So which side according to them deserves a condemnation?
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by Outer Sparta » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:19 pm
by WayNeacTia » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:27 pm
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by United England n Wales » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:36 pm
by United England n Wales » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:39 pm
by WayNeacTia » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:42 pm
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by United England n Wales » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:50 pm
Wayneactia wrote:United England n Wales wrote:No one, this has dragged on way too long.
Really? No one deserves a condemnation? Also let me give you a pointer. You see that edit button at the top of a post after you made it? How about you try using it, instead of double and triple posting mmmkay? You already saw Sedge have a word with Leo about a few pages back.
by Outer Sparta » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:32 pm
United England n Wales wrote:Wayneactia wrote:Really? No one deserves a condemnation? Also let me give you a pointer. You see that edit button at the top of a post after you made it? How about you try using it, instead of double and triple posting mmmkay? You already saw Sedge have a word with Leo about a few pages back.
I have had time to reflect on what has been said and a condemnation is not warrented.
Er no Sedge told him off for quad posting, which was triple.
I will try to avoid that.
by Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:42 pm
United Nations organisation wrote:Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:I see this has been submitted. Well it’s not very well written, zero research on reasons why anyone should support it and should disappear without trace in a few days.
Yes, it will get the usual rubber stampers approving it, but let’s face it they wouldn’t know a good (or legal) proposal if it got up and bit them.
Quality doesn't matters, the result does
The Security Council proposal "Liberate LASAGNA PART TWO" [United Nations organisation] failed to achieve quorum.
Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.
RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.
Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..
by United England n Wales » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:14 am
Outer Sparta wrote:United England n Wales wrote:I have had time to reflect on what has been said and a condemnation is not warrented.
Er no Sedge told him off for quad posting, which was triple.
I will try to avoid that.
Please specify who deserves a condemnation in your earlier post Wayneactia pointed out.
by Mathuvan Union » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:28 am
by Sedgistan » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:27 am
Team Leo wrote:Alright we know. Just shut your mouth please
by Mathuvan Union » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:30 am
Sedgistan wrote:Team Leo wrote:Alright we know. Just shut your mouth please
This is the second thread you've made a similar comment in. Rather than running around after your Old Zealand friends joining in the low-grade harassment of Bhang Bhang Duc and Wayneactia like a second-rate cheerleader, try putting some effort into your contributions, and then people might be inclined to listen to you. And if you don't have anything meaningful to post, then don't post.
If you keep this current behaviour up, you will be picking up warnings too.
by United England n Wales » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:56 am
Sedgistan wrote:Team Leo wrote:Alright we know. Just shut your mouth please
This is the second thread you've made a similar comment in. Rather than running around after your Old Zealand friends joining in the low-grade harassment of Bhang Bhang Duc and Wayneactia like a second-rate cheerleader, try putting some effort into your contributions, and then people might be inclined to listen to you. And if you don't have anything meaningful to post, then don't post.
If you keep this current behaviour up, you will be picking up warnings too.
Mathuvan Union wrote:Sedgistan wrote:This is the second thread you've made a similar comment in. Rather than running around after your Old Zealand friends joining in the low-grade harassment of Bhang Bhang Duc and Wayneactia like a second-rate cheerleader, try putting some effort into your contributions, and then people might be inclined to listen to you. And if you don't have anything meaningful to post, then don't post.
If you keep this current behaviour up, you will be picking up warnings too.
What, so we are all in Old Zealand harassing BBH? I don’t think so. I haven’t harassed Bhang Bhang Duc. Dare I say that comment is a bit rude, considering the calling of Team Leo being a second rate cheerleader
by Team Leo » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:09 am
Sedgistan wrote:Team Leo wrote:Alright we know. Just shut your mouth please
This is the second thread you've made a similar comment in. Rather than running around after your Old Zealand friends joining in the low-grade harassment of Bhang Bhang Duc and Wayneactia like a second-rate cheerleader, try putting some effort into your contributions, and then people might be inclined to listen to you. And if you don't have anything meaningful to post, then don't post.
If you keep this current behaviour up, you will be picking up warnings too.
by Team Leo » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:12 am
Sedgistan wrote:Team Leo wrote:Alright we know. Just shut your mouth please
This is the second thread you've made a similar comment in. Rather than running around after your Old Zealand friends joining in the low-grade harassment of Bhang Bhang Duc and Wayneactia like a second-rate cheerleader, try putting some effort into your contributions, and then people might be inclined to listen to you. And if you don't have anything meaningful to post, then don't post.
If you keep this current behaviour up, you will be picking up warnings too.
by Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:04 am
Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.
RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.
Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..
by United England n Wales » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:10 am
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:The three of you are unbelievable. You just received some friendly advice from a Moderator about your behaviour in this forum and yet you continue to argue.
Time to pull your heads in.
by Team Leo » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:25 am
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:The three of you are unbelievable. You just received some friendly advice from a Moderator about your behaviour in this forum and yet you continue to argue.
Time to pull your heads in.
by Mathuvan Union » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:05 am
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:The three of you are unbelievable. You just received some friendly advice from a Moderator about your behaviour in this forum and yet you continue to argue.
Time to pull your heads in.
Team Leo wrote:Sedgistan wrote:This is the second thread you've made a similar comment in. Rather than running around after your Old Zealand friends joining in the low-grade harassment of Bhang Bhang Duc and Wayneactia like a second-rate cheerleader, try putting some effort into your contributions, and then people might be inclined to listen to you. And if you don't have anything meaningful to post, then don't post.
If you keep this current behaviour up, you will be picking up warnings too.
