Flag Burning

[Station 12]

The rebelling Citizen could simply leave.

Expressing an opinion is not "rebelling". A nation where people are afraid to express their thoughts quickly becomes a nation where people don't think at all.

JOY unit does not understand why this is supposed to be a negative result.

Station 12, what movie are you based off of again?

OOC: Station 12 is just supposed to be the worst possible place you could ever live in.

Though I admit that JOY unit is essentially the lovechild of SHODAN and HAL. >.>

[Solm]

Flag burning is legally allowed as long as the fire does not cause any harm to any citizens. Although, flag burning is extremely rare in Solm.

[Good Atheists]

Like in RL America, burning is the ONLY acceptable way to destroy a flag that is deemed unfit for use. However, it must be properly folded, lowered slowly and carefully into the fire, saluted and then allowed to burn in peace. Burning it incorrectly, burning a flag fit for use, or burning a flag for any other reason is illigal.

[Hohe Reich]

Like in RL America, burning is the ONLY acceptable way to destroy a flag that is deemed unfit for use. However, it must be properly folded, lowered slowly and carefully into the fire, saluted and then allowed to burn in peace. Burning it incorrectly, burning a flag fit for use, or burning a flag for any other reason is illigal.

Actually the US supreme court found in favor of a flag burner as a right to freedom of expression

IC: We decide, should i waste bullets and make an example with an uzi. Or do i use a pistol. Flag burning is Death.

[UberWeegeeia]

As long as it does no harm to anyone, it's perfectly fine with the government.

[United Russian State]

15 years in work camps, five years for burning allied/freindly nation's flags. No punsihment for burning falgs of enenmy states, in fact it's more than welcomed.

[Ermarian]

Flag burning used to count as lèse majesté in forgotten times; at one point, punishment was actually up to the personal whim of the emperor (and our historians generally agree that we've had some pretty sick emperors now and then). Defacement of national symbols still considered actionable (like slander, with statutory damages), but only if the emperor files a suit personally.

Needless to say, our emperor has better things to do with his time than be litigious. Therefore, burning the flag is utterly without consequences.

[Ermarian]

Though I admit that JOY unit is essentially the lovechild of SHODAN and HAL. >.>

Aw, not GLaDOS?

[Des-Bal]

People who invoke freedom of expression to burn a flag are burnt on the same principle.

[Fatatatutti]

People who invoke freedom of expression to burn a flag are burnt on the same principle.

In civilized countries, freedom of expression does not extend to murder.

[Satirius]

People who invoke freedom of expression to burn a flag are burnt on the same principle.

In civilized countries, freedom of expression does not extend to murder.

And Ranking, a portmanteau I just came up with that combines "Rand" and "wanking." I now define it as a blind belief in the whole notion that the strong do as they will and the weak accept what they must.

[Station 12]

Though I admit that JOY unit is essentially the lovechild of SHODAN and HAL. >.>

Aw, not GLaDOS? :p

OOC: I don't imagine JOY unit being very fond of cake :P

[Aezakmi]

'Deliberately defiling the National Banner' is an offence, considered to be treasonous slander and incitement to violence. The maximum legal penalty for deliberately destroying or defiling a flag or national symbol is a heavy fine and five years hard imprisonment, although permanent deportation is a favoured sentence. Historical cases of 'flag desecration' have been known to spark anything from vicious beatings to fully-fledged vengeful rioting, and in any public places flag-burners would be in extreme danger of being killed, unless the police got them first.

The flag is a highly revered object, and even trivial disrespectful treatment or violation of protocol, such as allowing a flag to touch the ground, or hoisting the wrong flag first, are considered legally punishable offences, although in practice such strict rules are rarely enforced.

[Phonencia]

if people want to burn a flag then how about they just GET THE HECK OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!
Gosh, Those people such and my country carries the death penalty. If they anger me enough then my royal guard brings them to me and i ritually execute the with my
Gold Desert Eagle 50. Caliber pistol While a crowd watches
Of course a few of the sissies out their respond with

[Fatatatutti]

if people want to burn a flag then how about they just GET THE HECK OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!

