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Venezue
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Postby Venezue » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:06 pm

Technically your nation translates into 'Special Forces -Astan'
December 1985: Venezue is founded
December 1987: Venezue overthrows Slovenian government
March 1990: Venezue invades and conquers Austria
August 1991: Venezue fails to capture the Czech Republic
May 1994: Venezue captures Slovakia
August 1997: Venezue bombs Hungary into submission
June 2009: Venezue's nationstates account is created
December 2009: The Stalinist Territories suffer invasion and nuclear meltdown
March 2010: Martilia announced the reformed territories of Venezue and allows them independence
May 2010: The Trotskyist Federation is formed
June 2010: Fascist radicals capture the government building by a military Coup
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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:29 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Actually its a lot more than fabric, its your national Identity.

If your national identity is in your flag, that's just pitiful. Our national identity is in the people, in what they believe and how they live.

National flag is a Vital identity of your nation cos every nation has a meaning related to the nation for its flag. And flag represents what is the history of the nation or what is landscape or what is the culture or any thing which shows your nation.
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Fatatatutti
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Postby Fatatatutti » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:53 pm

Great Nepal wrote:National flag is a Vital identity of your nation cos every nation has a meaning related to the nation for its flag. And flag represents what is the history of the nation or what is landscape or what is the culture or any thing which shows your nation.

Actually, no. Our flag often confuses other nations. They think, "Commies!" and they don't bother to find out anything about our history or our landscape or our culture. Our identity has very little to do with what you think our flag represents.

That's the danger of deifying a symbol to the point where it becomes more important than the real thing.

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Ewa beach
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Postby Ewa beach » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:00 pm

Tiesa wrote:If someone in your nation was to burn your Nation's Flag would there be any punishment, or possibly any reward? Does your nation have any laws, or regulations regarding Flag Burning? Tell me about your nation's stand on Flag Burning.

In Tiesa there are no laws regarding Flag Burning, though it is highly frowned apon to burn the Tiesan Flag. Many who have burned the flag out of protest have been beaten to death by outraged citizens. When it comes to burning the flag of another soverign nation, reaction varies depending on what neighborhood you're in.

If someone was caught in our nation burning our flag they will be charged with the death penalty. If foreigners were caught burning our flag in their own country, we would possibly go to war with that country.
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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:05 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:National flag is a Vital identity of your nation cos every nation has a meaning related to the nation for its flag. And flag represents what is the history of the nation or what is landscape or what is the culture or any thing which shows your nation.

Actually, no. Our flag often confuses other nations. They think, "Commies!" and they don't bother to find out anything about our history or our landscape or our culture. Our identity has very little to do with what you think our flag represents.

That's the danger of deifying a symbol to the point where it becomes more important than the real thing.


But our flag has a symbol of our nation.
The red background is due to the fact that we will fight till we flow all our blood in the battle field for our nation, thus our flag shows our attitude towards our nation. The land scape is shown by the sun and moon. The moon is for cold (cos the moon is seen in night and night is cold) which is in top of our flag meaning we have very cold climate in the far north of our country and sun is hot thus symbolize that we have a warm climate in the south. And cold climate means mountains which is in north and warm is plains which is in south.
Do you see how much a flag can symbolize?
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Myakoo
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Postby Myakoo » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:35 pm

Flag burning is punishable by death in Myakoo, ever since . . . well, I'm not bringing that up again ;)

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Postby Swilatia » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:37 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Fatatatutti wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Actually its a lot more than fabric, its your national Identity.

If your national identity is in your flag, that's just pitiful. Our national identity is in the people, in what they believe and how they live.

National flag is a Vital identity of your nation cos every nation has a meaning related to the nation for its flag. And flag represents what is the history of the nation or what is landscape or what is the culture or any thing which shows your nation.

Our flag doesn't reprsent any of those. It was designed shortly after the revulotion, so we didn't want to represent the opressive monarchy which we liberated ourselves from. It obviously doesn't represent our landscape or culture. Besides, this whole idea of "we need to tell them everything" has led to some awful complicated flags which represent nothing except when viewed through a magnifying glass.
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Postby Peterbolton » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:39 pm

We believe in Free Speech, so if people wants to burn our flag they can damn well
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Postby Munichburg » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:40 pm

While it's not illegal to burn the nationalsozialistischen Flagge, I wouldn't advise doing near a Munich, or you might get attacked...

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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:44 pm

We don't really care. It's a piece of cloth. They could use it for toilet paper and we really wouldn't care.

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Postby First of Two » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:45 pm

In our country, burning a flag is a clearly defined political statement.

That statement is "I am incapable of framing my argument in a logical or coherent fashion, and am therefore resorting to attention-whoring. Please do not engage me in debate, as I will only be able to shout slogans at you."

When we catch flag-burners, we sentence them to a public mocking.
On the second offense, we tattoo the word "DURR" on their foreheads.
On the third incident, offenders risk being labeled "irrelevant."

