would be appreciated on this


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Postby Feuer Ritter » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:22 pm

TBR raided 106 regions until now

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Postby Drop Your Pants » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:23 am

Claim to have raided 106 regions until now :P
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Postby Campinia » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:27 am

Condemning a region you are a part of yourself? And trying to hide that by using a puppet? :roll:
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:47 am

No operative clause, so the proposal is illegal as of yet. On another note, you are just silly if you actually think a condemnation will "stop" TBR.

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Postby Alvenrder » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:09 pm

Campinia wrote:Condemning a region you are a part of yourself? And trying to hide that by using a puppet? :roll:

No if i wanted to hide it i'd take off fry.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:27 pm

The Security Council;

RECOGNIZING The Black Riders is a very threatening raider organization which is continually growing in numbers

ACKKNOWLEDGING that The Black Riders have raided peaceloving regions including but not limited to,
Catholic
Stargate
Middle Earth
Western Europe
Lost
Kyros
Islam
Pacific
Deutschland
Belgium
Charon


FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGING That The Black Riders was refounded in 2011 and since has raided innocent regions which wish to be left alone,

NOTING The Black Riders has raided dozens of regions since its refounding,

DISTURBED by the manner in which The Black Riders treats the natives of the regions it invades,

WORRIED that if not stopped they will continue harming neutral regions,

ANGERED that after they raid regions 70% do not regain their former population number(?)

ASTONISHED how they have helped The Black Hawks, and The New Inquisition in many of their raids,

HEREBY CONDEMNS The Black Riders.

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A lot of it depends on whether you wish to refer to the Black Riders in the singular or the plural (yes, I know, there are inconsistencies in my amended version, but I lost the will to carry on), but that's most of it made at least grammatically correct and pretty much legal.
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Postby Alvenrder » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:11 pm

Maybe we could write it together?
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Postby Socialist Ecuador » Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:22 pm

It still refers to us as an org. The first line should be something like:


RECOGNIZING The Black Riders as the home region of a notorious raider military.
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Postby Alvenrder » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:58 pm

The Security Council;

RECOGNIZING The Black Riders is a very threatening raider region which is continually growing in numbers

ACKKNOWLEDGING that The Black Riders have raided peaceloving regions including but not limited to,
Catholic
Stargate
Middle Earth
Western Europe
Lost
Kyros
Islam
Pacific
Deutschland
Belgium
Charon


FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGING That The Black Riders was refounded in 2011 and since has raided innocent regions which wish to be left alone,

NOTING The Black Riders has raided dozens of regions since its refounding,

DISTURBED by the manner in which The Black Riders treats the natives of the regions it invades,

WORRIED that if not stopped they will continue harming neutral regions,

ANGERED that after they raid regions 70% do not regain their former population number(?)

ASTONISHED how they have helped The Black Hawks, and The New Inquisition in many of their raids,

HEREBY CONDEMNS The Black Riders.

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Postby The Bruce » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:21 pm

While you could condemn them for spam raiding on tiny, inactive regions, I'm pretty certain that short of forum destroying or any other specific heinous act that it's really no longer appropriate to condemn any one invader region.

Until they prove themselves capable of invading a region all by themselves (one with actual active players in it), instead of participating in the invader collage raids that have become the norm, no single invader group deserves special mention, one way or the other. The way raiding has degenerated into 1-3 nations per group attacking in a cluster of 5-10 invader groups, literally taking turns on whose flag is on top of the page, singling out one group is without any meaning.

I'm not even certain when the last time an invader group carried out a raid of any significance without needing the support of 5-10 other invader groups, but it was a long time ago.

Condemnations like this are the equivalent of singling out someone with a speeding ticket for being solely responsible for society becoming lawless.

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Postby Ballotonia » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:03 am

FYI, it is customary to edit the initial post to have the latest draft version. That way people will know what to comment on.

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Ulthern
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Postby Ulthern » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:35 am

done.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:45 pm

Even with my pro-Raider, and being a TBR member.... bias of sorts

I'm against this. It's condemning essentially... for raiding and partaking in raider unity... It needs some more details...

Imagine a Cake.

This proposal is your plain cake with white icing.
What it needs to be is a giant, 5-story, explosive, rainbow, chocolatey, awesome, deliciousness....
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:23 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:Even with my pro-Raider, and being a TBR member.... bias of sorts

I'm against this. It's condemning essentially... for raiding and partaking in raider unity... It needs some more details...

Imagine a Cake.

This proposal is your plain cake with white icing.
What it needs to be is a giant, 5-story, explosive, rainbow, chocolatey, awesome, deliciousness....


And it still has to be a lie.

Against.

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Postby Campinia » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:39 am

I propose you remove Belgium from that list (since you really weren't the lead org in that raid), maybe replace it by Futurama?
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Postby Alvenrder » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:37 pm

Campinia was that supposed to be irony there? and besides im not going to try and pass this waste of wa, just to show one that condems us can actually be semi good
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:32 pm

Campinia wrote:I propose you remove Belgium from that list (since you really weren't the lead org in that raid), maybe replace it by Futurama?


I was pointman for Futurama :P
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Postby Frattastan » Tue May 01, 2012 10:53 am

Self-condemnations = not cool. :roll:
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue May 01, 2012 11:43 am

Isn't there a card for it? Someone go find it :P
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Postby Alvenrder » Tue May 01, 2012 1:27 pm

Im not going to ive said that. But Tim shuddup before i hate ya more!
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue May 01, 2012 4:37 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:Isn't there a card for it? Someone go find it :P


Oh. You mean this card :P

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