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West Ladynia
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Postby West Ladynia » Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:18 pm

The delegates for Lone Wolves United and Carcassonne have voted FOR. It is clear who this resolution serves - not natives or defenders. Vote AGAINST.

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Chef Big Dog
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Tyranny by Majority

Postby Chef Big Dog » Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:38 pm

West Ladynia wrote:The delegates for Lone Wolves United and Carcassonne have voted FOR. It is clear who this resolution serves - not natives or defenders. Vote AGAINST.

This resolution is authored by a defender.
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Rhaza
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Postby Rhaza » Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:54 pm

Chef Big Dog wrote:
West Ladynia wrote:The delegates for Lone Wolves United and Carcassonne have voted FOR. It is clear who this resolution serves - not natives or defenders. Vote AGAINST.

This resolution is authored by a defender.

Astute observation, Tom. You'll notice defenders are voting against it now, though...

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Chef Big Dog
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Postby Chef Big Dog » Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:45 pm

Rhaza wrote:
Chef Big Dog wrote:This resolution is authored by a defender.

Astute observation, Tom. You'll notice defenders are voting against it now, though...

A shocking display of defender disunity.
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Angeloid Astraea
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Angeloid Astraea » Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:58 pm

Rhaza wrote:
Chef Big Dog wrote:This resolution is authored by a defender.

Astute observation, Tom. You'll notice defenders are voting against it now, though...

Defenders clearly hate Makasta. Raiders should poach him right now. =[
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The Ice States
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Postby The Ice States » Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:59 pm

I'm not very active in the SC anymore, but why was this submitted without native support?
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Postby Rosartemis » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:01 pm

The Ice States wrote:I'm not very active in the SC anymore, but why was this submitted without native support?

to get the big W rizz over the raider threat, why else?
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Quebecshire
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Postby Quebecshire » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:07 pm

Makasta and Kivu were both present in the discussion/channel where the flip was decided.

Angeloid Astraea wrote:
Rhaza wrote:Astute observation, Tom. You'll notice defenders are voting against it now, though...

Defenders clearly hate Makasta. Raiders should poach him right now. =[

Why? You guys love calling him shit like creepy and toxic.
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The Kharkivan Cossacks
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Postby The Kharkivan Cossacks » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:08 pm

The Ice States wrote:I'm not very active in the SC anymore, but why was this submitted without native support?

While I am not involved in any of this, I do question it. This whole event feels over dramatized, as do we really need three Security Council Resolutions for TRWW? Especially without even getting the native's in the region to support?
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The Ice States wrote:I'm not very active in the SC anymore, but why was this submitted without native support?

to get the big W rizz over the raider threat, why else?

Thats another way to put it.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:25 pm

Rhaza wrote:
Chef Big Dog wrote:This resolution is authored by a defender.

Astute observation, Tom. You'll notice defenders are voting against it now, though...


Campaigning against a proposal they authored and campaigned to vote, when the situation on the region remains unchanged, is latest link in a growing chain of self-owns by the Defender faction on this op. I think I rank this one as bigger than not flipping the original lib repeal vote, but definitely still not as big as failing to pile it in the first place despite native begging and open threats to raid it.

Beautiful!

Will we be repealing both of these per native wishes if LWU leaves? If we can pass six resolutions over this region, it'll constitute more than 1% of all SC resolutions!!
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Angeloid Astraea
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:27 pm

Quebecshire wrote:
Angeloid Astraea wrote:Defenders clearly hate Makasta. Raiders should poach him right now. =[

Why? You guys love calling him shit like creepy and toxic.


I've never called him creepy or toxic, and I've never heard him called either of those things in the conversations I've been a part of in the raider community. The only things that could be seen as complaints about him that I've heard are that he dominates the conversation in VCs and that he's relentless in the NS Cards space. So I don't know what you're talking about, and I'd appreciate if you didn't lump me in with whoever it is you have logs of saying that, because I know I'm certainty not in them. Thank you.
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Reventus Koth
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Postby Reventus Koth » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:37 pm

The bar is so low for defender accountability that I honestly think a simple "sorry" would suffice at this point.
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Waaaar
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Postby Waaaar » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:07 pm

The Ice States wrote:I'm not very active in the SC anymore, but why was this submitted without native support?


tell me has any politician in this game or in real life ever asked for native permission for anything.

