[Draft]Condemn North America

[Frenseo]

Description: The termination of a Region that is slowly going under water
Recognizing that: The region is based on democracy
Applauding that: The region is still going .
Highlighting that: The founder is inactive and the delegate is non-executive
Showing: The region is becoming a burden to all active nations in the region
Asking: That you condemn this region before someones active nation is locked out without warning because a invader takes over.
The active nations deserve better.
Written by. Frenseo Delegate for North America

[Frenseo]

I need to polish the proposal up before I submit it

[Flemingovia]

I think it needs more than a polish up. There is not enough substance here.

You feel your founder is "inactive" - but he is alive, and last logged in 25 days ago. If he dies, refound. The SC cannot "put a player out their misery." I am afraid that founders own the region. North America is still large in NS terms, in the top 150 regions by size. It seems no more inactive than many other regions in NS.

You also seem to overestimate the power of the SC. All we are allowed do is criticise and hand out medals. Our power is purely symbolic. A condemnation cannot "terminate" a region. all it can do is express disapproval.

Also, your proposal refers to "players". That is a big no no. The great bird of mod will fly over and poo on your head if you continue with that one.

[Frenseo]

The founder did not log in 25 days ago. And the point is that this will be better for the region.

[Mahaj]

Greetings,

I would not try and refound your region. Your region is an ancient and historical defender region. To refound it would rid it of its history. Try recruiting for your region to build it up.

[Parti Ouvrier]

I think it needs more than a polish up. There is not enough substance here.

You feel your founder is "inactive" - but he is alive, and last logged in 25 days ago. If he dies, refound. The SC cannot "put a player out their misery." I am afraid that founders own the region. North America is still large in NS terms, in the top 150 regions by size. It seems no more inactive than many other regions in NS.

You also seem to overestimate the power of the SC. All we are allowed do is criticise and hand out medals. Our power is purely symbolic. A condemnation cannot "terminate" a region. all it can do is express disapproval.

Also, your proposal refers to "players". That is a big no no. The great bird of mod will fly over and poo on your head if you continue with that one.

This^

[Flemingovia]

This thread is marked "submitted" but i do not see it in the queue.

For your own sake I would seriously not submit this without a lot more work - if indeed it ever ought to be submitted. You will be jumped on from a great height if you submit this.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

The argument here is that the SC should condemn the region to prevent it from being raided....? That won't work.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

You aren't under the impression that a condemn resolution actually does anything, are you? It's not like condemning a building for safety hazards or anything like that. All it does is put this badge at the top of the region, and nothing else. It is "A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region."

[Tim-Opolis]

Tim looked upon the proposal

Lolwut...

Condemn to prevent from being raided?

Maybe he means liberate.... And even then... AGAINST

It's fun to raid regions

[Welsh Cowboy]

This delegation does not see this condemnation as a worthwhile proposal. It cannot do anything to terminate the region.

We also do not think the region should be terminated. We suggest that the writer of this resolution post on the RMB to take a vote on whether to refound or otherwise change the structure. If the founder is inactive, then you might consider refounding.

However, do not waste the Security Council's time with this resolution.

Delegation to the WA,
Welsh Cowboy

[Allied States of Demokratia]

This delegation does not see this condemnation as a worthwhile proposal. It cannot do anything to terminate the region.

We also do not think the region should be terminated. We suggest that the writer of this resolution post on the RMB to take a vote on whether to refound or otherwise change the structure. If the founder is inactive, then you might consider refounding.

However, do not waste the Security Council's time with this resolution.

Delegation to the WA,
Welsh Cowboy

The Federal Republic of the Allied States of Demokratia thank the Welsh Cowboy for summing our delegations view as well.
We feel that this resolution has no purpose in the hallowed halls of the Security Council.
We do not believe that this Draft should make it to the floor, and will encourage other nations to vote it down in the unlikely event that it does.
Foreign Minister Viktor Nikinor,
Federal Repulic of the Allied States of Demokratia

[Welsh Cowboy]

This delegation does not see this condemnation as a worthwhile proposal. It cannot do anything to terminate the region.

We also do not think the region should be terminated. We suggest that the writer of this resolution post on the RMB to take a vote on whether to refound or otherwise change the structure. If the founder is inactive, then you might consider refounding.

However, do not waste the Security Council's time with this resolution.

Delegation to the WA,
Welsh Cowboy

The Federal Republic of the Allied States of Demokratia thank the Welsh Cowboy for summing our delegations view as well.
We feel that this resolution has no purpose in the hallowed halls of the Security Council.
We do not believe that this Draft should make it to the floor, and will encourage other nations to vote it down in the unlikely event that it does.
Foreign Minister Viktor Nikinor,
Federal Repulic of the Allied States of Demokratia

We are glad that others share our views. Thank you for the compliments.

Delegation to the WA,
Republic of Welsh Cowboy

[A mean old man]

Why on earth would you condemn a region to help its members and punish its founder?
EDIT: Wouldn't you just condemn the founder?
Don't condemn someone for being inactive. That's stupid. We might as well condemn the game itself.

[Welsh Cowboy]

Why on earth would you condemn a region to help its members and punish its founder?
EDIT: Wouldn't you just condemn the founder?
Don't condemn someone for being inactive. That's stupid. We might as well condemn the game itself.

We agree entirely with Your Excellency's assessment. Many nations are inactive. In our own region, four or five nations are ejected for inactivity daily.

[Crazy girl]

I'm not sure where to begin, except maybe by suggesting you read the stickies in this forum first..

[Frenseo]

I will read the stickies

[Fortschrittlich]

Although this is a real and acurate flaw of NationStates itself, it is not an issue of the World Aseembly's Security Council. Unfortunately we cannot formally suggest alterations to the community itself.

[Drop Your Pants]

Greetings,

I would not try and refound your region. Your region is an ancient and historical defender region. To refound it would rid it of its history. Try recruiting for your region to build it up.

How does refounding wipe history???

[Mahaj]

Greetings,

I would not try and refound your region. Your region is an ancient and historical defender region. To refound it would rid it of its history. Try recruiting for your region to build it up.

How does refounding wipe history???

It wipes the in game history.

[TAO the Wanderer]

The History of the region could easily be copy/pasted into a refounded WFE ...

However, as one who is the (game) business of convincing (deadwood) regions to refound or CTE with dignity, there is no justifiable reason for the region to refound. You have a living (even if comatose) founder and more than a handful of active nations. Your region is far from dead. And you always have the option of creating your own rival region. I am a firm believer in the adage "If you don't like where you are being led, take the lead!" but this proposal isn't a step onto a progressive path; it sounds more like whining.

A leadership role you might consider is this ... negotiate with your founder to give the founder nation over to your control (and you better hurry before someone else does first. )

[Floisa]

Condemning a region to prevent invasion won't work. If anything, it will only put the region in the spotlight and encourage invaders to take the codemntion as a trophy.

[Ballotonia]

A leadership role you might consider is this ... negotiate with your founder to give the founder nation over to your control (and you better hurry before someone else does first. )

The Founder of North America is Caffeinneburg, a main nation with 19.5 billion population. Top 50, quite the history in NS for that nation. I sincerely doubt that nation would be handed over to anyone else. Well, could've been handed to Brians Room actually, but that nation seems to have CTE'd back in 2009.

Ballotonia

[Al Amarja]

Speaking as another ancient North American nation (9 years and counting!) all I can tell is that Caffeinneburg is still active, and will post if anything interesting comes up. Same with me.

[TAO the Wanderer]

@ Ballotonia ... my point exactly. The founder may be absentee but he is far from CTEd. And the region isn't inactive.