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Postby Gmodia » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:37 pm

Didn't say they didn't just said EMP won't work on all machines.

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Postby Kyraina » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:40 pm

Gmodia wrote:Didn't say they didn't just said EMP won't work on all machines.

no offense buts thats like past star wars future tech and imagine the energy required to keep that form happening thou thats like having like a powerplant on ur back
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Postby The Grand World Order » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:41 pm

The GWO doesn't have ninjas. It has better.

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And when we do actually have to be in-person, why, we still have better than ninjas.

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See 'em? Exactly.



FUN FACT ABOUT EMP: If you shield yourself against weapons-grade EMP, you cut off the ability to receive radio signals o/ o/

so all your guys are lone-wolfing, which means no organization, which means easy win for the gloorioose Fascist Federatcion o/ o/ o/ o/
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Postby Kyraina » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:43 pm

never said i was a lonewolf
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Postby The Grand World Order » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:46 pm

Kyraina wrote:never said i was a lonewolf


No radio communications means no strategic organization, therefore you've got lone-wolfers and small units (or large, horribly uncoordinated ones) going up against a force updated strategically in real-time, plus the added bonus of radios in tactical situations. If you've got yourself so shielded against EMP, offensive operations (i.e. what ninjas would be best suited for) would be suicidal.
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Postby Sino-Japanese Empire » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:47 pm

Spies and Recon Guys are suited for wutwut?

Ninjas aren't super assassins brah.
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Postby Gmodia » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:48 pm

Sino-Japanese Empire wrote:Spies and Recon Guys are suited for wutwut?

Ninjas aren't super assassins brah.

:eyebrow: The Foot Tech are......pouts.

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Postby The Grand World Order » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:48 pm

Sino-Japanese Empire wrote:Spies and Recon Guys are suited for wutwut?

Ninjas aren't super assassins brah.


I know, lol. I was stating that hackers/SIGINT and maybe the NOC (who generally keep a low profile and get their info via extraction rather than direct force) are far superior to the ninja in a modern environment.
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Postby Kyraina » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:49 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
Kyraina wrote:never said i was a lonewolf


No radio communications means no strategic organization, therefore you've got lone-wolfers and small units (or large, horribly uncoordinated ones) going up against a force updated strategically in real-time, plus the added bonus of radios in tactical situations. If you've got yourself so shielded against EMP, offensive operations (i.e. what ninjas would be best suited for) would be suicidal.

we dont use any emp weapons expect for defense and thats at the do or die situation, and for suicidal missions well thats what our rangers are for and our other spec and black ops units are for
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Postby Sino-Japanese Empire » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:50 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
Sino-Japanese Empire wrote:Spies and Recon Guys are suited for wutwut?

Ninjas aren't super assassins brah.


I know, lol. I was stating that hackers/SIGINT and maybe the NOC (who generally keep a low profile and get their info via extraction rather than direct force) are far superior to the ninja in a modern environment.


Oh damn.

This is what I get for coming in at the ass end of the conversation.

Carry on.
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Postby Kyraina » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:50 pm

Sino-Japanese Empire wrote:Spies and Recon Guys are suited for wutwut?

Ninjas aren't super assassins brah.

my type of ranger and ur type ranger are probably really different from eachother
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Postby Sino-Japanese Empire » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:55 pm

I don't have Rangers. I have a unit called SHINOBI [I haven't figured out the acronym yet] that deal in discreet sort of things that Rangers were supposed to do when originally created as a unit. Over time I think the line became blurred and yeh.
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Postby Delanshar » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:58 pm

It depends on the soldier, normally for a standard army unit this would be the uniforms.

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Postby Hectane » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:59 pm

For USH army, Marines, and Naval Infantry, body armor consists of a MICH TC-2000 Combat Helmet, Interceptor body armor, and a M-25 semi automatic battle rifle.
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Postby The Grand World Order » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:03 pm

Kyraina wrote:
The Grand World Order wrote:
No radio communications means no strategic organization, therefore you've got lone-wolfers and small units (or large, horribly uncoordinated ones) going up against a force updated strategically in real-time, plus the added bonus of radios in tactical situations. If you've got yourself so shielded against EMP, offensive operations (i.e. what ninjas would be best suited for) would be suicidal.

we dont use any emp weapons expect for defense and thats at the do or die situation, and for suicidal missions well thats what our rangers are for and our other spec and black ops units are for


I was referencing Gmodia's claim of "super EMP armor," which is known as Faraday armor these days, and is a very real thing. However, that tends to, you know, block out radio signals, which are Electromagnetic waves, just like an EMP.

