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Postby Bellganamos » Fri May 20, 2011 11:54 am

Brigades are equipped with a battalion of GVA-21A Earthshaker multiple launch rocket systems and GVA-19A Punisher self-propelled howitzers. During times of war, divisions are attached a Fire Support Brigade, which provides additional SPHs and MLRS, but adds regulary towed 155 mm artillery. Mortars fall down to rifle company level.
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The ULS
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Postby The ULS » Fri May 20, 2011 12:03 pm

My nation uses a variant of the M270 MLRS that is designed to fire radar-guided rockets only. The relatively heavy population density requires that we use prescise munitions as opposed to firing on grid references.

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Postby Purpelia » Fri May 20, 2011 2:32 pm

Nydaria wrote:http://nydari.wikia.com/wiki/CMS-4S/T/A
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This weapon system is much like Purpelia's system, however, mine is smaller, more modular, and thus, more adept at being towed and mounted on trucks. The CMS also does not support direct fire, it is strictly a VLT system.

Well, purely technicly speaking I have to correct you on some points there.

My system is lighter and more mobile than yours in several ways. Firstly it weighs at only 750kg (minus projectiles) as opposed to your 1000kg (minus projectiles). In addition, the 750kg is the mass for the infantry version that comes with a standard wheeled mount just like normal artillery pieces (something your model does not seem to have) and that in it self allows it to be pulled by just about any vehicle that can pull the load allowing even mundane agricultural tractors or even normal cars to act as artillery transporters. And it can even be manhandled much more easily due to having wheels. Meanwhile your machine will require a specialized transport or at least a good sized truck to carry it. (Since your description on that page makes no mention of any sort of wheeled carriage.)

Next, my system is recoilless in that the exhaust gasses of the missiles exit the tubes in the back rather than being affixed into the ground like your model. This means that if mounted on terrain, it can fire from locations where yours would sink into the ground from the recoil and that when fired a vehicle the vehicle in question does not have to have any sort of strengthening at all. In fact, I would wager that you could even go as far as mount this thing on a Toyota pickup truck and fire on the move.

And finally, my unit has a much different approach to fire direction than yours does. The 9K1 Multi Purpose Missile Launch System uses physical traverse as opposed to electronics for the primary aiming mechanism and relies on the electronic and guided components only to provide course corrections mid flight when most of the aiming was already done by the launcher. This allows for much lighter and smaller projectiles (72 kg max as opposed to your 150kg max) while retaining all the accuracy and firepower required. And at the same time, it also means that the launcher it self has very little complex electronic components. Yes, there is the firing computer and the control for the servo motors but that is it. The system has no integrated datalink or complex target detection systems, these are left to external sources like a battery control vehicle or even ground spotters. The 9K1 Multi Purpose Missile Launch System only provides the projectiles and these than lock on to any target designation data on their own from the spotters. In fact this means that it can be used by even a relatively low tech force as long as they have access to basic laser target designators.


All in all, they are two very different beasts indeed. Yours seem to be a VLS cell mounted on a vehicle for long range bombardment while mine is a tactical short range missile unit that combines the capabilities of launchers like the BM-21 Grad with the capacity to deliver deadly guided missiles against enemy positions.

Also, I intend to deploy this in conjugation with normal artillery, not completely replace it. The gun still has a place in my army.
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Postby The Kangaroo Republic » Fri May 20, 2011 2:36 pm

Nydaria wrote:http://nydari.wikia.com/wiki/CMS-4S/T/A
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This weapon system is much like Purpelia's system, however, mine is smaller, more modular, and thus, more adept at being towed and mounted on trucks. The CMS also does not support direct fire, it is strictly a VLT system.

However, Purpelia is entirely correct, our systems completely replace the costly, large, and generally inaccurate gun artillery with missile rounds that can engage targets at range with pinpoint percision. Choice well made, Purpelia.

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Postby Eayn » Fri May 20, 2011 2:44 pm

The Royal Military of Eayn employs the use of several artillery pieces, most popular is the Type-52 Anti-Aircraft Vehicle and the Anti-Aircraft Battery.
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Postby Meratieres » Fri May 20, 2011 8:33 pm

152 mm Self-Propelled Artillery
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Postby Herminia » Fri May 20, 2011 8:38 pm

The M270 MLRS:

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The PzH 2000:

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The M777:

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The Flak 36:

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Postby Shin Nippon Teikoku » Fri May 20, 2011 8:46 pm

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The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Why? He still won't be able to keep up with most mechanized armies because his tanks are slow as fuck and have no suspension system. Makes victory all the easier for me, we outrange him, out gun him, and can outrun him with our artillery.

Meh I'm no artillery man and that was probably a stupid statement, it just seems that self propelled artillery would have easier time defending themselves in an ambush.


It is common myth that mechanised forces are more mobile then foot and horse.

Silly Americans learn this too late.
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Postby Amerikians » Fri May 20, 2011 8:49 pm

Shin Nippon Teikoku wrote:
Altamirus wrote:Meh I'm no artillery man and that was probably a stupid statement, it just seems that self propelled artillery would have easier time defending themselves in an ambush.


It is common myth that mechanised forces are more mobile then foot and horse.

Silly Americans learn this too late.


Mobile Infantry > Mechanized Cavalry < Horse Cavalry as the Afghanis proved to the Soviet Union on many occasion.

This however, is about artillery?
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Shin Nippon Teikoku
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Postby Shin Nippon Teikoku » Fri May 20, 2011 8:59 pm

Amerikians wrote:
Shin Nippon Teikoku wrote:
It is common myth that mechanised forces are more mobile then foot and horse.

