Your nation's soldier's field armor?

[Kyraina]

... its a reliable gun but not in war

Is that anything like a boat that's reliable as long as you don't put it in the water?

i have a sks at my house and its very accurate and reliable havent had a problem with it yet

[-Ancient Rome-]

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[Whiskey Hill]

Hey Ancient Rome-

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Hey Ancient Rome-

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Okay? so what?

[Khazyan]

AP cause smaller cavity wounds and are insufficient to bring down 7 foot tall rubgy beefcakes.

And that is spectra and ceramic insert sandwiched between two steel plates.

8mm Mauser WC cored, duplex AP ammo.

trololol

Eventually you're just throwing money at each other. And really, if he had his point men wear those, then you would need basically all your men to use these ridiculexpensive bullets, AAAND new nick is rich as a boss, so he would have you beat. Honestly, I can't think of a way through that armor.

[Senestrum]

bullets costing a few dollars are much less expensive than lolzy armor costing thousands

[Khazyan]

What price do you put on the morale of your men, who would probably be all and then and then .

Seriously, would you not be terrified by metallic beefcakes grenadiering you?

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

bullets costing a few dollars are much less expensive than lolzy armor costing thousands

I assumed Nick's armour was mostly steel plates costing at most a couple hundred bucks. Also, the armour is always used to prevent bullets from penetrating, while bullets are used for pinning enemies down, on missed shots, and for killing enemy soldiers. If the average bullet costs $2, and it averages 2,000 rounds fired per enemy killed, than your army will average around $4,000 per soldier killed just with infantry weapons. Artillery shells and stuff cost far more and are less than perfect against Nick's dig in and wait, or dig in and attack later doctrine.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

bullets costing a few dollars are much less expensive than lolzy armor costing thousands

I assumed Nick's armour was mostly steel plates costing at most a couple hundred bucks. Also, the armour is always used to prevent bullets from penetrating, while bullets are used for pinning enemies down, on missed shots, and for killing enemy soldiers. If the average bullet costs $2, and it averages 2,000 rounds fired per enemy killed, than your army will average around $4,000 per soldier killed just with infantry weapons. Artillery shells and stuff cost far more and are less than perfect against Nick's dig in and wait, or dig in and attack later doctrine.

$2?!

The heck are you shooting them with? .50 BMG tracer AP?

Most rifle rounds cost <$0.40.

[Khazyan]

I assumed Nick's armour was mostly steel plates costing at most a couple hundred bucks. Also, the armour is always used to prevent bullets from penetrating, while bullets are used for pinning enemies down, on missed shots, and for killing enemy soldiers. If the average bullet costs $2, and it averages 2,000 rounds fired per enemy killed, than your army will average around $4,000 per soldier killed just with infantry weapons. Artillery shells and stuff cost far more and are less than perfect against Nick's dig in and wait, or dig in and attack later doctrine.

$2?!

The heck are you shooting them with? .50 BMG tracer AP?

Most rifle rounds cost <$0.40.

You are right, but it does add up.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

I assumed Nick's armour was mostly steel plates costing at most a couple hundred bucks. Also, the armour is always used to prevent bullets from penetrating, while bullets are used for pinning enemies down, on missed shots, and for killing enemy soldiers. If the average bullet costs $2, and it averages 2,000 rounds fired per enemy killed, than your army will average around $4,000 per soldier killed just with infantry weapons. Artillery shells and stuff cost far more and are less than perfect against Nick's dig in and wait, or dig in and attack later doctrine.

$2?!

The heck are you shooting them with? .50 BMG tracer AP?

Most rifle rounds cost <$0.40.

Meh, I was assuming we were talking about luly expensive bullets since Sen stated bullets costing a few dollars. Still, most bullets are not fired with the specific intent to kill someone and are used to pin down enemy soldiers.

[Zerkistan]

IN Zerkistan, you get chain mail, a Kevlar protective suit, and a bottle of Vodka.

[Galla-]

$2?!

The heck are you shooting them with? .50 BMG tracer AP?

Most rifle rounds cost <$0.40.

You are right, but it does add up.

Less than 1/4th of your stated price of a bullet.

Which means 2,000 rounds is now <$500, not $4,000.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

You are right, but it does add up.

Less than 1/4th of your stated price of a bullet.

Which means 2,000 rounds is now <$500, not $4,000.

That still doesn't take into account artillery and other crew served weapons, which are less effective against NN than most nations due to doctrine.

[Galla-]

Less than 1/4th of your stated price of a bullet.

Which means 2,000 rounds is now <$500, not $4,000.

That still doesn't take into account artillery and other crew served weapons, which are less effective against NN than most nations due to doctrine.

VT fuzed shells and anti-defilade airburst grenade rifles are effective against dug-in and entrenched infantry.

Not exactly a game changer, but it helps. Moreso than contact fuse detonated artillery and grenades, anyways.

[Isla encantado]

our nation soilders will sport new light weight armor with thick more reliable helmets......and a super duty air impact thunder gun.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

That still doesn't take into account artillery and other crew served weapons, which are less effective against NN than most nations due to doctrine.

