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The Glorious Hypetrain
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Postby The Glorious Hypetrain » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:51 pm

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Moralistic Democracy

Postby The North Polish Union » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:39 pm

The Glorious Hypetrain wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=the_north_polish_union_1503769130

R4: His

There was a thread for this. You could've pointed it out there.
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Postby Ransium » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:42 pm


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Postby Ransium » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:45 pm


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Crazy girl
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Postby Crazy girl » Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:18 pm

Could you please copy the text so people can read it even when it's pulled? :)


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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Crazy girl » Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:26 pm

No worries :P

It's just nice to have this thread as a reference place rather than just a thread with dead links :)

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Ransium
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Postby Ransium » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:22 am

Sorry, I was on mobile, I will in the future!

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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Crazy girl » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:08 am

ID: federal_galactica_1505018266

Repeal: “Liberate Utopia”

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#13

Proposed by: Federal Galactica

Security Council Resolution #13 “Liberate Utopia” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

KEEPING IN MIND that every region should have the right to be password protected regardless of its status.

CONCERN BEING the need to reject the notion of the WA preventing a region(s) from password protection.

I request that we repeal Liberate Utopia as they should be free to make the decisions of this nature without the
interference of the global community.


Rule 3 and 4, both in the last line.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Ransium » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:15 pm

ID: val_verte_1505583520

Commend Vanke

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee: Vanke

Proposed by: Val Verte

For the past 12 years, this world has seen it's ups and downs. The nation of Vanke has been there to guide humanity through the turbulent times that have plagued this world. Yet he has got no praise. The nation of Val Verte finds that very hypocritical, for the Security Council to do that. So we have set out to thank, and pay tribute to the nation of Vanke. In Val Verde we have made December 12 National Vanke Day. We ask that everybody join us in thanks.


R3; R4(b&d)
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Postby Ransium » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:45 am

ID: martigues_1505653435

Condemn Antifa

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Antifa

Proposed by: Martigues

Appalled by this region's actions against other sovereign regions via raiding.

Acknowledging that Antifa uses malicious and deceitful tactics to shut down regions with opinions that differ from their own views.

Showing that Antifa shows no remorse for its actions as a region and takes pride in silencing different ideologies and brutalizing other regions.

Noting that Antifa is responsible for the invasion and complete destruction of several regions.

Finding it hypocritical and dishonorable that Antifa claims to be an anti-fascist region yet their actions prove otherwise.

HEREBY condemns Antifa and its actions in an effort to deter Antifa from continuing these cowardly acts.

(Originally made by Hogwarts Pride, who has authorized me to repost this proposal.)


I still find this to be an R3 violation (condemning the region's actions).

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Drasnia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Drasnia » Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:53 am

Also a 4b violation for using me.
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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:41 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1505719575

Commend Europe

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee: Europe

Proposed by: Lux lux luxembourg

Europe is such a great region
i nominate it
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Postby Ransium » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:30 am

ID: the_hatz_1505910406

Commend The North Pacific

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee: The North Pacific

Proposed by: The Hatz

Recognization: The North Pacific needs to be recognized for its outstanding amount of nations, 1st in all of NationStates. Despite it is a feeder nation, it recruits many other nations naturally, by their own choice (such as me!). They have so many amazing opportunities and in-region activities such as Role Playing, Democratic Debates, and even their own website/forum!

Observe: The North Pacific works tirelessly to educate those who are new and those who have come from all regions in search of help through telegrams. The North Pacific is gracious and supportive to every single nation that joins or spawns there.

Viewing: The North Pacific's knowledge, understanding, and leadership in NationStates roleplay, in both in context and out of context aspects, for off-site and on-site forums.

Hereby commends The North Pacific


R4(b&d)

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Postby Ransium » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:44 am

ID: martigues_1506082371

Condemn Antifa

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Antifa
Proposed by: Martigues
APPALLED by Antifa's actions against other sovereign regions via raiding.

NOTICING that Antifa specifically targets regions with ideologies that conflict with theirs, i.e. fascist-themed regions.

SEEING that Antifa shows no remorse for its actions as a region and takes pride in silencing different ideologies and brutalizing other regions.

FINDING it hypocritical and dishonorable that Antifa claims to be an anti-fascist region, and yet they destroy anyone who they believe conflict with their own views.

HEREBY condemns Antifa and its actions in an effort to deter the region from continuing these horrid and hypocritical acts.

(The idea was from Hogwarts Pride. Some things have been changed from the original version.)


It was an R3 violation the first two times and still is.

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Bears Armed Mission
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed Mission » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:35 am

Ransium wrote:
ID: martigues_1506082371

Condemn Antifa

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Antifa
Proposed by: Martigues
APPALLED by Antifa's actions against other sovereign regions via raiding.

NOTICING that Antifa specifically targets regions with ideologies that conflict with theirs, i.e. fascist-themed regions.

SEEING that Antifa shows no remorse for its actions as a region and takes pride in silencing different ideologies and brutalizing other regions.

FINDING it hypocritical and dishonorable that Antifa claims to be an anti-fascist region, and yet they destroy anyone who they believe conflict with their own views.

HEREBY condemns Antifa and its actions in an effort to deter the region from continuing these horrid and hypocritical acts.

(The idea was from Hogwarts Pride. Some things have been changed from the original version.)


It was an R3 violation the first two times and still is.