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Books Rule Supreme
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Postby Books Rule Supreme » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:43 pm

I've given a lot of thought to this proposal over the last day. Ultimately, my mind has rested on it being necessary for the Realm despite the major setbacks that it will bring. Begrudgingly, this proposal has my support.

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Reventus Koth
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Postby Reventus Koth » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:48 pm

Books Rule Supreme wrote:I've given a lot of thought to this proposal over the last day. Ultimately, my mind has rested on it being necessary for the Realm despite the major setbacks that it will bring. Begrudgingly, this proposal has my support.

...really bro
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Xanthal wrote:Only raiders can win in this war- a defender can keep them from winning one region, one update at a time, but there will always be the next region, the next update, and the next, forever.

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Angeloid Astraea
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:58 pm

Books Rule Supreme wrote:I've given a lot of thought to this proposal over the last day. Ultimately, my mind has rested on it being necessary for the Realm despite the major setbacks that it will bring. Begrudgingly, this proposal has my support.

This was an elaborate April Fool's Prank, wasn't it? D=
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Postby 0cala » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:58 pm

Support.

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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:07 pm

This whole situation is a complete mess-up by defenders, to be fair.
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West Ladynia
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Postby West Ladynia » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:17 pm

I'm new here, but the impression I get is that Defenders do not exist as an organised military body capable of matching raiders, despite having the support of many highly populated regions with engaged players. And I cannot understand why.

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Postby Sporaltryus » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:24 pm

West Ladynia wrote:I'm new here, but the impression I get is that Defenders do not exist as an organised military body capable of matching raiders, despite having the support of many highly populated regions with engaged players. And I cannot understand why.

Raiders don't exist as an organized military body either, both sides are comprised of various militaries of various regions working in (relative) sync with each other. Your mileage may vary.
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West Ladynia
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Postby West Ladynia » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:39 pm

Oh, I know, but what I mean is that only three Raider orgs (LWU, TWP, Carcassonne) have deployed over a hundred people to the region, and there are many other large raider orgs. Meanwhile, Defenders have deployed slightly more than that but over a much longer period of time, and many of those deployed were puppets of the same person (otherwise they could deploy more together), despite the attention of every Defender org likely being on this.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:35 pm

West Ladynia wrote:Oh, I know, but what I mean is that only three Raider orgs (LWU, TWP, Carcassonne) have deployed over a hundred people to the region, and there are many other large raider orgs. Meanwhile, Defenders have deployed slightly more than that but over a much longer period of time, and many of those deployed were puppets of the same person (otherwise they could deploy more together), despite the attention of every Defender org likely being on this.

Defenders dropped the ball when the liberation was going to get repealed and they swooped in and took over. Now Makasta, who proclaims to be a defender, is actively supporting an injunction which would work in the raiders' interests.
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Postby Hyperwolf » Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:01 am

The Kharkivan Cossacks wrote:While I am not involved in any of this, I do question it. This whole event feels over dramatized, as do we really need three Security Council Resolutions for TRWW? Especially without even getting the native's in the region to support?

Yes, for every future region that gets raided, there needs to be at least 4 SC resolutions regarding it.
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Postby Camtropia » Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:32 am

I'm so confused. What would this injunction even do? With the governor gone, and clearly never coming back to appoint a successor, the region is essentially already a frontier, in every way except new nations can't spawn there. But apparently this motion helps free the region from the raiders occupying it somehow?

But now the raiders are supporting the motion? And the legitimate rulers, such as Xvraks, DON'T want the motion to pass?

Can someone (who isn't a member of LWU) please explain what this injunction would actually mean for Realm of the Whispering Winds. I basically just want to vote for whatever will free the residents of this region from the raiders.
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Rosartemis
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Postby Rosartemis » Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:43 am

Camtropia wrote:I'm so confused. What would this injunction even do? With the governor gone, and clearly never coming back to appoint a successor, the region is essentially already a frontier, in every way except new nations can't spawn there. But apparently this motion helps free the region from the raiders occupying it somehow?

But now the raiders are supporting the motion? And the legitimate rulers, such as Xvraks, DON'T want the motion to pass?

Can someone (who isn't a member of LWU) please explain what this injunction would actually mean for Realm of the Whispering Winds. I basically just want to vote for whatever will free the residents of this region from the raiders.

As someone who is not LWU, vote for the resolution to help both defenders and raiders trample on native sovereignty, it is the way everyone agrees with, so it must be right.
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