[ABANDONED] Repeal Liberate Nazi Europa

[Praeceps]

I am a bit conflicted on repeal of the liberation of Nazi Europa, nevertheless, I thought it was of merit to open a discussion on the topic (and accordingly, a draft repeal). For context, please see this.

On one hand, the region does not need the liberation repealed to be secured (as the mods are securing the region). However, I am not a fan of having unneeded active resolutions of which this resolution is now one. Additionally, given the lack of the region being able to exist anymore, the resolution going to vote would not advertise any Nazi regions. I would be quite interested in hearing people's thoughts on the matter and whether the liberation should be repealed or not.

I will wait and see if the mods take any action as to the resolution (albeit I imagine that )—the mods deleting/repealing the resolution would be preferable in any case.

The Security Council,

Identifying that Nazi Europa is an empty wasteland, devoid of nations;

Noting that the liberation was passed in order to facilitate the destruction of the region;

Acknowledging that the region was destructed in an unexpected manner and not directly as a result of the liberation;

Applauding nevertheless the annihilation of the region;

Encouraging further destruction of fascist regions;

Hereby repeals Liberate Nazi Europa.

[Outer Sparta]

Since the region CTEs, then it's basically impossible to do anything to them (condemn, commend, liberate) but of course repealing a liberation on a CTEd region is permissible.

I'll wait for more info as well, but you could make a case for both sides of the repeal of the liberation.

[Tinhampton]

500% support.

Personal opinion: Mod-deletion of resolutions might have been a good idea during the move to Jolt in 2004 when resolutions were unnumbered, but might end up being a major headache in 2021 when dozens of resolutions would have to be renumbered if Liberate NE were to be autoyanked.

[Bormiar]

If you’re so frustrated by the liberation, submit the repeal under a pseudonym. You don’t deserve credit for an SC resolution if it’s something as menial as this.

Also, I think it’d be interesting if you kept the other nation alive without answering issues or doing anything on it. That way we can see what the affect of an SC resolution is on rarity when S3 rolls around.

[Sedgistan]

Mods won't be doing anything on resolutions targeting regions that were erased today.

[Outer Sparta]

After Sedge's feedback, I lean more towards letting the liberation stay, mainly as a historical note.

[Tinhampton]

After Sedge's feedback, I lean more towards letting the liberation stay, mainly as a historical note.

Simply because a resolution has been repealed does not mean that it no longer exists in any form whatsoever.

[Outer Sparta]

After Sedge's feedback, I lean more towards letting the liberation stay, mainly as a historical note.

Simply because a resolution has been repealed does not mean that it no longer exists in any form whatsoever.

I know that, but simply repealing it on the basis that a nation is deleted by mod action doesn't really count for much to me.

[Tinhampton]

Simply because a resolution has been repealed does not mean that it no longer exists in any form whatsoever.

I know that, but simply repealing it on the basis that a nation is deleted by mod action doesn't really count for much to me.

Repeal "Commend Unibot II" noted as an afterthought that the nominee of the repealed resolution, "as a result of its own reprehensible behavior, has been annihilated and no longer even exists." There is no reason why Repeal Liberate NE should not be able to do similarly upon its passing a legality check by the Moderators.

[Outer Sparta]

I know that, but simply repealing it on the basis that a nation is deleted by mod action doesn't really count for much to me.

Repeal "Commend Unibot II" noted as an afterthought that the nominee of the repealed resolution, "as a result of its own reprehensible behavior, has been annihilated and no longer even exists." There is no reason why Repeal Liberate NE should not be able to do similarly upon its passing a legality check by the Moderators.

It was to repeal a commendation, which I do understand and how it ties into their other actions that don't make them commendable. I'm not sure how a repeal could fit in these circumstances surrounding a liberalization, but I do acknowledge it possibly could.

[Warzone Codger]

I prefer we finally use the old meme.

'Noting Nazi Europa,
Repeals Liberate Nazi Europa'.

Normally, someone would argue that this sort of phrasing would be illegal because it lacks an argument and doesn't address the resolution. I counter argue that it does: 'Noting Nazi Europa' is enough of an argument when Noting' shows the region literally doesn't exist and cannot be founded.

[Honeydewistania]

Badge hunter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Ok but fr... the identifying line is literally copying NationStates's description of no region nations. Maybe something more creative is in order

[Tinhampton]

As an aside, you might want to riff on the fact that Nazi Europa no longer "has an executive Founder" or indeed any founder of any description if you're concerned about avoiding problems with Rule 1b

[Cormactopia Prime]

I don't think I'd do this. It's unfortunate enough that Nazi Europa has one Security Council resolution to commemorate its existence already on the books, why bother giving it two? The repeal won't have any practical effect and it will just turn the game's attention to a now defunct Nazi region again for a few days.

[Nova Vandalia]

I want to first say I like where your heart is as on this Praeceps, but I also don't think this is necessary. As other have pointed it leave it because it'll bring the thankfully destroyed back into the lime light for a brief moment, and also as Outer Sparta said for historical reasons,it's a nice reminder that the community stood against the region long before the recent rulings.

[Tinhampton]

Why is it wrong to give attention to a region that literally cannot do anything about it, whether for their benefit or to their detriment?

[Cormactopia Prime]

Why is it wrong to give attention to a region that literally cannot do anything about it, whether for their benefit or to their detriment?

It's not so much about the region as what it represents. Given this will have no effect, I don't see any reason to call additional attention to Nazis, who are very much still present in this game even if their regions aren't. It just doesn't make any sense to me to give them any kind of attention without good reason.

[Outer Sparta]

Why is it wrong to give attention to a region that literally cannot do anything about it, whether for their benefit or to their detriment?

It's not so much about the region as what it represents. Given this will have no effect, I don't see any reason to call additional attention to Nazis, who are very much still present in this game even if their regions aren't. It just doesn't make any sense to me to give them any kind of attention without good reason.

Agreed. Basically I see no point to this given they were deleted and cleared out by the mods.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

I’m going to go with leave it be. They’ve gone, let’s not give any of their ilk any more attention.

[Nakena]

Wouldn have the liberation become redundant with Nazi Europa permanently CTE'd?

Eitherway I would be inclined to support the resolution if it were better written. In its current form its not good enough to get my support.

*sips tea*

[Praeceps]

Been rather busy lately and not productive (and also procrastination ); my apologies for the rather late status update. Just wanted to inform that at this time, I won't be proceeding with this resolution between feeling ambivalent about it already and the input of others here. Thanks for the responses everyone.