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Postby Tinhampton » Thu May 19, 2022 12:31 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:I’m sure the lack of your support Tin would have been utterly devastating to the OP.

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Postby WayNeacTia » Thu May 19, 2022 2:37 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:I’m sure the lack of your support Tin would have been utterly devastating to the OP.

Only because she couldn't snipe the badge....
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Postby Sicias » Fri May 20, 2022 7:56 am

Does someone want to tell me why the International Community let The Black Hawks Lead the invasion. A condemned region known for raiding regions for the fun of it. If this truly was an Invasion for the good of the International Community, No one should have let the black hawks Participate.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri May 20, 2022 8:05 am

Sicias wrote:Does someone want to tell me why the International Community let The Black Hawks Lead the invasion. A condemned region known for raiding regions for the fun of it. If this truly was an Invasion for the good of the International Community, No one should have let the black hawks Participate.

I think that if the Black Hawks are raiding Layem they won't have time to raid truly innocent regions, so it's a win-win ;)
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Postby Miravana » Fri May 20, 2022 9:42 am

Sicias wrote:Does someone want to tell me why the International Community let The Black Hawks Lead the invasion. A condemned region known for raiding regions for the fun of it. If this truly was an Invasion for the good of the International Community, No one should have let the black hawks Participate.

The Black Hawks have led a multitude of antifascist operations over the past year, if anything the fact that we do raid regularly helps us on these operations. I am a part of the antifa organizing team and so that is why I am the point on this operation. I enjoy destroying fash regions even more than a normal raid, consider it a cherry on top
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Postby Xoriet » Fri May 20, 2022 9:48 am

Sicias wrote:Does someone want to tell me why the International Community let The Black Hawks Lead the invasion. A condemned region known for raiding regions for the fun of it. If this truly was an Invasion for the good of the International Community, No one should have let the black hawks Participate.

Miravana led the operation because Miravana has been actively helping Antifa for several months now and The Black Hawks started participating before that occasionally. Before that they had a policy of not working with defenders so they would only allow TBH members to be mercenaries. I don't see any issues with TBH being willing to join the effort given that they have been very helpful. Even if they were doing this on their own, it's not like defenders would liberate any fascist region they invaded as TBH alone. TBH shouldn't be blacklisted from helping fight fascists with the rest of Gameplay because they chose a raider ideology in their spare time.
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Postby Infidel State » Fri May 20, 2022 10:53 am

Dont see why we should let these raiders leave Layem to invade more democratic regions. No support.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri May 20, 2022 10:55 am

Infidel State wrote:Dont see why we should let these raiders leave Layem to invade more democratic regions. No support.

You have absolutely no idea how this works, do you.
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Postby Waterfall State » Fri May 20, 2022 6:06 pm

Have made some more minor edits and an extra line for conclusion based on some comments offsite, will be submitting this one for voting
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Postby Quebecshire » Fri May 20, 2022 6:11 pm

Just me, but the wording of the clause about the occupation should distinguish that the 109 were only the initial jumpers, since it makes it sound like that was the totality of the operation.

Edit: Not a huge deal, since I just realized you meant you were submitting now.
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Postby Fachumonn » Fri May 20, 2022 7:01 pm

This has been approved.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri May 20, 2022 8:23 pm

Will support it once it gets to vote especially now that the raiders have secured the region.
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Postby Refuge Isle » Fri May 20, 2022 9:12 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Will support it once it gets to vote especially now that the raiders have secured the region.

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Postby Otaku Stratus » Sat May 21, 2022 11:56 am

I have no idea what this resolution is even talking about, it sounds like some IC stuff. But I'm particularly troubled by this idea that the 'international community' is united under the banner of terrorist organization antifa

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Postby RiderSyl » Sat May 21, 2022 12:04 pm

Otaku Stratus wrote:I have no idea what this resolution is even talking about, it sounds like some IC stuff. But I'm particularly troubled by this idea that the 'international community' is united under the banner of terrorist organization antifa


I'm not surprised antifascism bothers you, Otaku Stratus, considering you've previously expressed in this chamber that it's dystopian to reject fascism.
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Postby Fachumonn » Sat May 21, 2022 2:57 pm

The Libertarian Socialist Confederation has voted FOR this resolution.
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Postby Fremenilia » Sat May 21, 2022 6:58 pm

The Security Council,

Acknowledging that the intent of Security Council Resolution #398 (SCR #398) was to strike down the fortifications placed upon Confederacy of Layem in order for judgement of the region to be directed by the international community.