Silly Americans learn this too late.


Mobile Infantry > Mechanized Cavalry < Horse Cavalry as the Afghanis proved to the Soviet Union on many occasion.

This however, is about artillery?


Is artillery not part of ones organic divisional structure?

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Postby Amerikians » Fri May 20, 2011 9:10 pm

Shin Nippon Teikoku wrote:
Amerikians wrote:
Mobile Infantry > Mechanized Cavalry < Horse Cavalry as the Afghanis proved to the Soviet Union on many occasion.

This however, is about artillery?


Is artillery not part of ones organic divisional structure?


Indeed it is but this article concentrates on that part.
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Valcluse
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Postby Valcluse » Fri May 20, 2011 10:08 pm

LG1 105mm howitzer:
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FH-70 155mm howitzer:
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CEASAR 155mm self-propelled howitzer:
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Postby Kelwona » Fri May 20, 2011 10:55 pm

The 35 Pounder Light Howitzer is the standard light howitzer of Kelwona's defence force.

Weight: 1,956 kg
Length: 6.8 m
Barrel Length: 39 calibers
Width: 2.21 m
Height: 1.73 m
Crew: 5
Calibre: 105 mm
Breech: Horizontal Block
Recoil: Hydropneumatic
Carriage: Split Trail
Elevation: -5.62° to 70.31°
Traverse: 46°
Rate of Fire: 7 rpm
Muzzle Velocity: 532 m/s
Maximum Range: 13,200 m
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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri May 20, 2011 11:35 pm

There are far too many different artillery and mortar systems in use for various applications for us to go into all of them here. Therefore, here is a link to our royal army equipment page, which includes them.
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Postby Old Sdrawkcab » Sat May 21, 2011 6:33 am

I'm working on artillery for my nation. But the Noiprscs tank is used by the Sdrawkcabian Marines and Army.
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Postby Romanium Imperium » Sat May 21, 2011 7:38 am

The Roman Empire utilizes a limited arsenal of artillery due to the small nature of the Roman Army. What is used is listed below.

Panzerhaubitze 2000 - Self-propelled Howitzer - 192 in service


Along with the SPH's which have become standard to the point of replacing most stagnant guns, a variety of mortars ranging from 30mm to 490mm [Stagnant positions] remain in usage.
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Postby Yohannes » Sat May 21, 2011 7:42 am

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Self-Propelled Artillery

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PzH AY1-H1
Role (within the Anago-Yohannesian Army): mobile artillery


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PzH AY2-E1
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Postby Wayward Vagabonds » Sat May 21, 2011 7:56 am

The Community of Wayward Vagabonds isn't exactly the most up to date on artillery and defense...so make-shift slingshots are typically used if any problems arise.

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Unfortunately they tend to break and/or damage the user.

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Postby Sterlingport » Sat May 21, 2011 9:13 am

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105mm quick-firing light gun
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Postby Malgrave » Sat May 21, 2011 9:16 am

Imeriata wrote:
Altamirus wrote:Meh I'm no artillery man and that was probably a stupid statement, it just seems that self propelled artillery would have easier time defending themselves in an ambush.

If your artillery gets ambushed so have you worse things to worry about, either that you entire army is in retreat or that you are stupid enough to deploy artillery unsupported so far ahead of your main army that there are people to ambush it there.


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Postby Sciox » Mon May 23, 2011 4:05 am

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M2102, Self Propelled Mortar. Twin 120mm mortar. On the remote weapons platform is a tri-barrelled .50 calibre machine gun

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M2104, Self propelled Gun. 155mm gun. On the remote weapons platform is a tri-barrelled .50 calibre machine gun

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M2105, Self Propelled Rocket Launcher. Modular Launch System. On the remote weapons platform is a tri-barrelled .50 calibre machine gun
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Postby Saiwania » Mon May 23, 2011 4:18 am

Saiwania only has around 200,000+ guns and rockets of all shapes and calibers, we wouldn't know the specifics, just that our defense budget currently has $10.9 trillion Saiwans available to spend annually.
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Postby Vinage » Mon May 23, 2011 9:47 am

Announcement From Vinage

The Grande Pai of Vinage has wished for me to present our Nation's artillery. I have honourably accepted and will present to you, kind nations, a few of the arms that we do use in this category;

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ZU-23-2 Mobile Surface to Air Artillery Gun

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D-30 Stationary Tank-Artillery

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Postby Xin Ming » Mon May 23, 2011 11:24 am

The Imperial Army makes use of the following.

Field Guns and Medium Pulled Artillery:

Ordnance QF 18 pounder or simply the 18-Pounder Artillery Gun; originating in the United Kingdom this ancient artillery piece has served with the Imperial Army since 1909 with much distinction.


Ordnance QF 25 pounder or simply the 25 pounder, again originating in the United Kingdom this artillery piece is probably the most famous medium howitzer in the world. It has served in the Imperial Army from 1943 with distinction.

BL 5.5 inch Medium Gun this medium gun is a field gun that has served with the Imperial Army since 1980 when it was abandoned by the United Kingdom. It serves with distinction.

Self Propelled Howitzers:

AS-90 (Artillery System for the 1990s) is a lightly armoured self-propelled artillery piece originating in the United Kingdom, it was adopted by the Imperial Army in 1998.

PLZ-05 or Type 05 is an indigenous advanced family of 155 mm self-propelled howitzers designed and built by the Imperial Army. It has just entered service.

A variety of light and medium mortars are also used, these vary in range of caliber from 30mm to 360mm.
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Postby Helghast empire » Mon May 23, 2011 12:57 pm

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flak gun

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extremely light anti armor mobile gun
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