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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:34 am

Crystin-Minokos - Administrative capital.

Tanninstel - Manufacturing capital, home to factory complexes the size of smalls towns. over 80% of the goods produced in Crysuko are made here.

Col Talsis - Home port of the Crysukon navy, as well as over half of our shipbuilding facilities.

Danuun - Tourism capital. a massive destination for international tourism due to the high concentration of beauty spots and tourst traps.

Senerra - A fortress city home to many venerable units and regiments, the nearby Aportik facility stored Crysuko's nuclear arsenals.
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Englium
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Founded: Nov 11, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Englium » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:42 am

1. Kimjack, Greater Kimjack - Capital as well as the biggest and most populated city. Very diverse and full of attractions.
2. Thaynough, New Cornwall - The biggest resort city in the country, filled with high class hotels, restaurants and casinos.
3. Astings, County Astings - A corporate yet very green town, not too far from the capital. If you'd like to see what happens when capitalism and environmentalism manage to clash and work well together, do pay a visit!
4. Gorthbridge, Gorthester - A big town in the North of Englium, one of the oldest in the country. It is known for its castles, historic buildings, and a gorgeous countryside full of rocky hills and waterfalls.
5. Barryton, New Essex - The most popular resort town on the east coast, fairly close to Kimjack. It is notorious for its huge sandy beaches, cute beach houses, and an extremely friendly and liberal populace.
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Gig em Aggies
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Founded: Aug 15, 2009
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:04 am

Top Gig em Aggies cities 2016

1.) Reveille City <- Capital
2.) Kyle <- Economic Hub/Largest City
3.) Maroon Park<- Famous for creating multiple National leaders
4.) Villa Del Rise<- Tourist/Vacation Hotspot
5.) Olsen

These 5 cities are the top cities in the country almost every year except Olsen which is growing fast and has its first ever placement on the Top Cities in Gig em Aggies list.
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Evea
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Founded: May 11, 2013
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Postby Evea » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:25 pm

1. Harrison -Nation's Capital - 5th Largest City - District Capital of Vina
2. Madison - Largest City - District Capital of Anouk: Cultural Capital (Evea's equivalent of Los Angeles), also due to close vicinity of traffic bridge connecting Evea to USA, Madison is a popular choice for American's weekend breaks due to vibrant nightlife and national legalisation of organic and soft drugs.
3. Rhode City - 2nd Largest City - District Capital of Rhodes: Infamous for high crime rates and gang problems in south-western areas of city and for being the first place in the country to have legalised prostitution (now nationwide). Despite this, it is also one of the most expensive cities to live in due to many company headquarters being located here and for having the best public transport and lowest pollution in the country.
4. Moorcroft - 3rd Largest City - District Capital of Tallulah: Notable for being the industrial capital of Evea and having the lowest unemployment figures.
5. Santiago - 4th Largest City - District Capital of Indianica: Located on southern coast + nation's best casinos and nightlife + short ferry ride to Bermuda = high tourism
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Pantopian Empire
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Founded: Apr 02, 2012
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Postby Pantopian Empire » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:19 pm

1. Republica: Capital and largest city
2. Loyola: massive sprawling metropolis, large financial city.
3. Usonia: largest industrial city
4. Karl Marx City: most beautiful architecture
5: Vitruvia: tourist paradise
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pro: capitalism, gay rights, USA, western democracy, pragmatism
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The Gamindustrian Union
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Founded: Jan 29, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby The Gamindustrian Union » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:55 pm

The national capitals (there are 2 of each)

1. Planeptune (Hyperdimension Planeptune is the capital of the Gamindustrian Union and the Hyperdimension, Ultradimension Planeptune is the capital of the Ultradimension, both cities are known for their high technology and are like Tokyo)
2. Lastation (both are known to be industrial hubs; Hyperdimension Lastation is also home to the largest air force base in Gamindustri, while Ultradimension Lastation is also known to be a scientific research hub)
3. Lowee (both are known to be cultural hubs and are popular amongst exchange students; Hyperdimension Lowee is closer to Central and Northeastern Europe, while Ultradimension Lowee is closer to Kyoto)
4. Leanbox (both are known to be tourism hubs in the same line as Antalya is, as well as shipping hubs; Hyperdimension Leanbox is also home to the largest naval base in Gamindustri)
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Vandario
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Founded: Oct 31, 2014
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Postby Vandario » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:39 am