Wow so the game looks like it is engineered against us now... lol
by Numero Capitan » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:51 am
by United England n Wales » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:09 am
Numero Capitan wrote:I'm not sure I'm the best one to comment on this, but this has been an exceptionally bad example of lobbying for support in the Security Council.
This point seems to escape old players and new - if you want to pass a resolution you need to both be the perfect diplomat and make a compelling and coherent case within the text of your resolution itself. You need to take criticism on the chin and consider whether there are well justified reasons for standing your ground, or whether you should cede territory and revise your proposal accordingly. You need to be polite and good natured (even likeable) in your discussions with people - because logic, reason and justice don't win Security Council votes, the popular vote does.
Many authors forget that the majority of the 26,000 WA members and delegates will not necessarily read things in the same way as their circle of players. Some authors seem to lose sense entirely of the fact that you have to win people round to the arguments you are proposing - no matter what.
The attitude of those who presumably want/wanted this to pass in this thread seems to have doomed this proposals from the start. I would usually be sympathetic to Liberation proposals but a quick read through the discussion brought an instant 'nope' from me. I would recommend labelling this thread as [Abandoned] and only coming back to it with a new draft if you really still care about this in a few months time.
by Outer Sparta » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:13 am
United England n Wales wrote:Numero Capitan wrote:I'm not sure I'm the best one to comment on this, but this has been an exceptionally bad example of lobbying for support in the Security Council.
This point seems to escape old players and new - if you want to pass a resolution you need to both be the perfect diplomat and make a compelling and coherent case within the text of your resolution itself. You need to take criticism on the chin and consider whether there are well justified reasons for standing your ground, or whether you should cede territory and revise your proposal accordingly. You need to be polite and good natured (even likeable) in your discussions with people - because logic, reason and justice don't win Security Council votes, the popular vote does.
Many authors forget that the majority of the 26,000 WA members and delegates will not necessarily read things in the same way as their circle of players. Some authors seem to lose sense entirely of the fact that you have to win people round to the arguments you are proposing - no matter what.
The attitude of those who presumably want/wanted this to pass in this thread seems to have doomed this proposals from the start. I would usually be sympathetic to Liberation proposals but a quick read through the discussion brought an instant 'nope' from me. I would recommend labelling this thread as [Abandoned] and only coming back to it with a new draft if you really still care about this in a few months time.
Tbh both sides are to blame by not keeping a cool head.
I think it is unfair to say the we had doomed it from the start.
However I and I hope others will take you comments on board.
It has turned in to total anarchy.
by LollerLand » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:33 am
The people whom you and your buddies got mad at for critiquing your poorly written proposal has nothing to lose if this proposal doesn't reach anywhere. If you really want this proposal to pass, the onus is on you to convince people of its merit and win them over to your side. And you definitely won't be able to win over people here in the SC by harassing highly experienced players like BBD and spamming. I would recommend that you scrap this proposal entirely and if you really want to give it a second go, read through past proposals that have passed along with their drafting threads so that you can get a better understanding of the kind of language that is to be used and the etiquette that are generally followed in SC.United England n Wales wrote:Numero Capitan wrote:I'm not sure I'm the best one to comment on this, but this has been an exceptionally bad example of lobbying for support in the Security Council.
This point seems to escape old players and new - if you want to pass a resolution you need to both be the perfect diplomat and make a compelling and coherent case within the text of your resolution itself. You need to take criticism on the chin and consider whether there are well justified reasons for standing your ground, or whether you should cede territory and revise your proposal accordingly. You need to be polite and good natured (even likeable) in your discussions with people - because logic, reason and justice don't win Security Council votes, the popular vote does.
Many authors forget that the majority of the 26,000 WA members and delegates will not necessarily read things in the same way as their circle of players. Some authors seem to lose sense entirely of the fact that you have to win people round to the arguments you are proposing - no matter what.
The attitude of those who presumably want/wanted this to pass in this thread seems to have doomed this proposals from the start. I would usually be sympathetic to Liberation proposals but a quick read through the discussion brought an instant 'nope' from me. I would recommend labelling this thread as [Abandoned] and only coming back to it with a new draft if you really still care about this in a few months time.
Tbh both sides are to blame by not keeping a cool head.
I think it is unfair to say the we had doomed it from the start.
However I and I hope others will take you comments on board.
It has turned in to total anarchy.
by United England n Wales » Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:04 pm
Outer Sparta wrote:United England n Wales wrote:Tbh both sides are to blame by not keeping a cool head.
I think it is unfair to say the we had doomed it from the start.
However I and I hope others will take you comments on board.
It has turned in to total anarchy.
The earlier yelling didn't really help nor was the not taking advice from the others like Way and BBD.
LollerLand wrote:The people whom you and your buddies got mad at for critiquing your poorly written proposal has nothing to lose if this proposal doesn't reach anywhere. If you really want this proposal to pass, the onus is on you to convince people of its merit and win them over to your side. And you definitely won't be able to win over people here in the SC by harassing highly experienced players like BBD and spamming. I would recommend that you scrap this proposal entirely and if you really want to give it a second go, read through past proposals that have passed along with their drafting threads so that you can get a better understanding of the kind of language that is to be used and the etiquette that are generally followed in SC.United England n Wales wrote:Tbh both sides are to blame by not keeping a cool head.
I think it is unfair to say the we had doomed it from the start.
However I and I hope others will take you comments on board.
It has turned in to total anarchy.
Also to you and your friends from Old Zealand, kindly stop double posting. Use the edit button instead.
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