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The Unified Missourtama States
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Postby The Unified Missourtama States » Wed May 13, 2020 4:38 pm

Overall really nice, I think a condemnation is an interesting choice for this nation but I will likely vote for. Here are some things I saw, and think you can improve:
Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:The noble Security Council,

Aware that each day governments will encounter various national issues, and that while these issues may sometimes arise naturally, they are often instead the result of ill-intentioned organisations seeking to undermine the peace and sovereignty of their victim nations,

Asserting that Australian rePublic has fabricated such issues on an unimaginable scale, and that the suffering for which it is responsible cannot be by anyone fully comprehended,

this first part is fine. Although not necessary I would recommend changing the highlighted to a more grammatically correct "fully comprehended by anyone".
Highlighting the fact that this Council exists for the “spreading of peace and goodwill”, ideals which we, and indeed the entire international community, hold dearly in our hearts,

I believe this is an unnecessary clause, do not to need to outline the purpose of the security council.
Convinced that Australian rePublic represents a threat to these ideals in all nations of all universes, and that the fallout of its vicious crimes is inescapable by even the most isolated and unprovocative governments,

Amazing!
Attempting to communicate to some degree the horrors Australian rePublic has unleashed on thousands of victim nations by describing just a few of the covert missions its government has so maliciously orchestrated:
  • Mission #552: “Must Be A Full Moon”, in which Australian rePublic co-ordinated the strategic mooning of government officials in an attempt to incite dangerous national revolutions, inadvertently crashing fashion industries across the universes by causing an inexplicable drop in demand for pants,
  • Mission #664: “Your Land Or Mine”, in which the national government sent veritable flash mobs of secret agents into unsuspecting nations, inventing entire fake indigenous tribes and cultures with sacred sites conveniently located over valuable mining locations, leading to economic collapses and the subsequent deaths of billions due to irreparably destroyed healthcare systems,
  • Mission #733: “The Path Less Traveled”, in which ports vital to national economies were frozen over with toxic chemicals in an attempt to invade nations with armies of millions of malicious macaroni penguins, and where only poor mission planning on behalf of Australian rePublic prevented thousands of nations from being totally overrun by the aquatic birds,
  • Mission #981: “Westfailian Sovereignty”, in which the leftover penguins from Mission #733 were sent into innocent states disguised as dangerous masked terrorists all under pseudonym “Mega Momo”, leading to the imperiling of national sovereignty as nations across the universes hopelessly invaded one another seeking to eliminate the terrorist in the international craze now known as “Momo Madness”, and
  • Mission #1237: “A Polar Bear’s Tale”, in which Australian rePublic fabricated nonsensical legislation concerning such matters as polar bears and fire hoses and slipped these eccentric laws into the government archives of unsuspecting victim nations, leading to allegations of corruption and an unprecedented demand for goggles,
Aware that Australian rePublic’s actions will have impacts lasting into eternity, and that the effects of these terrible missions are irreversible even for such a powerful organization as this Council,

Convinced that the damage Australian rePublic has dealt the international community must not be ignored or forgotten, as many of us doubtless wish it would be, but instead be grimly remembered, and that we must make an example of this nation to communicate that such malicious behaviour will not be tolerated by this Council,

Hereby condemns Australian rePublic.

This last part is great.
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Postby Fauxia » Fri May 15, 2020 4:50 am

I think you should add something about Aussie’s fruit basket habit. They constitute bribes!
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Postby Warzone Codger » Fri May 15, 2020 4:32 pm

Fauxia wrote:I think you should add something about Aussie’s fruit basket habit. They constitute bribes!


I am not comfortable canonlising the player nation Australian rePublic with the In-Issue nation of Ausblic. It seems to metagamey to me - there are seperate things even if he is the author of that nation
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Postby Atheris » Fri May 15, 2020 4:36 pm

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Postby Frieden-und Freudenland » Fri May 15, 2020 4:38 pm

Warzone Codger wrote:
Fauxia wrote:I think you should add something about Aussie’s fruit basket habit. They constitute bribes!


I am not comfortable canonlising the player nation Australian rePublic with the In-Issue nation of Ausblic. It seems to metagamey to me - there are seperate things even if he is the author of that nation

I think this was actually a reference to Aussie's former habit of posting fruit basket pics to new players drafting issues in the Got Issues? forum. It was spammy and he stopped doing that after being warned by the editors.