Also, I highly doubt you could field enough "rangers" and Special/Black Operations forces to conquer a country, especially considering that SpecFors and BOs generally aren't suited for conventional warfare, which is pretty vital to defeating a stable, well-built regime. Unconventional forces typically are used for just that: unusual situations that must be very precise and well-timed. Black operations are especially terrible at conventional warfare, since their entire existence revolves around keeping a low profile, much like a submarine. If a submarine exposes itself, it's pretty much fucked, but undetected, a sub can deal some heavy damage; the same applies for BO forces.

My SOFs?

Marine Corps Special Forces (MCSF): Unconventional warfare, guerrilla trainers, snatchers, long-range offensive operations, advanced maritime operations, also called "Blue Berets"
Army Advanced Parachute Service (APS): Dangerous airborne operations, long-range offensive operations, conventional warfare, fast-response, counter-terrorism
D.R.I. Special Reconnaissance Division (S.R.D.): HUMINT/SIGINT support unit, direct intelligence gathering (yes, think Sam Fisher you fucks), assassination, counter-intelligence operations
Marine Heavy Airborne Shock Troopers (HASTs): Shock warfare, extremely heavy infantry, diversionary force, advanced airborne force
Gedanke-Polizei: Secret Police, extremely classified, assassination, state-sponsored terrorism, silencing the Left Wing around the world, classical "dirty works"
Special Tactics Force (S.T.F.): The personal army of the Grand Commander, officially unrelated to the government or military, state-sponsored terrorists, shock warfare, assassination



New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Sino-Japanese Empire wrote:Spies and Recon Guys are suited for wutwut?

Ninjas aren't super assassins brah.


Clearly you have not met my trench ninjas

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They look French.
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Postby Kyraina » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:04 pm

Sino-Japanese Empire wrote:I don't have Rangers. I have a unit called SHINOBI [I haven't figured out the acronym yet] that deal in discreet sort of things that Rangers were supposed to do when originally created as a unit. Over time I think the line became blurred and yeh.

i thin ur shinobi and my rangers pretty much do the same thing then cuz my rangers try to do discreet sort of things all the time and they are the best of the best of my black and spec ops
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Postby Kyraina » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:09 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
Kyraina wrote:we dont use any emp weapons expect for defense and thats at the do or die situation, and for suicidal missions well thats what our rangers are for and our other spec and black ops units are for


I was referencing Gmodia's claim of "super EMP armor," which is known as Faraday armor these days, and is a very real thing. However, that tends to, you know, block out radio signals, which are Electromagnetic waves, just like an EMP.

Also, I highly doubt you could field enough "rangers" and Special/Black Operations forces to conquer a country, especially considering that SpecFors and BOs generally aren't suited for conventional warfare, which is pretty vital to defeating a stable, well-built regime. Unconventional forces typically are used for just that: unusual situations that must be very precise and well-timed. Black operations are especially terrible at conventional warfare, since their entire existence revolves around keeping a low profile, much like a submarine. If a submarine exposes itself, it's pretty much fucked, but undetected, a sub can deal some heavy damage; the same applies for BO forces.

My SOFs?

Marine Corps Special Forces (MCSF): Unconventional warfare, guerrilla trainers, snatchers, long-range offensive operations, advanced maritime operations, also called "Blue Berets"
Army Advanced Parachute Service (APS): Dangerous airborne operations, long-range offensive operations, conventional warfare, fast-response, counter-terrorism
D.R.I. Special Reconnaissance Division (S.R.D.): HUMINT/SIGINT support unit, direct intelligence gathering (yes, think Sam Fisher you fucks), assassination, counter-intelligence operations
Marine Heavy Airborne Shock Troopers (HASTs): Shock warfare, extremely heavy infantry, diversionary force, advanced airborne force
Gedanke-Polizei: Secret Police, extremely classified, assassination, state-sponsored terrorism, silencing the Left Wing around the world, classical "dirty works"
Special Tactics Force (S.T.F.): The personal army of the Grand Commander, officially unrelated to the government or military, state-sponsored terrorists, shock warfare, assassination



New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Clearly you have not met my trench ninjas

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They look French.

well bout 35% of our military is spec ops and black ops and like 1% of that is rangers and my military active is like 5% of my pop and my reserve is 10% of my pop but i mainly fight defensive so i normally dont conquer lands
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Postby Kyraina » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:12 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
They look French.