I'm sure people are lining up to get out of your country.

Really, why is it that the nations with the most idiotic penalties for nothing also seem to have the most restrictive immigration policies? Why on earth would anybody want to get in?

[Phonencia]

if people want to burn a flag then how about they just GET THE HECK OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!

I'm sure people are lining up to get out of your country.

Really, why is it that the nations with the most idiotic penalties for nothing also seem to have the most restrictive immigration policies? Why on earth would anybody want to get in?

Be cause while we are all rich hard working sucsessful people.
Yours are starving and broke. and will probably resort to canabilism soon
I HATE Communism

[DeusII]

People who invoke freedom of expression to burn a flag are burnt on the same principle.

In civilized countries, freedom of expression does not extend to murder.

We are not civil because we do now allow people to start violence and fires? Civilisation is when a citizen can fly like a bird on a plane, travel with speed by vast steam trains to mountains and read by a lake. Imperial engineering is the mark of the civilised nation.

[Fatatatutti]

if people want to burn a flag then how about they just GET THE HECK OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!

I'm sure people are lining up to get out of your country.

Really, why is it that the nations with the most idiotic penalties for nothing also seem to have the most restrictive immigration policies? Why on earth would anybody want to get in?

Be cause while we are all rich hard working sucsessful people.
Yours are starving and broke. and will probably resort to canabilism soon
I HATE Communism

The facts don't support your claim. Our economy is stronger than yours, our per capita GDP is higher than yours, our worker enthusiasm is higher than yours and our consumer confidence is higher than yours. I'm not saying that all of that is caused by your psychotic behaviour, but....

[Fatatatutti]

We are not civil because we do now allow people to start violence and fires?

I said that you're not civilized because you do condone violence against dissenters.

[Tetropolis]

It's kind of hard to burn flags considering they're a part of the scenery, they're not coded with healthbars.

If they do have a healthbar, then it's a mimic, kill it. RPG monsters are annoying.

[Des-Bal]

People who invoke freedom of expression to burn a flag are burnt on the same principle.

In civilized countries, freedom of expression does not extend to murder.

And Ranking, a portmanteau I just came up with that combines "Rand" and "wanking." I now define it as a blind belief in the whole notion that the strong do as they will and the weak accept what they must.

I would describe it as more conscious than blind. The strong do as they please unless instructed to do otherwise by a stronger entite often the government and the weak do what they must unless otherwise permitted by an entite stronger than the opposing often the government. As I believe in libertarian rule it would by hypocritical to intervene.

[Fatatatutti]

As I believe in libertarian rule it would by hypocritical to intervene.

People who live in a democratic society and profess libertarian ideals are often the ones who would be least likely to survive in a true libertarian situation - i.e. they're being protected from what they claim to espouse by what they claim to despise.

[Satirius]

People who invoke freedom of expression to burn a flag are burnt on the same principle.

In civilized countries, freedom of expression does not extend to murder.

And Ranking, a portmanteau I just came up with that combines "Rand" and "wanking." I now define it as a blind belief in the whole notion that the strong do as they will and the weak accept what they must.

I would describe it as more conscious than blind. The strong do as they please unless instructed to do otherwise by a stronger entite often the government and the weak do what they must unless otherwise permitted by an entite stronger than the opposing often the government. As I believe in libertarian rule it would by hypocritical to intervene.

Yes, but this competition of the classes, so to speak is highly distracting from the creation of profit. While those of merit do have full freedom to exercise them, having the strong oppress the weak only evokes Newton's Third Law and distracts from the actual creation of profit, through such actions as sale of flags to meet demand after some have been burned.

[Coccygia]

In my nation we let people burn our flags (not the white ones, though - we need those for our wars) as long as it's their own flag. But they are required to buy another one to replace it. This has been rather a boon to our flagging flag-making industry.

[Des-Bal]

As I believe in libertarian rule it would by hypocritical to intervene.

People who live in a democratic society and profess libertarian ideals are often the ones who would be least likely to survive in a true libertarian situation - i.e. they're being protected from what they claim to espouse by what they claim to despise.

Interesting assumption. Knock down the walls and see what prevails.