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[PASSED] Repeal "Condemn Gest"

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Kaboomlandia
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:03 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Jakker wrote:But you know what's really proves the silliness of this proposal? Condemn General Halcones is still very much alive and well. :P

Then it seems we have a bit more housekeeping to do after this one passes.

Full support, Kaboom.

Repealing Halc's condemnation is another planned project of mine after wrapping up this one, planning to use some of the same logic for that one too.
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Postby Fauxia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:48 pm

The Stalker wrote:
Willania Imperium wrote:Who the hell wants a condemnation? Satan? Actually, I guess he would appreciate it.


Actually we've been Commended, and we do appreciate it. :twisted:

Strong support for this, would be very pleased to see this pass, no reason a cheater should be on the books.
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Postby Fauxia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:49 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:Then it seems we have a bit more housekeeping to do after this one passes.

Full support, Kaboom.

Repealing Halc's condemnation is another planned project of mine after wrapping up this one, planning to use some of the same logic for that one too.
Halc being Halcones?
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:13 pm

Fauxia wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Repealing Halc's condemnation is another planned project of mine after wrapping up this one, planning to use some of the same logic for that one too.
Halc being Halcones?

Yes.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:38 pm

Because I lost Europeia's Delegate election, I'm actually going to submit this just after tonight's major to allow me to get back to the ERN quicker.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:25 pm

This proposal has now been submitted.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:10 am

We're at quorum!
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:16 pm

At-vote bump.
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Postby Ridersyl » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:36 am

I am the player that provided Predator to then-"tech modling" Eluvatar in 2015, and sparked the investigation further in 2016 by mentioning that the program required authorization by a Delete-on-Sight player to function. This, amongst other questionable goings-on in raiding at that point, is why I couldn't stomach participating in raiding anymore and became a defender.

We must repeal SC#127 (TBR), SC#165 (Halcones), and SC#194 (Kknight) as well, to truly remove these cheaters from having the recognition they do not deserve.
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Postby Consular » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:38 am

Fully agree with Syl. And it's great to see Kaboom leading the charge on this.

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Acktoria
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Postby Acktoria » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:55 am

Does Gest even exist anymore?
I think it's set that the name Gest can't even be used as it is "soiled".

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:49 am

Ridersyl wrote:I am the player that provided Predator to then-"tech modling" Eluvatar in 2015, and sparked the investigation further in 2016 by mentioning that the program required authorization by a Delete-on-Sight player to function. This, amongst other questionable goings-on in raiding at that point, is why I couldn't stomach participating in raiding anymore and became a defender.

We must repeal SC#127 (TBR), SC#165 (Halcones), and SC#194 (Kknight) as well, to truly remove these cheaters from having the recognition they do not deserve.

Oh hey, I forgot about KKnight.

*adds to list*
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:18 am

Acktoria wrote:Does Gest even exist anymore?
I think it's set that the name Gest can't even be used as it is "soiled".

Nope. The account of Gest was deleted, but lives on as Gest II. An account deleted by moderators is deemed "soiled" and is never to be used again.
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Postby United Islands of Evergreen » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:42 am

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this appears to be a resolution telling nations "If I'm bad enough to get condemned and then get blacklisted from enough raider regions, I can get my condemnation repealed". Please, please correct me if I'm wrong, which I know I probably am, but that is just what it appears at first glance.
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Postby Drasnia » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:07 am

United Islands of Evergreen wrote:Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this appears to be a resolution telling nations "If I'm bad enough to get condemned and then get blacklisted from enough raider regions, I can get my condemnation repealed". Please, please correct me if I'm wrong, which I know I probably am, but that is just what it appears at first glance.

It's saying that the only reason he was feared to begin with - enough to warrant a condemnation at least - was because he was using illegal tools to get a leg up on the competition. People like Gest almost got all of military gameplay banned permanently from the game. We should hardly be honoring their names by giving them a badge. They need to be wiped from history.

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Postby West Esung » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:29 am

Just another publicly stunt by the Black Hawks
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Postby Essu Beti » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:38 am

What exactly was the Predator scandal?
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Postby Ransium » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:40 am

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Postby Essu Beti » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:52 am

Thanks
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The Ambassador of Essu Beti is Iksana Gayan and he's an elf. He's irritable and a bit of a troll and it's been suggested that he's only the ambassador to keep him out of Essu Beti.

Everything I say in the WA is IC unless otherwise specified. Iksana is a tactless jerk and I would never say the same things he does to someone IRL.

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Postby Ridersyl » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:58 am

West Esung wrote:Just another publicly stunt by the Black Hawks

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Postby Willania Imperium » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:40 pm

West Esung wrote:Just another publicity stunt by the Black Hawks


How is this a publicity stunt? This is written by a famed SC and GA writer who is well-known in Europea. I don't see any connection between the writer and the Black Hawks. Unless you think anything related to the Black Hawks is a "publicity stunt," which, I'll state, isn't the most logical thing to claim.

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Postby Raionitu » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:10 pm

Willania Imperium wrote:
West Esung wrote:Just another publicity stunt by the Black Hawks


How is this a publicity stunt? This is written by a famed SC and GA writer who is well-known in Europea. I don't see any connection between the writer and the Black Hawks. Unless you think anything related to the Black Hawks is a "publicity stunt," which, I'll state, isn't the most logical thing to claim.

Even then there is nothing here that would lead people back to TBH except for the claim made there. Author is not TBH. Gest is not TBH. Neither the proposal or the repeal mention TBH. I have no clue where you got that this was remotely related to TBH, much less a publicity stunt. Some people just see the things they hate everywhere they look I guess.

In regards to proposal, full support of this effort, might draft up a repeal myself to save you some time. Keep up the good work Mr. Boom Man
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Postby Deimosan » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:30 pm

Gest doesn't exist anymore so why bother? Against.

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Postby Ridersyl » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:33 pm

Deimosan wrote:Gest doesn't exist anymore so why bother? Against.


The nation of Gest doesn't exist anymore because the moderators deleted the nation. Gest II exists.
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Postby Fauxia » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:20 pm

Ridersyl wrote:
Deimosan wrote:Gest doesn't exist anymore so why bother? Against.


The nation of Gest doesn't exist anymore because the moderators deleted the nation. Gest II exists.
Deleted for cheating using an illegal API script (weapon that violates international law), not some little flaming thing. They were banned from the WA for a year and (I think) got all their nations deleted (a puppetsweep). It's a serious violation of the rules.
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