[PASSED] Liberate Boston

[The Commandant]

We're both right. As the founder of TDP and coordinator of the occupation, I can tell you that KREICH came here on their own authority. They were never invited.

Have you considered... telling them to leave?

Why yes I have. I’m not going to waste influence banning pilers, but I will ask them to leave.

[Terra Voltera]

Have you considered... telling them to leave?

Why yes I have. I’m not going to waste influence banning pilers, but I will ask them to leave.

If they leave before I submit the proposal, ill remove the Nazi content. If not, that will stay a part of the proposal. I'm looking to submit this tonight, so make it snappy lol.

[Syberis]

Give them a chance, they're new to the "Lying to the NS World" thing.

We're both right. As the founder of TDP and coordinator of the occupation, I can tell you that KREICH came here on their own authority. They were never invited.

That smells, to me, like a truckload of grade-A horseshit.

[Devi Vytherin]

We're both right. As the founder of TDP and coordinator of the occupation, I can tell you that KREICH came here on their own authority. They were never invited.

That smells, to me, like a truckload of grade-A horseshit.

I hate to be *that guy*, but fash have shown up to occupations uninvited in the recent past. Japan, at the very least. So there is circumstantial evidence to support the claim.

[Drop Your Pants]

I hate to be *that guy*, but fash have shown up to occupations uninvited in the recent past. Japan, at the very least. So there is circumstantial evidence to support the claim.

While that is true, the argument that "waste[ing] influence banning pilers," has never been used. The 3 obvious KRiech nations have sweet feck all influence doesn't help.

Kick them or enjoy a lovely life as Nazi supporters. Either way, you've opened yourself up to a world of fun

[The Commandant]

I hate to be *that guy*, but fash have shown up to occupations uninvited in the recent past. Japan, at the very least. So there is circumstantial evidence to support the claim.

While that is true, the argument that "waste[ing] influence banning pilers," has never been used. The 3 obvious KRiech nations have sweet feck all influence doesn't help.

Kick them or enjoy a lovely life as Nazi supporters. Either way, you've opened yourself up to a world of fun

Well it also just so happens that I'm only getting 30 influence an update and the natives have a lot of influence. I myself am not a Nazi and neither is my region. TDP does not want to be seen as Nazi collaborators and does not wish to work with Nazis. However, we will not sacrifice an update or two banning them as we need all the influence we can get.

[Kurnugia]

While that is true, the argument that "waste[ing] influence banning pilers," has never been used. The 3 obvious KRiech nations have sweet feck all influence doesn't help.

Kick them or enjoy a lovely life as Nazi supporters. Either way, you've opened yourself up to a world of fun

Well it also just so happens that I'm only getting 30 influence an update and the natives have a lot of influence. I myself am not a Nazi and neither is my region. TDP does not want to be seen as Nazi collaborators and does not wish to work with Nazis. However, we will not sacrifice an update or two banning them as we need all the influence we can get.

TLDR:

You lack a spine.

[The Nice Commandant]

Well it also just so happens that I'm only getting 30 influence an update and the natives have a lot of influence. I myself am not a Nazi and neither is my region. TDP does not want to be seen as Nazi collaborators and does not wish to work with Nazis. However, we will not sacrifice an update or two banning them as we need all the influence we can get.

TLDR:

You lack a spine.

And what is that supposed to mean?

[Kurnugia]

TLDR:

You lack a spine.

And what is that supposed to mean?

Meaning you will throw away your stated principles of as soon as you see to gain something. That's what I call spineless.

[Frisbeeteria]

You lack a spine.

And you've crossed over from gameplay banter into the realm of personal attacks. *** Warned for flaming ***

[Tupelope]

That smells, to me, like a truckload of grade-A horseshit.