VT fuzed shells and anti-defilade airburst grenade rifles are effective against dug-in and entrenched infantry.

Not exactly a game changer, but it helps. Moreso than contact fuse detonated artillery and grenades, anyways.

Even than there are simple ways around it.

[United States of PA]

Less than 1/4th of your stated price of a bullet.

Which means 2,000 rounds is now <$500, not $4,000.

That still doesn't take into account artillery and other crew served weapons, which are less effective against NN than most nations due to doctrine.

Not really.

Employ VX lol.

That said, Excalibur can land a round within a trench system, and a BGM-109 can do the same. Trench =/= make invincible to arty/other strikes anymore.


Underground facilities can in all likelihood be found with Ground Mapping Radar, and than hit with a GBU-28 or a MOP.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

That still doesn't take into account artillery and other crew served weapons, which are less effective against NN than most nations due to doctrine.

Not really.

Employ VX lol.

That said, Excalibur can land a round within a trench system, and a BGM-109 can do the same. Trench =/= make invincible to arty/other strikes anymore.


Underground facilities can in all likelihood be found with Ground Mapping Radar, and than hit with a GBU-28 or a MOP.

Underground facilities don't need to be that deep, or far outside of the area covered by the trench. Hell, just make a few areas covered with steel roofing and dirt to protect against air burst munitions, and use zigzag trenches to prevent a single artillery shell from killing everyone within 100 meters of the impact zone. Also, guided munitions are by no means a cheap way to kill soldiers, especially cheap soldiers like Nicksyllvanians.

[United States of PA]

Not really.

Employ VX lol.

That said, Excalibur can land a round within a trench system, and a BGM-109 can do the same. Trench =/= make invincible to arty/other strikes anymore.


Underground facilities can in all likelihood be found with Ground Mapping Radar, and than hit with a GBU-28 or a MOP.

Underground facilities don't need to be that deep, or far outside of the area covered by the trench. Hell, just make a few areas covered with steel roofing and dirt to protect against air burst munitions, and use zigzag trenches to prevent a single artillery shell from killing everyone within 100 meters of the impact zone. Also, guided munitions are by no means a cheap way to kill soldiers, especially cheap soldiers like Nicksyllvanians.

No, but if you absolutely need to kill them, and given NS Scales of Economy & Production, its doable.

Furthermore, just dropping a couple thousand rounds on top of the trench will do the job. More than a few will simply land in the trench on their own lol.

Destroying the fire pits, C&C Centers, Ammo Storage, Triage Centers etc. can easily cripple a defensive line, and from there you just need to breach and encircle.

[Chernobyl-Pripyat]

The 6B12 is the standard protective vest of the Soviet Armed Forces reservists, conscripts, moderate-speed, moderate drag units. the original steel plates have been replaced with tungsten disulfide plates. Armor crews,mountain troops and high speed low drag units use the older 6b3 and 6B5 vests due to their smaller size and lighter weight.

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Standard protective vest "Ratnik"/"Warrior". Frontal tungsten disulfide plate provides level IV++ protection, though the vest is heavy.

[Galla-]

Not really.

Employ VX lol.

That said, Excalibur can land a round within a trench system, and a BGM-109 can do the same. Trench =/= make invincible to arty/other strikes anymore.


Underground facilities can in all likelihood be found with Ground Mapping Radar, and than hit with a GBU-28 or a MOP.

Underground facilities don't need to be that deep, or far outside of the area covered by the trench. Hell, just make a few areas covered with steel roofing and dirt to protect against air burst munitions, and use zigzag trenches to prevent a single artillery shell from killing everyone within 100 meters of the impact zone. Also, guided munitions are by no means a cheap way to kill soldiers, especially cheap soldiers like Nicksyllvanians.

Depends.

I'm pretty sure the USA could afford to use nothing but TLAMs and JDAMs against...say...Luxembourg, or Haiti, or Fiji, or any other numerous small island nations.

Although you'd be hard pressed to find a nation outside Lyras or AMF that would make NN that equivalent.

[Wanderjar]

no but I'm saying that question outright on my own terms, do they put plates in the armor beforehand to fighting, or they don't?

They do. Plates take a bit of time to put in, so putting them in in combat is bad.

A kevlar vest has a plate inside of it, mounted on the front and back. You can remove the plates, but why would you? It's just simply assumed that a kevlar vest would also have the plating inside.

[Khazyan]

You are right, but it does add up.

Less than 1/4th of your stated price of a bullet.

Which means 2,000 rounds is now <$500, not $4,000.

You are misquoting me, good sir. I never said anything about exact price of a bullet, but that armor piercing eight-millimeter rounds would be quite expensive. I'm not saying you would actually need to dig around in your wallet to pay for a single bullet, but, as I said, it adds up.

[Strognovik]

Another picture of a Hraun trooper.
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The gasmask is there not just as a visual thing but also serves a real tactical purpose.
In Hraun, chemical weapons is allowed. Gas grenades may be used and the troopers wont be affected because of the gasmask.
The climate is also cold and rough with few tree's in the badlands and alot of cold harsh wind.
The army also favours trenches.

Blitz > Static Warfare.