Human Rights Enforcement

[Balaerica]

I have noticed a disturbing trend in the world assembly; and it ought to be the security council's responsibility to take care of it.

That is that the WA is totally ignoring the internal affairs of various nations. All current security council resolutions are related to raiding, account jacking, and forum destruction; external crimes.

Shouldn't the Security Council also step in to put a stop to human rights abuse? There are some nations that have gained a tremendous amount of prestige in the international community over their WA activity, yet who enact extremely abusive policies against their citizens.

Am I the only one who thinks that's wrong?

[Paper Flowers]

The most that the SC could do is to either condemn nations who enact "extremely abusive" policies, or to withhold commendations where they are suggested for other actions (I assume that the above ambassador is posting this in response to the likely passing of AMOMs commendation.) I would suggest that either action is unlikely to have a massive impact on the internal policies of a nation however.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

There is a sizable segment of the Nationstates population that ignores the issue-answering, nation governing side of the game altogether, and treats each nation simply as a player. Regional and inter-regional activities are what concern us, and the politics of your nation is about as important as your favorite color or food, when it comes to commending or condemning you.

That is that the WA is totally ignoring the internal affairs of various nations. All current security council resolutions are related to raiding, account jacking, and forum destruction; external crimes.

Also, that statement isn't quite true. See condemnations of The Kraven Corporation, Greater Tezdrian, and Omigodtheykilledkenny for a few examples.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Shouldn't the Security Council also step in to put a stop to human rights abuse?

If you feel the need to write up such a condemnation, go for it.

The SC is mostly used to commend/condemn OOC events rather than things pertaining to issue answering. It would also be really, really impractical to condemn every nation who isn't an "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy" or some other "good" form of government.

[Cinistra]

I have noticed a disturbing trend in the world assembly; and it ought to be the security council's responsibility to take care of it.

That is that the WA is totally ignoring the internal affairs of various nations. All current security council resolutions are related to raiding, account jacking, and forum destruction; external crimes.

Shouldn't the Security Council also step in to put a stop to human rights abuse? There are some nations that have gained a tremendous amount of prestige in the international community over their WA activity, yet who enact extremely abusive policies against their citizens.

Am I the only one who thinks that's wrong?

You're joking, right ?

[Dizyntk]

"You mean to tell me that you think the SC actually does anything? Well, anything that really matters to anyone outside the SC?"

[Balaerica]

I am not speakIng about non-members, but WA members should have to meet certain standards within a certain amount of time. The UN was created with the goal of preventing holocausts, an internal event. Shouldn't the WA follow a similar pattern of core values?

I'm just testing the waters here to get opinions. Maybe delegates at the least ought to meet certain standards?

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

I am not speakIng about non-members, but WA members should have to meet certain standards within a certain amount of time. The UN was created with the goal of preventing holocausts, an internal event. Shouldn't the WA follow a similar pattern of core values?

I'm just testing the waters here to get opinions. Maybe delegates at the least ought to meet certain standards?

My standards for whether a proposal gets my approval are this

• Does the writer have a legitimate claim (region-griefing, being mean/inactive/evil do not count)?
• Has the selected recipient (object of the commendation/condemnation) done terrible, international things on multiple occasions?
• Is the commend/condemn based on only on RP posts/acts?

Depending on the answer to those, I make my decision on whether or not I will approve a proposal.

[Metania]

I am not speakIng about non-members, but WA members should have to meet certain standards within a certain amount of time. The UN was created with the goal of preventing holocausts, an internal event. Shouldn't the WA follow a similar pattern of core values?

I'm just testing the waters here to get opinions. Maybe delegates at the least ought to meet certain standards?

No, because that would be trying to change the rules of the game itself, which we're not allowed to do.

[Tim-Opolis]

I have noticed a disturbing trend in the world assembly; and it ought to be the security council's responsibility to take care of it.

That is that the WA is totally ignoring the internal affairs of various nations. All current security council resolutions are related to raiding, account jacking, and forum destruction; external crimes.

Shouldn't the Security Council also step in to put a stop to human rights abuse? There are some nations that have gained a tremendous amount of prestige in the international community over their WA activity, yet who enact extremely abusive policies against their citizens.