Understanding that the purpose of SCR #398 has been carried out through an occupation of the region by over 109 nations under the banner of Antifa, demonstrating the will of the international community against the region.

Asserting that permanent security measures to prevent the reestablishment of the old regime within Confederacy of Layem cannot be implemented unless SCR #398 is repealed.

Further maintaining that a repeal of SCR #398 does not in any way disprove the claims it has made about the necessity for the pacification of this region.

Noting that the Founder has been vapourised by an act of a deity, preventing their return to the region and ensuring the permanent pacification of the region for as long the multiverse exists.

Believing that SCR #398 has fulfilled its goal of removing barriers of entry into Confederacy of Layem and must now be repealed in order for the full destruction of the region to be complete.

Hereby Repeals SCR #398: Liberate Confederacy of Layem


Noting that we really don't care about all the apparently bad stuff they did as it has no effect on us.

Acknowledging that the Antifa region has been unjustifiably hostile to Nirnites.

Vowing to oppose them as such.

The Fremenilian Ambassador has no choice but to vote AGAINST the resolution.
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Postby Xeknos » Sat May 21, 2022 7:11 pm

Otaku Stratus wrote:I have no idea what this resolution is even talking about, it sounds like some IC stuff. But I'm particularly troubled by this idea that the 'international community' is united under the banner of terrorist organization antifa


Ah yes, the ol' "antifa are the real fascists" drivel.
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Postby Fremenilia » Sat May 21, 2022 7:12 pm

Xeknos wrote:
Otaku Stratus wrote:I have no idea what this resolution is even talking about, it sounds like some IC stuff. But I'm particularly troubled by this idea that the 'international community' is united under the banner of terrorist organization antifa


Ah yes, the ol' "antifa are the real fascists" drivel.

They said terrorist.
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Postby United Calanworie » Sat May 21, 2022 7:39 pm

Fremenilia wrote:
Xeknos wrote:
Ah yes, the ol' "antifa are the real fascists" drivel.

They said terrorist.

Which they aren't...
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Postby Fremenilia » Sat May 21, 2022 8:24 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Fremenilia wrote:They said terrorist.

Which they aren't...

I am not interested in whether or not they should be considered such, my point was merely that the Xeknos added fascist when the other person's message read terrorist. As they are not synonyms this is clearly a stretch by the Ambassador.(Though a group could be fascist and terrorist).
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Postby Xeknos » Sat May 21, 2022 8:31 pm

Fremenilia wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:Which they aren't...

I am not interested in whether or not they should be considered such, my point was merely that the Xeknos added fascist when the other person's message read terrorist. As they are not synonyms this is clearly a stretch by the Ambassador.(Though a group could be fascist and terrorist).


Either way, it's still wrong. Bigots and racists are gonna be big mad when people prevent them from being bigoted and racist, hence the lashing out.
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Postby The Human Confederation » Sun May 22, 2022 7:32 am

I was initially against this because it just seemed like a political mob destroying a region. But then I realized that whatever they did, it's so bad that stating it on this website would lead to a defamation case. Now I can understand why you would want to blow the place up.

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Postby Onionist Randosia » Sun May 22, 2022 5:11 pm

Otaku Stratus wrote:I have no idea what this resolution is even talking about, it sounds like some IC stuff. But I'm particularly troubled by this idea that the 'international community' is united under the banner of terrorist organization antifa

Per Antifa (the region)'s WFE:
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Postby Fachumonn » Sun May 22, 2022 6:12 pm

Otaku Stratus wrote:I have no idea what this resolution is even talking about, it sounds like some IC stuff. But I'm particularly troubled by this idea that the 'international community' is united under the banner of terrorist organization antifa

Maybe you should done a little of research, eh?
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