Your country's military uniform?

[Bakakishtan]

Most military uniforms are made up of old Soviet and current Russian camos. Sometimes they are mixed around (ex: Flora on top, blue tiger stripe on bottom) We also use solid colors like olive or a dark brown color. Robes are also used as well as armor plating.

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[Oterro]

(Just a question; is there actually any point in giving your grunts camouflage? I heard NNick say one time that it was completely pointless for your basic soldiers, and I'm curious if it's true.)

Depends on how much time your basic soldiers spend cowering like some kind of cowardly cowards cowering in bushes, the cowards.

Having men armed with guns of an (optimistic) range of 50 yards in a disorganised mess and then giving them the ability to choose targets is a terrible idea, as well as being revoltingly cowardly. We'll stick to fighting in lines where we can look the foe in the eye while shooting his face off.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Depends on how much time your basic soldiers spend cowering like some kind of cowardly cowards cowering in bushes, the cowards.

Having men armed with guns of an (optimistic) range of 50 yards in a disorganised mess and then giving them the ability to choose targets is a terrible idea, as well as being revoltingly cowardly. We'll stick to fighting in lines where we can look the foe in the eye while shooting his face off.

Then yeah, camo's pretty much useless for you. Or, rather, it comes down to a matter of taste.

[Ferham]

Here is the basic, digital camouflage Battle Dress Uniform of the National Guard.



Here is the older, woodlands patterned camouflage still used by some NG Special Forces units.



Berets were considered for a time, but the soldiers polled hated them, and they were discarded from general service. They are now used only by Special Operations Forces.

[Maherra]

Mine would look something along the lines of this for police;

And like this for the Army;

I think the futuristic Halo-inspired look is rather popular

[Mayfaire]

The Special Police are the closest thing to a military Mayfaire has.

[The First Awesocracy]

Uniforms are for suckers. Awesocratic soldiers wear whatever they want.

[Raxar]

Yes, in Raxar's military a sergeant out ranks a leiutenant.
All drawings courtesy of Ottobear at http://www.juniorgeneral.org/

[Elizio]

Working Uniform

Type I pattern issued to naval militia; Type II (not pictured) worn by ground forces in desert environments; Type III used by ground forces in woodland/jungle environments. Commonwealth Guard units, unlike their Federal counterparts, have more leeway in choice of uniform. Most common is the Working Uniform or Combat Shirt in MultiCam, U.S. Urban and TACAM, but ones in Russian Ten' and Tigr are also popular.

Dress Uniform
See: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=93481&p=4649368&sid=07fcddab32033590d8860b530320d969#p4649368

[Saurisisia]

I'll post later once I have new soldier drawings scanned onto my 'top, but for now, here's a template of the typical male Humanoid Therapod soldier:

[M-Asgard]

Her is one Asgardian my son Thor has blessed.

[Khazyan]

You have camo? Feel like invading Khazyan? You will, at one point or another, need infantry in the North Phent province. The North Phent Defense Force wears white. Y'know why? Because it snows there. Woodland camo stands out like a sore thumb wrapped in dead grass and lit on fire, which also happens to be a makeshift torture technique used by the very same defense force. One of their less horrible ones, though.

[Lhazastan]

You have camo? Feel like invading Khazyan? You will, at one point or another, need infantry in the North Phent province. The North Phent Defense Force wears white. Y'know why? Because it snows there. Woodland camo stands out like a sore thumb wrapped in dead grass and lit on fire, which also happens to be a makeshift torture technique used by the very same defense force. One of their less horrible ones, though.

I fail to see your point. no one would wear woodland camo in a place where it would stand out. you're not the only one who can make white clothes

[Khazyan]

You have camo? Feel like invading Khazyan? You will, at one point or another, need infantry in the North Phent province. The North Phent Defense Force wears white. Y'know why? Because it snows there. Woodland camo stands out like a sore thumb wrapped in dead grass and lit on fire, which also happens to be a makeshift torture technique used by the very same defense force. One of their less horrible ones, though.

I fail to see your point. no one would wear woodland camo in a place where it would stand out. you're not the only one who can make white clothes

I'm simply ripping on ACUs and BDUs. The idea that an army would dare wear something so silly is... terrible. I'm simply agreeing with nick in that armies should use cheaper, single-color uniforms that blend in with the environment. Think about what the US is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Silly, silly digital camo. Marpat was a lot better than Acupat

[Khazyan]

I'm simply ripping on ACUs and BDUs. The idea that an army would dare wear something so silly is... terrible. I'm simply agreeing with nick in that armies should use cheaper, single-color uniforms that blend in with the environment. Think about what the US is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Silly, silly digital camo. Marpat was a lot better than Acupat

Well the thing is that our military is well trained and well funded so we can afford camo for each environment.

So is ours, (see our epic NS page) but is it worth it for silly extra expenses? Also, if you feel like being in Khazyan, you had better ship your troops new uniforms every month or so, we have a very diverse landscape (though all of it is FUCKING FREEZING).

[The Soviet Technocracy]

I fail to see your point. no one would wear woodland camo in a place where it would stand out. you're not the only one who can make white clothes

I'm simply ripping on ACUs and BDUs. The idea that an army would dare wear something so silly is... terrible. I'm simply agreeing with nick in that armies should use cheaper, single-color uniforms that blend in with the environment. Think about what the US is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Silly, silly digital camo. Marpat was a lot better than Acupat

ttly bro

(Just a question; is there actually any point in giving your grunts camouflage? I heard NNick say one time that it was completely pointless for your basic soldiers, and I'm curious if it's true.)