Am I the only one who thinks that's wrong?

What are you smoking?

Ambassador Tim shook his head

This little child needs to learn that The SC is made to give shiny badges to people; not to actually do anything meaningful...

[The Greater Aryan Race]

So what? You're going to condemn EVERY Fascist and Communist and evil Totalitarian Dictatorship nation?

[Cinistra]

So what? You're going to condemn EVERY Fascist and Communist and evil Totalitarian Dictatorship nation?

No, only those nations who are in the WA, ensuring that entire regions goes free, as well as 90% of the totalitarian nations in this game.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

So nations not in the WA won't be canned?

[Sleepyyawn]

I don't think so. The WA doesn't have power over people outside of their memberbase, I believe.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

But seriously, that is an infringement on a nation's sovereignity. Forcing everyone to conform to the same human rights is just fantastical, a daydream.

[Metania]

It's a pipe dream to think of condemning thousands and thousands of nations anyway.

[Crazy girl]

I'm in the WA. Start writing.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

I don't think so. The WA doesn't have power over people outside of their memberbase, I believe.

That's true for the GA, but not the SC.

[Yammata]

It is my own business how I treat my Citizens.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

It is my own business how I treat my Citizens.

Irrelevant, but for what it's worth, very few actually care how you treat your citizens, so it's unlikely that you'll be condemned for it.

[Matts Empire]

Well I think that you do have a point however, what about people who are not WA members? The resolution will only stop WA members but people who are not its not going to stop them. Besides Its the way of history so there isn't anything we can do about it.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

Well I think that you do have a point however, what about people who are not WA members? The resolution will only stop WA members but people who are not its not going to stop them. Besides Its the way of history so there isn't anything we can do about it.

I'm not certain I'm interpreting you correctly, but the Security Council can target any nation with Commend and Condemn resolutions, regardless of WA status. Regardless, most nations, WA or non-WA, will not be targeted for how they treat their citizens, unless perhaps they have a particularly pervasive reputation in II, and someone in the RP community nominated them based on that. (I know zilch about RP, so apologies if I'm using the wrong terminology, or am just dead wrong.)

[Halastan]

The security council can not do anything about what we decide to do to are people and if you really would like to start giving out condemnations for that. you could start with are nation I will even list every thing we have done so far

1. All politcal parties other than the ruling party have been banned anyone who was part of the other parties was arrested tortured and reeducated then released.
2. We have conducted Bio weapon and chemical weapon tests on small villages in the mountains of are country.
3. We have had mass public shootings of any protest conducted by anyone any protester that was left alive after was arrested and then executed
4. We have has Mercenary groups travel across borders and attack small towns killing the inhabitants and destoying property
5. We have sold numerous weapons to different terroist groups to use on other nations we deem a liability to our nation
6. We have tortured mostly all prisoners in our prisions.
7. We have public beatings conducted by are police force to ensure submission by are people.
8. The police have the right to raid any house and arrest whoever they want and take them to be questioned at the questionings they are tortured and beaten.
9. Halastan has an udesirably minority that has been causing problems they live in the southern half of the country we have sent the military there and put martial law into affect we have snipers on the roofs of buildings anyone seen out after curfew is shot. Mass executins occur daliy we intend to pacify the region by the end of the year.
10. We have government sponsored terrorism were we stage terroist incidents that cause mass causilties to are citizens and then are propaganda agency fabricates a story that shows the goverment taking out the terrorists and makes the people believe the government is there only savior
11. religion is banned in are country everyone must turn to the government for everything even faith.
12. all religious groups have been dealt with and any one caught practicing any other religion than the governemt religion is excuted.

If you want start condmeing nations I suggest you find more like are's because there are plenty of them out there.

-Halastans Ambassador

[Tim-Opolis]

I'm in the WA. Start writing.

Tim runs off to draft Condemn Crazy Girl

[Canadaiana]

"You mean to tell me that you think the SC actually does anything? Well, anything that really matters to anyone outside the SC?"

It can kick the door open to all regions, outside of the WA or not.