1. Skoravik: Capital city, where the royal family lives.
2. Rivfader: largest military base in the country. Also historic Runestone in center of city/base. One the oldest, written in by paragon Rivfader himself.
3. Poltin: 2nd oldest city to still be inhabited in the country, and industrial power house. Said to have been originally founded by the God Poltin, who stayed behind with mortal kind, said the town sprang up around his Mead Hall.
4. Drottfader: former city capital, during the founding of the country, historically always been a center of administration.
5. Eliytres: largest port, and naval base, very large trade center.
6. Thorgvald: city on an island just off the coast of the mainland nation, high population, and also a large trade center also a strong naval base.
7. Kjølt Hjerte: a large and most northern city in Vandario, thriving industry of timber, and mining. City is rather cold though.
8. Magnus: a old city, that has heavy spiritual significance, in old myth said where the traveling god Magnus had made himself known, and bestowed wisdom to the people there, as well use magic to help people. Also popular with tourists.
9.Hemski: another industry city known for manufacturing, and having a very large air force base.
10. Dolvaholm: oldest still inhabited city in the country, said to be founded by a retiring dragon hunter. Was capital to one of the oldest kingdoms of the past before Vandario's founding. Today a historical, and spiritually significant city, many old relics of our ancestors have been found here. A popular spot for tourism.
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Andustax
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Founded: Aug 23, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Andustax » Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:24 am

Our first city is our capital, Romanus which is named after a national hero of Andustax. We have two more cities, Andustax was the original capital of the city but recently after a new leader, it was changed. Our other city is Odessios Upper which is just a city to be remembered in history after a war that destroyed the city.

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Leonorian Federation
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Posts: 278
Founded: Oct 18, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Leonorian Federation » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:54 pm

1. Leonoria-Vyšehrad (until 1986 Vyšehrad, then renamed into Leonoria, Leonoria-Vyšehrad since 2016) -- our capital, known for its excellent infrastructure (underground monorail, streetcar system, suburban railroad, bus transport) and well-planned road system following plans by the first dictator, Miloš Kratký.
2. Leniná Hora -- also known as "Athens of Leonoria" with a big Old Town district, a decent infrastructure and many bridges. During the 2016 coup, it managed to be a sovereign state lasting eight days. Biggest Czech-speaking city in the country (more Czechs than in the capital).
3. Sankt Georgen -- an old industrial city, also paved with memorials during the meantime. Biggest German-speaking place.
4. Sophienstadt -- a former sovereign city state integrated into the Leonorian Federation after the coup. While German-Leonorian dominated, the city is very multicultural, with many people of Russian and Oriental origin. Also a quite devout place with many temples.
5. Nahorná Osada -- capital of the state of Spojená Krajina, known for the biggest military gathering place in the nation since the integration of SK into Leonoria after the coup.

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Dahon
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Founded: Nov 11, 2015
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Postby Dahon » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:29 am

Tei -- oldest inhabited city in the insular Indian Ocean (at least 4500 years old); Dahon's largest city (both in size and land area), cultural and financial capital; home of some of world's oldest comedy bars; home to Dahon's leading newspaper, movie industry; bustling port-of-call, etc.

Hakurei -- center of Dahoni Budhism; site of "Great" Hakurei temple (also known [if obscurely] as Mima-ji, built in the later 7th century AD), housing in turn greatest repository of sacred and non-erotic secular literature in Dahon, probably in the whole of southern Asia (since the destruction of the library at Nalanda), known to Westerners as the Great Unmoved Library

Sabi & Saga -- the "Twin Mountain Cities"; Saga second-oldest city in Dahon, Sabi third-oldest; former centers of Hinduism for 1500 years till the first century BC, specifically worship of Shiva (coincidentally, Saga is almost exactly aligned laterally with with island of Sagar, located at the mouth of the the Ganges, thus an important Hindu pilgrimage site); twin capitals of independent state lasting to mid-7th century AD; centers of Dahon mining and forestry

Shirokawa & Horikawa -- the "Cities of Love"; resting place of namesake seventh-century generals, founders of the Horishiro family; site of the "Hachihashi" love pilgrimage
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Davinhia
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Founded: Nov 18, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Your top cities

Postby Davinhia » Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:12 am

cDavinhi CityThe largest city in the country. It is home to many businesses, and is one of the top 10 largest cities in the world, by both population, and land size. It also is a very green city, rating a perfect 100 on the "Keigan Green Index". It is on the Santos river. It is also the capital of Los Santos.

Grove StreetGrove Street is the second largest city, and is the Capital of the Nation. An odd name, yes, but during the revolution, the hq of the rebellion was a garage located on the street, and has since become the name after the revolution. It also encompasses the sub-city of Grove Beach, a large city that has beaches, and ports, becoming home of most major shipping. If Grove Beach is included as part of the actual city itself, and not a separate city, or sub-city, the city would be the largest city in Davinhia. Grove Street and Grove beach both achieved a 100 on the KGI

Lake SideLake Side is a small city, and is not as densely-populated as the top two, but it's the home to a lot of suburbia. The city and its suburbs are located on the eastern portion of the great Northern Lake. The city is the "Richest" city in all of the nation, homing a majority of the millionaires. The city also is home to the movie industry in Davinhia, and many wish to retire in the green city. 100 on the KGI.