The general idea is so they don't get shot...

[Khazyan]

I'm simply ripping on ACUs and BDUs. The idea that an army would dare wear something so silly is... terrible. I'm simply agreeing with nick in that armies should use cheaper, single-color uniforms that blend in with the environment. Think about what the US is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Silly, silly digital camo. Marpat was a lot better than Acupat

ttly bro

Aight, maybe marpat = Iraq, Acupat = Afghanistan, but one in the other?

[Saurisisia]

ttly bro

Aight, maybe marpat = Iraq, Acupat = Afghanistan, but one in the other?

ACUPAT seems to blend well in rocky and urban environs, but out in the desert, MARPAT's better suited.

[Khazyan]

Aight, maybe marpat = Iraq, Acupat = Afghanistan, but one in the other?

ACUPAT seems to blend well in rocky and urban environs, but out in the desert, MARPAT's better suited.

Yeah. Iraq = out in the desert. Afghanistan = rocky, but less urban. So yeah. My point exactly. What if you just went for a dull khaki? That would work okay for both. Khazyani soldiers paint on their uniforms, though they will get smacked around if it makes them stand out.

[Lhazastan]

Well the thing is that our military is well trained and well funded so we can afford camo for each environment.

So is ours, (see our epic NS page) but is it worth it for silly extra expenses? Also, if you feel like being in Khazyan, you had better ship your troops new uniforms every month or so, we have a very diverse landscape (though all of it is FUCKING FREEZING).

most real world militaries manage multiple uniforms just fine. you wouldn't need new ones every month, you only need one per design. and they're ridiculously cheap to produce, too

edit: and paint would cost so much more, so you should stop arguing for lower costs

[The Soviet Technocracy]

ttly bro

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Aight, maybe marpat = Iraq, Acupat = Afghanistan, but one in the other?

ACU is heavily biased towards mountain and desert urban environments.

Kinda like Iraq, A-Stan, etc. It's not supposed to blend into European foliage we're not fighting the Soviets anymore we're fighting ragheads. And yes ofc it's going to be less than ideal in all environments and yes MARPAT will utterly rape it in woodland, and desert because that's what MARPAT is designed for. The thing is, the Marine Corps is a Corps. It's not even a field army, it's 200,000 or so soldiers. that's not a lot uniforms and that's not a lot of logistics upkeep.

The Army is different. It's a big, green, pot bellied fighting machine that has a bit of trouble delivering the necessary goods to it's soldiers in the field because it fields units twice the size of the USMC like nothing. That's a lot more uniforms to keep track of, and sometimes units are deployed straight from Europe to Kuwait without ever switching out camouflage, making troops in olive drab Abrams tanks and M81 Woodland stick out like sore thumbs against the sandy Iraqi desert.

The whole idea behind universal camouflage is to be a decent, jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none deal where the Army doesn't have to worry about whether it's boys got all their DCUs or all their BDUs set for the right environment, since there's only one ACU.

Lazy? You bet. Cost effective? Damn straight. Intelligent? Sure. Best choice for all situations and circumstances? Hell no, but the Army says it beats the alternative of having troops run around in Arctic camouflage on the Korean peninsula while using M81 Woodland in the Iraqi desert, and fighting Russians with DCUs.

So is ours, (see our epic NS page) but is it worth it for silly extra expenses? Also, if you feel like being in Khazyan, you had better ship your troops new uniforms every month or so, we have a very diverse landscape (though all of it is FUCKING FREEZING).

most real world militaries manage multiple uniforms just fine. you wouldn't need new ones every month, you only need one per design. and they're ridiculously cheap to produce, too

edit: and paint would cost so much more, so you should stop arguing for lower costs

Most real world militaries don't maintain standing forces on every single continent on this planet and have to rotate them between operational theatres on short notice to respond to a crisis.

[Khazyan]

So is ours, (see our epic NS page) but is it worth it for silly extra expenses? Also, if you feel like being in Khazyan, you had better ship your troops new uniforms every month or so, we have a very diverse landscape (though all of it is FUCKING FREEZING).

most real world militaries manage multiple uniforms just fine. you wouldn't need new ones every month, you only need one per design. and they're ridiculously cheap to produce, too

edit: and paint would cost so much more, so you should stop arguing for lower costs

They supply their own paint. It's not gov. issued.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

We paint. On our uniforms.

More expensive than just using something like Multicam or even MARPAT. Also, say "hi" night vision calibration target.

Paint would stand out like a sore thumb against any decent night vision systems, tbh.

[Khazyan]

We paint. On our uniforms.

More expensive than just using something like Multicam or even MARPAT.

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[Lhazastan]

most real world militaries manage multiple uniforms just fine. you wouldn't need new ones every month, you only need one per design. and they're ridiculously cheap to produce, too

edit: and paint would cost so much more, so you should stop arguing for lower costs

They supply their own paint. It's not gov. issued.

that doesn't really change anything. you're perfectly capable of having soldiers supply their own uniforms, too. still a whole lot cheaper