Hence why they are engaging in infiltration assault

they do look french and they would be quite notciable in my nation snice noone in my nation looks like that
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Postby Kyraina » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:43 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Kyraina wrote:they do look french and they would be quite notciable in my nation snice noone in my nation looks like that

I'd think their capacity for higher thinking and the fact that they don't smell of faeces and garlic would give them away sooner

we are very clean and we are very smart thank u we are the most clean and smartest in our region
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Postby Imeriata » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:23 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
They look French.

Hence why they are engaging in infiltration assault

Wouldn't their white flags tip the enemy off?
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Postby The Grand World Order » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:01 am

Kyraina wrote:we are very smart thank u we are the most clean and smartest in our region


You don't make a wee bit o' sense.
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Postby Lokemburg » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:15 pm

http://dvice.com/pics/liquid-armor.jpg

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:49 pm

Kyraina wrote:
The Grand World Order wrote:
I was referencing Gmodia's claim of "super EMP armor," which is known as Faraday armor these days, and is a very real thing. However, that tends to, you know, block out radio signals, which are Electromagnetic waves, just like an EMP.

Also, I highly doubt you could field enough "rangers" and Special/Black Operations forces to conquer a country, especially considering that SpecFors and BOs generally aren't suited for conventional warfare, which is pretty vital to defeating a stable, well-built regime. Unconventional forces typically are used for just that: unusual situations that must be very precise and well-timed. Black operations are especially terrible at conventional warfare, since their entire existence revolves around keeping a low profile, much like a submarine. If a submarine exposes itself, it's pretty much fucked, but undetected, a sub can deal some heavy damage; the same applies for BO forces.

My SOFs?

Marine Corps Special Forces (MCSF): Unconventional warfare, guerrilla trainers, snatchers, long-range offensive operations, advanced maritime operations, also called "Blue Berets"
Army Advanced Parachute Service (APS): Dangerous airborne operations, long-range offensive operations, conventional warfare, fast-response, counter-terrorism
D.R.I. Special Reconnaissance Division (S.R.D.): HUMINT/SIGINT support unit, direct intelligence gathering (yes, think Sam Fisher you fucks), assassination, counter-intelligence operations
Marine Heavy Airborne Shock Troopers (HASTs): Shock warfare, extremely heavy infantry, diversionary force, advanced airborne force
Gedanke-Polizei: Secret Police, extremely classified, assassination, state-sponsored terrorism, silencing the Left Wing around the world, classical "dirty works"
Special Tactics Force (S.T.F.): The personal army of the Grand Commander, officially unrelated to the government or military, state-sponsored terrorists, shock warfare, assassination






They look French.

well bout 35% of our military is spec ops and black ops and like 1% of that is rangers and my military active is like 5% of my pop and my reserve is 10% of my pop but i mainly fight defensive so i normally dont conquer lands

I suppose I could explain the flaws with this.

1. If 35% of your military is special forces, than they aren't special, just over trained under equipped regular forces.
2. Rangers are not a specific occupation.
3. If 5% of your people are in the active military and 35% of that are special forces, than 1.75% of your entire population is special forces, for a reference less than 1% of the US population is in the entire military active and reserve.
4. Special forces generally take a lot longer to train than regular forces, meaning that your country will have to spend more time and money per soldier on training.
5. The law of diminishing returns. Special forces are useful, in special circumstances. A platoon of navy seals could be expected to capture or destroy a lightly defended harbour during the night and escape, but a platoon of seals couldn't be reasonably expected to hold of a column of tanks. Even if your SF are much better trained than most soldiers, it doesn't mean that they are more useful. You could be the fittest person alive who has trained as a soldier for the equivalent of 500 years and you could still die from artillery, napalm, or nerve gas as easily as a 15 year old conscript.
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Postby Sino-Japanese Empire » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:02 pm

In fairness. Neither can a squad of riflemen. @ Holding off Tanks.
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Postby The Jade Clan » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:05 pm

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A typical Jade Soldier. The combat suit can provide a great deal of protection in combat.

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