HarrisburgHarrisburg is a small sized city on a hill, the second largest mountain in Davinhia. It's near the border of the purple forest, and the city is not given enough credit. It has a huge drug overdose problem, but the officials keep it from spreading outside the city. It's ranked as the 3rd worst city in Davinhia, and given a 48 on the KGI.

DavinGradA smaller city on the brings of Jungle. The city is huge on crime, especially after being annexed by a different nation, and then liberated back. Ranked a 14 on the KGI, it is to be avoided.

West JungleThe smallest city in the nation, it is mostly jungle, with a small beach on the western portion. Ranked a perfect 100, it is a haven for most travelers. Hot, humid, and has much wildlife, it's a great place to go.

Forest CityA city in the forest, a broad-leaf forest. The forest is a haven for travelers, especially in the fall. It is one of the more temperate places of Davinhia. Ranked a 85 on the KGI, it's a medium-sized city that has a lot to boast. It also hosts the largest wine festival, and is the main province for wine to be brewed.

Surf Side Surf side is a small city on the southern island, and has the largest beach in Davinhia. A huge travel place, ranked 98 on the KGI. The main problem with the city is the shark problem.

ArlingtonA military place, it has the second largest military base in the country. No one knows why it's military based, but it just became like that. Ranked a 52 on the KGI, it's not a great place to be, and shows some poverty and crime, but that's usually stopped by the constant gang-wars between the military and the gangs.

EastwardLocated on a shore, the main thing to boast about is their many great museums, and their beaches. It was the main sight for the war that was on Davinian soil, and so likes to brag. Ranked a 74 on the KGI. It also has the largest fishing industry.

Gulf CityRanked a 92 on the KGI, the city is a city on the coast of the Davinian gulf. The city has a lot of prostitution and marijuana dispensaries, so many stoners go there. The rank down on the KGI was said because "Too much marijuana smoke everywhere"

Vice CityVice city ranked a 69 on the KGI, is a sex-filled gangy place. Not as bad as the other gang cities, but has many gangs. Dominated in the cocaine trade, it leaves many people wondering: "Was this just another rip off from a Rock Star Game?" The answer is, yes and no.

Death Desert THeres no wonder why this is a 0 on the KGI and the worst city in all of Davinhia. It's a damned desert with a lot of wild west shootouts. Yes, it's cheesy, but trust me on this.

Fort PurpleNot really a city, but a fort, it's the largest military base in the nation, and has a perfect 100 on the KGI. There's no wonder why, as the military likes to keep the place clean, and is home to many travelers because the forest is purple, figure out why.
Year: 2013
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Capital City: Grove Street
RP Population: 45 Million
RP Military Population: 37 Thousand
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Socialist Techland
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Founded: Oct 24, 2016
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Postby Socialist Techland » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:13 am

TechCapital 科都 Tēkhkapitāl
Administrative capital

New Tennon 新铁浓/新鐵濃 Nuvēl Tēnnon
Financial capital

Diamond Point 钻角/鑽角 Pointē Ćuan
Tropical paradise

Hengchuan 恒川 Hengčuān
A big Chinatown

Vladgorod 福拉德市 Vladgorōd
For the Russkies


For natural wonders, just a few kilometres from Vladgorod is the Lake Vlad (福湖/Lāk Vlad).

Around a few hours from New Tennon is the Vorta National Park (伏尔达国家公园/Pārk naćjonal de Vortā). There, there is the 4000m Mt Vorta (伏尔迏山/Mont Vortā) and the 80m tall Zharvu Falls (扎尔伏瀑布/Žarvū Pubūk). Nearby, there is the ancient Khasar Town (卡薩尔/Khasār).
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世界大会成员,欧洲区域成员
垚界大會成員,歐洲區域成員
Mimbrō del Assemblē del Zemlē, mimbrō del režyon d'Ēvrōpa
Мимбрō дел Ассемблє дел Землє, мимбрō дел режён д'Єврōпа
People's Republic of Socialist Techland
社会主义科技人民共和国
社會主義科技人民共和國
Respūblik Populār de Soćiāliste Tēkhstranā
Респӯблик Популāр де Социāлисте Тєхстранā

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Yaosoland
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Founded: Nov 18, 2016
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Postby Yaosoland » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:27 am

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Banten Sultanate
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Posts: 275
Founded: Dec 12, 2016
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Postby Banten Sultanate » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:41 pm

Banten Sultanate's top three cities are:

.: Tangerang :.
The capital city of Banten Sultanate, which is administered as a province. As the largest city in Banten Sultanate, it is a house for 4 million people. It is also designed as a political, religious, education, commercial, financial, scientific, industrial, and cultural center for all of Banten Sultanate, in which all national matters are managed by the Sultan, the Minister, and all of his departments.