But another nation created an issue about a nation named Ausblic that kept sending fruit baskets to @@NAME@@, inspired by Aussie's behavior. Aussie was not the originator of Ausblic.
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Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Wed May 20, 2020 10:08 pm

Thanks for all the responses, folks! Sorry it took me a while to reply.
The Unified Missourtama States wrote:
Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:Asserting that Australian rePublic has fabricated such issues on an unimaginable scale, and that the suffering for which it is responsible cannot be by anyone fully comprehended,
Although not necessary I would recommend changing the highlighted to a more grammatically correct "fully comprehended by anyone".
Hi, and thanks for your response. I realise the grammar is a tad strange, but I'm trying to make the proposal sound as over-dramatised as possible, so I'm inclined to leave this as-is.
The Unified Missourtama States wrote:
Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:Highlighting the fact that this Council exists for the “spreading of peace and goodwill”, ideals which we, and indeed the entire international community, hold dearly in our hearts,

I believe this is an unnecessary clause, do not to need to outline the purpose of the security council.
I really thought about this, wrote an alternate version of the part, and deliberated about which I prefer; if I get further similar responses I may reconsider, but right now I think this clause does a good job of explicitly stating why this nation deserves the Council's attention. It also continues the over-sincere rhetoric with the "dearly in our hearts" part, which I’m quite fond of. Like I said, if I get some more replies on this I’ll be open to changing it, but right now my preference is to keep the current version.
The Unified Missourtama States wrote:
Convinced that Australian rePublic represents a threat to these ideals in all nations of all universes, and that the fallout of its vicious crimes is inescapable by even the most isolated and unprovocative governments,

Amazing!
Attempting to communicate to some degree the horrors Australian rePublic has unleashed on thousands of victim nations by describing just a few of the covert missions its government has so maliciously orchestrated:
  • Mission #552: “Must Be A Full Moon”, in which Australian rePublic co-ordinated the strategic mooning of government officials in an attempt to incite dangerous national revolutions, inadvertently crashing fashion industries across the universes by causing an inexplicable drop in demand for pants,
  • Mission #664: “Your Land Or Mine”, in which the national government sent veritable flash mobs of secret agents into unsuspecting nations, inventing entire fake indigenous tribes and cultures with sacred sites conveniently located over valuable mining locations, leading to economic collapses and the subsequent deaths of billions due to irreparably destroyed healthcare systems,
  • Mission #733: “The Path Less Traveled”, in which ports vital to national economies were frozen over with toxic chemicals in an attempt to invade nations with armies of millions of malicious macaroni penguins, and where only poor mission planning on behalf of Australian rePublic prevented thousands of nations from being totally overrun by the aquatic birds,
  • Mission #981: “Westfailian Sovereignty”, in which the leftover penguins from Mission #733 were sent into innocent states disguised as dangerous masked terrorists all under pseudonym “Mega Momo”, leading to the imperiling of national sovereignty as nations across the universes hopelessly invaded one another seeking to eliminate the terrorist in the international craze now known as “Momo Madness”, and
  • Mission #1237: “A Polar Bear’s Tale”, in which Australian rePublic fabricated nonsensical legislation concerning such matters as polar bears and fire hoses and slipped these eccentric laws into the government archives of unsuspecting victim nations, leading to allegations of corruption and an unprecedented demand for goggles,
Aware that Australian rePublic’s actions will have impacts lasting into eternity, and that the effects of these terrible missions are irreversible even for such a powerful organization as this Council,

Convinced that the damage Australian rePublic has dealt the international community must not be ignored or forgotten, as many of us doubtless wish it would be, but instead be grimly remembered, and that we must make an example of this nation to communicate that such malicious behaviour will not be tolerated by this Council,

Hereby condemns Australian rePublic.

This last part is great.
Thanks, I'm glad you like it! And thanks for your feedback. :)
Fauxia wrote:I think you should add something about Aussie’s fruit basket habit. They constitute bribes!
Warzone Codger wrote:
Fauxia wrote:I think you should add something about Aussie’s fruit basket habit. They constitute bribes!


I am not comfortable canonlising the player nation Australian rePublic with the In-Issue nation of Ausblic. It seems to metagamey to me - there are seperate things even if he is the author of that nation
Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:
Warzone Codger wrote:
I am not comfortable canonlising the player nation Australian rePublic with the In-Issue nation of Ausblic. It seems to metagamey to me - there are seperate things even if he is the author of that nation

I think this was actually a reference to Aussie's former habit of posting fruit basket pics to new players drafting issues in the Got Issues? forum. It was spammy and he stopped doing that after being warned by the editors.

But another nation created an issue about a nation named Ausblic that kept sending fruit baskets to @@NAME@@, inspired by Aussie's behavior. Aussie was not the originator of Ausblic.
Taking all of this together, I'm not sure any changes are appropriate, and I'd hate to get whacked by a moderator for doing something illegal. Regardless, thanks for the responses! :)
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Postby Fauxia » Sat May 23, 2020 10:59 am

I don’t see how it would be illegal.

Aussie’s fruit baskets were a Got Issues meme for quite a bit. I’d be very disappointed to not see it in this proposal.
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Postby Frieden-und Freudenland » Sat May 23, 2020 1:41 pm

Fauxia wrote:I don’t see how it would be illegal.