This might not seem bad at first glance, but we disassemble irrelevant objects and recycle them.

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Postby Santheres » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:51 pm

It's a damned fire hazard. We are not going to have you burning things, especially not large things, in the middle of the street or a plaza. That's just dumb, and you have no right to endanger others with your reckless and frankly meaningless method of protestation.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:15 pm

Great Nepal wrote:Do you see how much a flag can symbolize?

But there's a difference between symbol and reality. A dollar sign is a symbol for money but it has no value in itself. Burning a flag has no more real significance than erasing a dollar sign.

Look at the misplaced devotion to flags in this very thread. There are people who would actually attack their fellow citizens for burning a flag. They're making the symbol more important than the substance of the nation itself, the people.
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Postby Amystris » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:39 pm

If someone burns a flag or other ntional symbol i face a decision:

Should I send in the Schutzstaffell with pistols or machine guns. Do I want to waste the bullets, or should I make an example of the traitors.
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Neo Israel
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Postby Neo Israel » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:42 pm

Neo Israeli law does not ban flag burning presently, though it is a hotly debated issue, and there is a powerful social stigma against it.

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Postby Spetsnazastan » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:12 pm

Venezue wrote:Technically your nation translates into 'Special Forces -Astan'

Wow, thanks for telling me something I don't know. :palm:

I'm not quite sure why you care what I choose to name my nation. I believe Spetsnaz means troops of special purpose literally.
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Postby Neo Israel » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:14 pm

Spetsnazastan wrote:
Venezue wrote:Technically your nation translates into 'Special Forces -Astan'

Wow, thanks for telling me something I don't know. :palm:

I'm not quite sure why you care what I choose to name my nation. I believe Spetsnaz means troops of special purpose literally.


It literally means "special purpose," and is a shortened version of the generic name for Russian special forces units.

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Rhodygana
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Postby Rhodygana » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:38 pm

In Rhodygana, every ambassador and public official is to wield a burning flag before taking office.

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Empire of Christ (Ancient)
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Postby Empire of Christ (Ancient) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:45 pm

Its seen as terrorism and you are beaten to death by S.S. Troopers with black batons.

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Postby Greater Rhodes » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:35 pm

Flag burning is illegal in Greater Rhodes and it warrants a fine of up to $100; this fine is doubled per account of flag burning.
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:36 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Do you see how much a flag can symbolize?

But there's a difference between symbol and reality. A dollar sign is a symbol for money but it has no value in itself. Burning a flag has no more real significance than erasing a dollar sign.

Look at the misplaced devotion to flags in this very thread. There are people who would actually attack their fellow citizens for burning a flag. They're making the symbol more important than the substance of the nation itself, the people.

How can you call a person a citizen when he don't have respect to the nation? burning a flag is a clear sign of opposition and possibly future terrorism.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:42 pm

Great Nepal wrote:How can you call a person a citizen when he don't have respect to the nation? burning a flag is a clear sign of opposition and possibly future terrorism.

The citizen is more important than the nation. We welcome opposition.

And frankly, it's ludicrous to compare flag-burning with terrorism. Somebody who would attack a flag-burner is much worse than a flag-burner. Somebody who commits violence against a person is much more likely to be a terrorist than somebody who commits "violence" against a flag.

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Postby Great Nepal » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:50 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:How can you call a person a citizen when he don't have respect to the nation? burning a flag is a clear sign of opposition and possibly future terrorism.

The citizen is more important than the nation. We welcome opposition.

And frankly, it's ludicrous to compare flag-burning with terrorism. Somebody who would attack a flag-burner is much worse than a flag-burner. Somebody who commits violence against a person is much more likely to be a terrorist than somebody who commits "violence" against a flag.

If some one wants to know about your nation they wont go to each person house to say what is your country like. they would see the flag and say that you are a communists. So see how much is flag identity of your country. And burning it is a act of terrorism.
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:51 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:How can you call a person a citizen when he don't have respect to the nation? burning a flag is a clear sign of opposition and possibly future terrorism.

The citizen is more important than the nation. We welcome opposition.

And frankly, it's ludicrous to compare flag-burning with terrorism. Somebody who would attack a flag-burner is much worse than a flag-burner. Somebody who commits violence against a person is much more likely to be a terrorist than somebody who commits "violence" against a flag.

If some one wants to know about your nation they wont go to each person house to say what is your country like. they would see the flag and say that you are a communists. So see how much is flag identity of your country. And burning it is a act of terrorism.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:05 pm

Great Nepal wrote:If some one wants to know about your nation they wont go to each person house to say what is your country like. they would see the flag and say that you are a communists. So see how much is flag identity of your country. And burning it is a act of terrorism.

I already told you that our flag says very little about our nation. And I already told you that violent people who attack flag-burners are far more likely to be terrorists. Stop repeating yourself and address those issues.

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