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Tim-Opolis
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:57 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Why?

Cause he's dirty raider scum still, right? :lol:


No. I'm a clean defender saint...

But I still have some raider tendencies... Being Anti-Liberation is one of them.
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Postby Frattastan » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:19 pm

There are anti-Liberation defenders too, actually :P
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:32 pm

Frattastan wrote:There are anti-Liberation defenders too, actually :P


Meh... stop ruining the moment :P
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:45 am

Cinistra wrote:Thought that liberations removed pw's? Can't see any. This thread is wasted.

They also prevent passwords, preemptively, and there's precedent for their use in this way. This thread isn't wasted.
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Postby Cinistra » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:56 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Cinistra wrote:Thought that liberations removed pw's? Can't see any. This thread is wasted.

They also prevent passwords, preemptively, and there's precedent for their use in this way. This thread isn't wasted.

A precedent. Yes, that word solves it, doesn't it. Anarchy is a unique situation, and there is no need for a "precedent".
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>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.
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Postby Beskie » Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:55 pm

Against.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:23 pm

Beskie wrote:Against.

Why? Reasons would be nice :P
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Postby Louisiana Territory » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:44 pm

YoriZ wrote:This resolution forbids any future attemts to password Anarchy.



We oppose this as including the above statement as an appendix to the original draught (I am sure all WA member are aware of the consequences of a successful Liberation resolution) suggests that the author would seek to make a successful resolution on this matter immune from future repeal - this would constitute a super-stare decisis precedent, which is not appropriate for the security council to adopt
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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:21 pm

That part would only stand so long as the resolution was in place. If it was repealed, it wouldn't. I don't see it as an attempt to declare a repeal illegal.
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Postby Mahaj » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:03 pm

Louisiana Territory wrote:
YoriZ wrote:This resolution forbids any future attemts to password Anarchy.



We oppose this as including the above statement as an appendix to the original draught (I am sure all WA member are aware of the consequences of a successful Liberation resolution) suggests that the author would seek to make a successful resolution on this matter immune from future repeal - this would constitute a super-stare decisis precedent, which is not appropriate for the security council to adopt

No wonder. You're a raider.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations
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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:00 pm

Louisiana Territory was raising a genuine point about something that s/he believed could've made the proposal illegal. The childish retort was unnecessary.
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Postby Cinistra » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:44 am

Mahaj wrote:
Louisiana Territory wrote:

We oppose this as including the above statement as an appendix to the original draught (I am sure all WA member are aware of the consequences of a successful Liberation resolution) suggests that the author would seek to make a successful resolution on this matter immune from future repeal - this would constitute a super-stare decisis precedent, which is not appropriate for the security council to adopt

No wonder. You're a raider.

When not able to take the ball, take the player.
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:30 am

Cinistra wrote:
Mahaj wrote:No wonder. You're a raider.

When not able to take the ball, take the player.

No, I actually didn't understand what was being said. Then I read it again. Heh.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations
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Louisiana Territory
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Postby Louisiana Territory » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:07 pm

The prospect of having a Liberation resolution permanently placed on any region would surely be contrary to the natives right to self-determination
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Postby Cinistra » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:56 pm

The previous WA delegate is back in power again. So no need for this resolution after all. Can close this thread now.
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.
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Postby Unibot II » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:22 pm

Louisiana Territory wrote:The prospect of having a Liberation resolution permanently placed on any region would surely be contrary to the natives right to self-determination


A native wrote the proposal...
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Postby Cinistra » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:51 am

Unibot II wrote:
Louisiana Territory wrote:The prospect of having a Liberation resolution permanently placed on any region would surely be contrary to the natives right to self-determination


A native wrote the proposal...

Does not make it valid nonetheless.
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.
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