I hate to be *that guy*, but fash have shown up to occupations uninvited in the recent past. Japan, at the very least. So there is circumstantial evidence to support the claim.

didnt u ppl boot the fash tho instead of pussy foot around bout it

[Kurnugia]

I hate to be *that guy*, but fash have shown up to occupations uninvited in the recent past. Japan, at the very least. So there is circumstantial evidence to support the claim.

didnt u ppl boot the fash tho instead of pussy foot around bout it

yup. Once that they have been pointed out, the boot was swift.

[The Commandant]

They came on their own accord but we didn't want to waste influence kicking them; all we were willing to do was tell them to leave. However we eventually DID kick them all.

[Unibot III]

Here's some additions and revisions....

The Security Council,

Noting that Boston has been troubled with invasions routinely since its founder ceased to exist;

Observing that at this time Boston is under occupation by a coalition of regions, including at least one Nazi/Fascist region and one internationally blacklisted region; leading this coalition is The Dictatorial Paradise which promotes itself as a region for "all oppressive, authoritarian and autocratic nations;"

Understanding that given the sheer forces that the occupation has amassed in Boston, the intent to commit regional destruction appears highly probable - especially as the potential to do so grows daily;

Believing that no region deserves to become a wasteland trophy of Nazi ideology, fascist or invader propaganda;

Determined that the international community should do everything in its power to prevent innocent regions, like Boston, from becoming trophies of fascists, Nazis, or their collaborators;

Hereby liberates Boston.

But I've seen you've submitted now, so good luck. I hope you can reach quorum soon. It's more important that this goes to vote soon.

[Aresin]

Hey, you guys've got us all wrong here! We're just taking a nice Summer vacation to historic Boston! Of course it is an armed vacation, but can you blame us? This is Boston after all.

[Conquerus]

What have we got here? Another liberation? If you guys are done in The Monarchist Entente, why don't you take Boston by force? Surely you can defeat a region barely 2 months old without whining to the W.A!

[Kurnugia]

What have we got here? Another liberation? If you guys are done in The Monarchist Entente, why don't you take Boston by force? Surely you can defeat a region barely 2 months old without whining to the W.A!

hmmm salt

Play the game my dude. Foreign reputation is essential for any org.

[All Wild Things]

First, should we give raiders notoriety by making them the subject of one of only around 260 Security Council resolutions? All because we don't want them to add one to the thousands of trophy regions? To me, this is disproportionate, and a little like rewarding them with a “condemnation”, with them having done nothing in particular to deserve it.
Second, the proposal does nothing to benefit the region. Boston's fledgling community was destroyed about seven months ago, apparently by a joint force of TITO, and the Grey Wardens.
Denied a community, the future of Boston is now to be either trophy or warzone. Both options are bad. I don't believe that the OP deserves an SC badge for creating a warzone, and I don't believe the raiders deserve the notoriety for this raid. I'm against this proposal.
I've telegrammed Stratagem (the person who built Boston's only community) to ask their opinion.

[Terra Voltera]

First, should we give raiders notoriety by making them the subject of one of only around 260 Security Council resolutions? All because we don't want them to add one to the thousands of trophy regions? To me, this is disproportionate, and a little like rewarding them with a “condemnation”, with them having done nothing in particular to deserve it.
Second, the proposal does nothing to benefit the region. Boston's fledgling community was destroyed about seven months ago, apparently by a joint force of TITO, and the Grey Wardens.
Denied a community, the future of Boston is now to be either trophy or warzone. Both options are bad. I don't believe that the OP deserves an SC badge for creating a warzone, and I don't believe the raiders deserve the notoriety for this raid. I'm against this proposal.
I've telegrammed Stratagem (the person who built Boston's only community) to ask their opinion.

Did you know that Stratagem was in the independent military of Merridel, a military willing to attack other regions and make them trophies? Stratagem was also receiving help from members of Europeia's military, which is why we acted to kick her out. We were approached by one of the people who had nations in Boston and asked us to save the region from Stratagem, so why don't you learn the while story before throwing out wild accusations?

