Flag Burning

[Fatatatutti]

It would seem that the fact that you have a government, however small and unobtrusive, should indicate the absence of anarchy in Fatatatutti.

De facto/quasi-anarchy?

We like to think of it as "relaxed".

[First of Two]

Or to put it more accurately, imaginary anarchies that exist only in the minds of anarchists may be non-violent.

However, all real examples of anarchies have been excruciatingly violent.

So, since Fatatatutti is decidedly non-violent, your logic indicates that we are not an anarchy.

Our logic dictates that you do not exist. It is therefore logical that we should appropriate all your resources, as they are otherwise simply lying around going to waste.

[Torek]

The world wuold be better with a nuclear fallout, but...... A flag will suffice.

[Free Los Angeles]

Law in Free Los Angeles permits flag burning. That does not make it a well received action, however, and you would be wise to burn the flag in a hidden or relatively sheltered location, if you feel the urge.

- His Excellency, President Joshua Jameson Long, Primus inter pares of the Republic of Free Los Angeles

[Imagio Dei]

If someone in your nation was to burn your Nation's Flag would there be any punishment, or possibly any reward? Does your nation have any laws, or regulations regarding Flag Burning? Tell me about your nation's stand on Flag Burning.

In Tiesa there are no laws regarding Flag Burning, though it is highly frowned apon to burn the Tiesan Flag. Many who have burned the flag out of protest have been beaten to death by outraged citizens. When it comes to burning the flag of another soverign nation, reaction varies depending on what neighborhood you're in.

Flags are symbols and there is no reason to pledge one's self to a flag, it is the meaning behind the flag. If someone does not want to be in Imagio Dei that is their choice, but they will not change the overall attitude of our country about the issues

[Fatatatutti]

Many who have burned the flag out of protest have been beaten to death by outraged citizens.

So your flag represents a nation of people who kill other people for expressing an opinion. That seems like a flag that eminently needs burning.

[DeusII]

Many who have burned the flag out of protest have been beaten to death by outraged citizens.

So your flag represents a nation of people who kill other people for expressing an opinion. That seems like a flag that eminently needs burning.

It shows a nation of people who take pride in their heritage and homeland - and want to defend it.

[Fatatatutti]

Many who have burned the flag out of protest have been beaten to death by outraged citizens.

So your flag represents a nation of people who kill other people for expressing an opinion. That seems like a flag that eminently needs burning.

It shows a nation of people who take pride in their heritage and homeland - and want to defend it.

"Defend" it by killing their own unarmed fellow-citizens? That pride is misplaced.

[Wainscoting]

Your average Wainscot will show his displeasure against a state action in a different way, such as writing letters describing his outrage, and maybe calling his MP as well. This is because the flag represents his country, and he is not angry at that, but at an elected official.

[The Adrian Empire]

Citizens (and Denizens) of the Empire are given the absolute power of freedom of speech, as such political expressions like flag burnings are legal. However doing so in public will result in a 500 denarii fine and 10 demerits for lighting an open flame in public. And if the flag is public property they may be charged with arson, theft or vandalism which may result in up to 300 Demerits (for a zero demerit person this could be punished by up to five years of penal colony service).
Citizens however near a flag burner will be horrified as most are former Imperial Guardsmen, most will begin to protest against their flag burning, try to engage the protesters in a debate over why flag-burning is fundamentally wrong and in worse case scenario, violently attempt to rescue the flag. As such flag burning is not a generally viable form of protest, especially when one could simply attend the public forum in order to spread their message without fear of fines and violent retribution. well without fear of fines and government interference anyway

[DeusII]

Many who have burned the flag out of protest have been beaten to death by outraged citizens.

So your flag represents a nation of people who kill other people for expressing an opinion. That seems like a flag that eminently needs burning.

It shows a nation of people who take pride in their heritage and homeland - and want to defend it.

"Defend" it by killing their own unarmed fellow-citizens? That pride is misplaced.

The right of citizenship is a privilege; by burning the flag they are rejecting their place in society and as a follower of the state; they do no want to be citizens.

[Fatatatutti]

The right of citizenship is a privilege; by burning the flag they are rejecting their place in society and as a follower of the state; they do no want to be citizens.

You're making unwarranted assumptions about what flag-burners may or may not be "rejecting". Maybe they're rejecting the abject depravity of a nation that condones violence against protest.

It is possible to reject the bad things about a nation without rejecting the nation itself. That's how we make our nations better.

One of the things that a lot of nations need to do to improve themselves is to come out strongly against those who respond to protest with violence.

[Des-Bal]

Burning the Flag of Des-Bal is punishable by 48 hours with zero protection from the law you get a target on your chest for two days.

Burning the flag of another nation is encouraged as flags are far more numerous than would and clearly more economical.

[The New Sith Lords]

I woldn't advise burning the Sith flag unless you like getting force choked.

[Paroom]

Burning a Paroomian flag itself is not a crime, it is just a practice that is heavily frowned upon. However, any publicly disruptive act with malicious intent is considered "disturbing the peace", and that lands you at least 4 months in prison.

[DeusII]

The right of citizenship is a privilege; by burning the flag they are rejecting their place in society and as a follower of the state; they do no want to be citizens.

You're making unwarranted assumptions about what flag-burners may or may not be "rejecting". Maybe they're rejecting the abject depravity of a nation that condones violence against protest.

It is possible to reject the bad things about a nation without rejecting the nation itself. That's how we make our nations better.

One of the things that a lot of nations need to do to improve themselves is to come out strongly against those who respond to protest with violence.

Our nation could not be better. We use the laws of our empire to stop violent protests - that is how we remain in the category of "organised states" rather than you with "anarchy flower love fest". The people who are burning the flag are going against what they know to be the rules of the state and committing treason against it; proof that they are rejecting their citizenship.

[Greater Weedania]

It's legal, but we encourage publicly washing the flag as a symbol of our dissatisfaction with the government. It seems like a more positive message than burning it.

[Greater Tezdrian]

A bullet in the back of the head before you even light the match.

[Imeriata]

He would be hanged if the government caught him or her and if he/she were caught by the commoners would a bit of good old-fashioned mob justice involving pitchforks and torches probably be the result.

[Greater Weedania]

Quite a few wannabe despots in here, aren't there?

[Fatatatutti]

He would be hanged if the government caught him or her and if he/she were caught by the commoners would a bit of good old-fashioned mob justice involving pitchforks and torches probably be the result.

As I said above, why wouldn't somebody want to spit on a nation as pathetic as that?

[Station 12]

He would be hanged if the government caught him or her and if he/she were caught by the commoners would a bit of good old-fashioned mob justice involving pitchforks and torches probably be the result.

As I said above, why wouldn't somebody want to spit on a nation as pathetic as that?

The rebelling Citizen could simply leave.

[Fatatatutti]

The rebelling Citizen could simply leave.

Expressing an opinion is not "rebelling". A nation where people are afraid to express their thoughts quickly becomes a nation where people don't think at all.

[Station 12]

The rebelling Citizen could simply leave.

Expressing an opinion is not "rebelling". A nation where people are afraid to express their thoughts quickly becomes a nation where people don't think at all.

JOY unit does not understand why this is supposed to be a negative result.

[Greater Tezdrian]

The rebelling Citizen could simply leave.

Expressing an opinion is not "rebelling". A nation where people are afraid to express their thoughts quickly becomes a nation where people don't think at all.

JOY unit does not understand why this is supposed to be a negative result.

Station 12, what movie are you based off of again?