Does this version's author actually have permission from Hogwarts Pride for the use of the bits that weren't changed?
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:10 am

I'm trying to get up to speed on SC moderation, but I've still got some gaps.
Ransium wrote:It was an R3 violation the first two times and still is.

I'm confused as to how this is an R3 violation. It seems to me that the next to last line meets the R3 requirement. What am I missing?

Bears Armed Mission wrote:Does this version's author actually have permission from Hogwarts Pride for the use of the bits that weren't changed?

I'm also not clear on how to verify the intent of a co-author. This one was listed awkwardly, but it may be legit. Thoughts?

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Postby Ransium » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:19 am

As per the rule Compendium:

An example operative clause is "Hereby Condemns Exampletonia". Operative clauses must be clear that they're targeting the nominee, rather than the actions cited in the pre-ambulatory clauses (see here). You must clearly state the name of the nominee in the operative clause, not a nickname, and misspelling the name is liable to get your proposal removed.


(underline emphasis my own). Therefore I read:

HEREBY condemns Antifa and its actions in an effort to deter the region from continuing these horrid and hypocritical acts.


As being illegal for condemning the actions of the regions. You can't condemn actions, only nations/regions. If the underlined bit removed I think it would be legal.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Wrapper » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:22 am

Frisbeeteria wrote:I'm confused as to how this is an R3 violation. It seems to me that the next to last line meets the R3 requirement. What am I missing?

It's borderline but illegal. R3 says a condemnation can only condemn its nominee; this proposal condemns the nominee "and its actions". Language like "Condemns X for actions XYZ" is fine, but "Condemns X and its actions XYZ" has never been.

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Bears Armed Mission wrote:Does this version's author actually have permission from Hogwarts Pride for the use of the bits that weren't changed?

I'm also not clear on how to verify the intent of a co-author. This one was listed awkwardly, but it may be legit. Thoughts?

Still need permission. I searched the forum and a couple RMBs, I don't see anything giving permission to use the original draft. Unless a TG was sent, this would be plagiarism and warrant ejection.
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Postby Ransium » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:39 am

Thanks Wrapper, with the proposal not being removed 3 times, I was starting to doubt my own sanity.

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Martigues
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Ex-Nation

Postby Martigues » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:19 pm

Ransium wrote:As per the rule Compendium:
HEREBY condemns Antifa and its actions in an effort to deter the region from continuing these horrid and hypocritical acts.


As being illegal for condemning the actions of the regions. You can't condemn actions, only nations/regions. If the underlined bit removed I think it would be legal.

I'll change it. Thank you.

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Ex-Nation

Postby Lata Eden 2 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:55 am

Condemn Oclandia

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Oclandia

Proposed by: Honeytopia

Noticing that Oclandia once had a flourishing pizza delivery industry that has now crashed suddenly after several pieces of legislation were passed in that country.

Noting that there is an ongoing investigation of Oclandia in their region, Oclandia is showing signs of corruption and drawing state funds away from humanitarian efforts.

Alarmed By the fact that Oclandia is not contributing to growing the region for the better and helping give rights to those in their region.


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Postby Ransium » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:53 am

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Condemn Cron Narist

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Cron Narist

Proposed by: Utopian Chillstate Moderegion

The Security Council,

UNDERSTANDING that Cron Narist has threatened to attack and launch a merciless and unprovoked war of conquest against Terran PanauPanauan FederationSoscialist panau and any nation called Panau is threatened by this out of control, deluded, rougue, violent nation.

APPALLED that Cron Narist has tried to drum up support for an invasion of any nation called Panau on the Nationsates Forum

OUTRAGED that Fascist Communist Alliance has given shelter to these barbarians

APPALLED by Cron Narist's horrific human rights violations and execution of political dissidents

DISGRACED by the country's imperialist aggresive policies and ambitions

OUTRAGED by its censorship programs, for example, shutting down MyFace, on the ground of "teenagers safety" but really as a censorship grab

MANDATES that Cron Narist immediately withdrawal and suspend its threats against the Panauan Nations
MANDATES that Cron Narist reinstates elections and stops executing political dissidents
MANDATES that Cron Narist totally liberalise access to the internet
MANDATES that no region or nation give a platform to Cron Narist and its bigoted Nazi views

Hereby Condems Cron Narist


R3 the for all the "MANDATES" clauses

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Capitalizt

Postby Oakrugia » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:11 pm

Condemn The Black Hawks

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: The Black Hawks

Proposed by: Elysiumz

Condemn The Black Hawks

NOTING that The Black Hawks are an aggressive raiding organization.

ACKNOWLEDGING that raiding is legal, yet controversial, under-regulated, and frequently unsportsmanlike.

CONCERNED that The Black Hawks have openly targeted and raided hundreds of regions and used regional bans to permanently exert their control.

RECOGNIZING that The Black Hawks have admitted to conspiring to pass a Security Council resolution to commend their own nation by drafting the text.

CONCERNED that a vote in favor of this resolution will make World Assembly delegates and their regions targets of The Black Hawks, as has been reported following previous proposal attempts.

NOTING that such targeting is proven to have a cooling effect on free speech and the democratic process.

FURTHER NOTING that free speech and the democratic process are the sole methods of presenting or supporting a Security Council resolution.

CONCERNED that a cooling of expression and democracy paralyze the Security Council and prevent it from fulfilling its mandate.

HEREBY CONDEMNS The Black Hawks for endangering the functioning and survival of the Security Council.


Illegal since it is a duplicate [2a] of the First Black Hawks Condemnation.
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