[All Wild Things]

First, should we give raiders notoriety by making them the subject of one of only around 260 Security Council resolutions? All because we don't want them to add one to the thousands of trophy regions? To me, this is disproportionate, and a little like rewarding them with a “condemnation”, with them having done nothing in particular to deserve it.
Second, the proposal does nothing to benefit the region. Boston's fledgling community was destroyed about seven months ago, apparently by a joint force of TITO, and the Grey Wardens.
Denied a community, the future of Boston is now to be either trophy or warzone. Both options are bad. I don't believe that the OP deserves an SC badge for creating a warzone, and I don't believe the raiders deserve the notoriety for this raid. I'm against this proposal.
I've telegrammed Stratagem (the person who built Boston's only community) to ask their opinion.

Did you know that Stratagem was in the independent military of Merridel, a military willing to attack other regions and make them trophies? Stratagem was also receiving help from members of Europeia's military, which is why we acted to kick her out. We were approached by one of the people who had nations in Boston and asked us to save the region from Stratagem, so why don't you learn the while story before throwing out wild accusations?

My first point still stands. The choice is between warzone and trophy.

As to "wild accusations", it's pretty clear from the RMB that they did indeed create a community. It's also pretty clear that the community got destroyed.

Stratagem may well have had the aim of refounding as a trophy, I'm not in a position to argue that point. And it's nice to know that you helped out a Bostonian nation. I'm sure it worked out really well for them.

So, warzone and notoriety for raiders, or lame trophy?

[Kurnugia]

Did you know that Stratagem was in the independent military of Merridel, a military willing to attack other regions and make them trophies? Stratagem was also receiving help from members of Europeia's military, which is why we acted to kick her out. We were approached by one of the people who had nations in Boston and asked us to save the region from Stratagem, so why don't you learn the while story before throwing out wild accusations?

My first point still stands. The choice is between warzone and trophy.

As to "wild accusations", it's pretty clear from the RMB that they did indeed create a community. It's also pretty clear that the community got destroyed.

Stratagem may well have had the aim of refounding as a trophy, I'm not in a position to argue that point. And it's nice to know that you helped out a Bostonian nation. I'm sure it worked out really well for them.

So, warzone and notoriety for raiders, or lame trophy?

notoriety isn't a positive thing. So... the former. With this, TDP is branded as a region that has no qualms whatsoever to work with OOC toxic and nazi regions.

EDIT: Inherently a positive thing

[All Wild Things]

notoriety isn't a positive thing. So... the former. With this, TDP is branded as a region that has no qualms whatsoever to work with OOC toxic and nazi regions.

EDIT: Inherently a positive thing

Interesting. So what do you think the raiders best move is now? If they pulled out of Boston voluntarily, the resolution would no longer be needed, and might not pass. Would they still get labelled as toxic? Or would that buy them a second chance?

[Kurnugia]

notoriety isn't a positive thing. So... the former. With this, TDP is branded as a region that has no qualms whatsoever to work with OOC toxic and nazi regions.

EDIT: Inherently a positive thing

Interesting. So what do you think the raiders best move is now? If they pulled out of Boston voluntarily, the resolution would no longer be needed, and might not pass. Would they still get labelled as toxic? Or would that buy them a second chance?

Interesting proposed course of action. There would be some goodwill on my side. Since they are perhaps not as fluent in GP as most here are. I would be willing. Yes. However, ultimately, this is something GP as a whole would decide upon.

[Those Guys with a lot of fire arms]

My nation and it region would like to support you in anyway we can! Please message me so we can remove those that hold boston!

[Niceguy National Socialist]

Determined that the international community should do everything in its power to prevent innocent regions from becoming trophies of fascists, nazis, or their collaborators;

does that mean that guilty regions deserve it?
Aside from preteen virtue signalling, is there any substance to this proposal?

please stick to the guide when in doubt
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