Aussie’s fruit baskets were a Got Issues meme for quite a bit. I’d be very disappointed to not see it in this proposal.

No, it should be included in the proposal. I was just trying to say that it would be problematic to equate the NS nation of Ausblic with Australian rePublic, even if the former was based on the latter. Also, the fruit basket issue that first introduced Ausblic into the game was not written by Australian rePublic himself.

But quite apart from that, Aussie's obnoxious habit of spamming the GI forum with fruit baskets can be mentioned in the condemnation, of course. :)
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Postby Electrum » Tue May 26, 2020 4:04 am

I know Australian Republic is/was also prolific on the Global Economics and Trade forum, so it might also be good to mention that area. As I recall, AR did have a fruit/vegetable storefront.
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Fruit-basket clauses have been added!

Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Tue May 26, 2020 9:19 pm

Fauxia wrote:I don’t see how it would be illegal.

Aussie’s fruit baskets were a Got Issues meme for quite a bit. I’d be very disappointed to not see it in this proposal.
Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:
Fauxia wrote:I don’t see how it would be illegal.

Aussie’s fruit baskets were a Got Issues meme for quite a bit. I’d be very disappointed to not see it in this proposal.

No, it should be included in the proposal. I was just trying to say that it would be problematic to equate the NS nation of Ausblic with Australian rePublic, even if the former was based on the latter. Also, the fruit basket issue that first introduced Ausblic into the game was not written by Australian rePublic himself.

But quite apart from that, Aussie's obnoxious habit of spamming the GI forum with fruit baskets can be mentioned in the condemnation, of course. :)
Electrum wrote:I know Australian Republic is/was also prolific on the Global Economics and Trade forum, so it might also be good to mention that area. As I recall, AR did have a fruit/vegetable storefront.
All right, so due to popular demand, I've added a clause about Australian rePublic's distribution of brainwashing chemicals (disguised as "fruit baskets", of course). Also a clause about how mods ("Mysterious Otherworldly Deities", get it? :D) ended up intervening make them stop. I've avoided linking the condemnee with "Ausblic", so illegality shouldn't be a problem.
I considered adding something about the Global Economics and Trade forums, but since the fruits are framed as brainwashing people into organising their own missions (a.k.a. writing their own Issues), having them sold on the side in another forum doesn't really make sense. I could have framed it a different way, but I think the scope of the proposal is good as-is. Still, thanks Electrum for the idea! :)

I must say, I was hesitant to add this stuff in at first, but I really like it. Thanks to everyone who suggested this! :)

What are your thoughts, folks; did I do the baskets justice?
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Postby Atheris » Thu May 28, 2020 7:04 pm

Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:
Fauxia wrote:I don’t see how it would be illegal.

Aussie’s fruit baskets were a Got Issues meme for quite a bit. I’d be very disappointed to not see it in this proposal.
Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:No, it should be included in the proposal. I was just trying to say that it would be problematic to equate the NS nation of Ausblic with Australian rePublic, even if the former was based on the latter. Also, the fruit basket issue that first introduced Ausblic into the game was not written by Australian rePublic himself.

But quite apart from that, Aussie's obnoxious habit of spamming the GI forum with fruit baskets can be mentioned in the condemnation, of course. :)
Electrum wrote:I know Australian Republic is/was also prolific on the Global Economics and Trade forum, so it might also be good to mention that area. As I recall, AR did have a fruit/vegetable storefront.
All right, so due to popular demand, I've added a clause about Australian rePublic's distribution of brainwashing chemicals (disguised as "fruit baskets", of course). Also a clause about how mods ("Mysterious Otherworldly Deities", get it? :D) ended up intervening make them stop. I've avoided linking the condemnee with "Ausblic", so illegality shouldn't be a problem.
I considered adding something about the Global Economics and Trade forums, but since the fruits are framed as brainwashing people into organising their own missions (a.k.a. writing their own Issues), having them sold on the side in another forum doesn't really make sense. I could have framed it a different way, but I think the scope of the proposal is good as-is. Still, thanks Electrum for the idea! :)

I must say, I was hesitant to add this stuff in at first, but I really like it. Thanks to everyone who suggested this! :)

What are your thoughts, folks; did I do the baskets justice?

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Postby The Marsupial Illuminati » Thu May 28, 2020 8:01 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:

Hello and welcome to Got Issues the Security Council! It's always nice to see a new writer!

Excellent, especially for a first draft!

Now let's take a look. I'm gonna be abrupt and to the point here, which is a reflection of my personality, not your work:

Quote edit is mine.

The mods did not tell Aussie to stop posting the above message (which I received three times). It was the editor Candlewhisper Archive, I believe.
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