.: Serang :.
The 2nd largest city in Banten Sultanate and the capital city of Northern Banten. In its glorious days in the past, it had a role as the capital city of Banten province when it was still an integral part of the Netherlands East Indies. For more than 400 years, it had become a political, religious, education, commercial, financial, scientific, industrial, and cultural center for Banten province.

.: Cikawung :.
The "Tropical Paradise", the "Oriental Jewel", and the capital city of Ujung Kulon Area. Although it is not a large city in terms of population, it can be included in the top three cities in Banten Sultanate due to its economic strength. Its close proximity to the National Park of Ujung Kulon Area has made it as a center of tourism in Banten Sultanate which produce a lot of foreign exchange.
-= BANTEN SULTANATE =-

Capital City: Tangerang | Head of State: Sultan Mahfuz Daud | Head of Government: Minister Jiang Gang |

Classification: Capitalizt | Anthem: "Greater Sunda" | Motto: "Faith and Devotion" |

Major Ethnic: Sundanese | Major Religion: Islam | Total Population: 16 Million

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Ru-
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Posts: 1112
Founded: Aug 01, 2016
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Ru- » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:35 pm

New Ru: capital, largest city, home of royal family
Oceanside: 2nd largest city, entertainment and financial center on the west coast
Old Ru: ancient Ruvian capital, birthplace of the nation
Pargo: ancient major city, 4th largest, entertainment and vacation destination
Zamettar: ancient major city, 3rd largest, considered a twin of Pargo and Old Ru
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Welskerland
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Posts: 900
Founded: Aug 06, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Welskerland » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:45 pm

Tri City: largest city in size and population
Sorkono: Capital, monarch's residence
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Trosephstein
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Posts: 161
Founded: Dec 28, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Trosephstein » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:06 pm

1) Trosephstein City: capital, culture
2) Madeiro: biggest population
3) Gray River: shopping, universities
4) Whitman City: technology hub
5) Angeltown: beaches, tourism, film
6) Calvin Island: brewery
7) Sunset Heights: amusement parks, entertainment
8) Halston Harbor: giant harbor and marina
9) Halston City: longest boardwalk in the world
10) Oldchurch: a small, charming town brimming with rustic architecture...and a giant government lab deep underground

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Karamiko
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Posts: 444
Founded: Mar 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Karamiko » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:08 pm

Yenshida (population 400,000) - Karamiko's capital
Naya Kolkata (population 200,000) - The nation's largest port city
New Dublin (population 150,000) - Also a large port city and a tourist destination
Karamiko - the land of lush pine forests, adorable king penguins, cultural diversity, humanistic religion, friendliness, kindness, baseball, unisex looks, kalanta, and more!
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Kohr
Minister
 
Posts: 3231
Founded: Aug 24, 2015
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Kohr » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:13 pm

All our cities are pretty uniform and boring, but here are some populous ones:

Inside the Greater Coldport Area:
Coldport: 595,000
Broken Bay: 122,000
Southern Junction: 75,000
Old Coast: 63,000
Doverport: 62,000

Outside the Greater Coldport Area:

Koloise: 71,000
*Exponds: 64,000
Railard: 46,000
Fireford: 38,000
Allock: 25,000
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Olwe
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Posts: 4934
Founded: Jan 22, 2004
Ex-Nation

Postby Olwe » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:34 pm

Acceptance: Most populous city in Olwe (7,800,000 citizens); one of the most diverse cities in the multiverse (367 species represented); original capital of Olwe

Enchantment: Largest population of magic-users in the known multiverse (2,600,000); largest margin between magical and Muggle citizens of any known city (
39 magic-users for every Muggle); famous for its levitating buildings

Nariel: Capital of Olwe; counting unseen spaces (unaccounted for areas within buildings that are bigger on the inside), most total land mass of any known city in the multiverse

Hedonism: Most relaxed sex/nudity laws of any known city in the multiverse

Alqualonde: Home of the largest naval base in the known multiverse

Diamond Springs: Highly productive diamond mines which drive the Olwean economy and have been recognized in the Guinness Book Of World Records for the volume of their output
Founded: 2480
Current year: 5001
Magic: Non-negotiable
Ponies: Yes, occasionally
Tech levels incompatible? Then kick me out of the thread, because if you RP with me you accept my tech.
Note: Before 2480, Olwe was called Athan. If you see this word in a thread, it's because you mentioned a year incompatible with Olwe in that thread but still made it open to all techs and therefore are allowing Athan's magic.
RP population: 21 billion
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