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Postby Dazchan » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:01 pm

The Glorious State of Dazchan has no official military, and as such, no military uniforms.
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Postby Deadviapool » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:04 pm

something like my costume

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Postby Creativenameia » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:11 pm

We no longer have a standing military. Our last uniform looked like this:
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Postby New Korongo » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:48 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Helmets are for cowards who hide in trenches. The only infantry who should wear helmets are combat engineers, sappers and bombardiers, since they particular lines of work often involve construction and engineering.

the brain damage in your soldiers disagrees

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Postby Estusia » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:29 am

This. Just this.

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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:38 am

New Korongo wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Helmets are for cowards who hide in trenches. The only infantry who should wear helmets are combat engineers, sappers and bombardiers, since they particular lines of work often involve construction and engineering.

the brain damage in your soldiers disagrees


He is FT. Any brain damage is repaired by brass, cog, and steam powered nanorobots.
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Postby Sciox » Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:03 am

Travda wrote:We had a recent incident where our WA Representative pulled out a shotgun in the Assembly's chamber. Foreign Minister Karakov was...unprepared for meeting Artorrios o SouthWoods, the Chairbear of the Bears Armed Mission to the WA . Karakov, seeing the ursine delegate for the first time, mistook him for an actual bear. So he did what any person would do when confronted with a bear in the middle of an international meeting; he tried to shoot him.

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Postby Conscentia » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:34 am

Main:
Helmet: http://doodleaday.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/doodle-580-clone-trooper.jpg (Like this but matches the colour of the armour.)
Armour: http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/Skulpturen/sauronstatue014.jpg (ignore the Helmet...the armour is the important part.)

Alternate:
Entire uniform: http://www.starwars.com/episode-v/bts/article/f20061019/img/6_bg.jpg
[Note: The helmet of the main armour may be used too.]

Airforce/Navy:
Helmet: http://doodleaday.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/doodle-580-clone-trooper.jpg (Like this but matches the colour of the armour.)
Armour: http://www.starwars.com/episode-v/bts/article/f20061019/img/6_bg.jpg (ignore the Helmet...the armour is the important part.)

As our army is mainly used to deter war the uniform is mainly ceremonial. In battle the alternate armour is more likely to be used as it is cheaper to produce.
In combat the only people like to were the main armour are the higher ranking soldiers.
The main armour is more resistant to damage and it's helmet can be hooked to an oxygen supply and contains an in-built gas mask. The main armour's helmet can also allow you breathe under-water without an external oxygen supply but as water contains less oxygen than air and pure oxygen can cause harm, it is not recommended you stay under-water for too long. The under-water breathing feature is just to allow you to continue being alive even after your external oxygen supply runs out or if your do not have one and your ship capsizes or something.
The alternate helmet lacks many special features. [EG: no gas-mask, no under-water breathing function, no external oxygen supply] but it is much lighter and receives/sends data much better. This makes it more useful to some types of soldier...a scout for example.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:04 pm

Altamirus wrote:Camo hat. You need it. Else it'll just make you head stand out and reveaql and get you more likely to get shot in the head.

Camo isn't a cloak of invisibility. It's only intended to make you less noticeable and to break up your outline so the enemy doesn't know where to shoot.

Most soldiers can't make a head shot under ideal conditions, much less in the bush. A red coat is a bad idea but a red beret isn't particularly dangerous. And it looks cool.

If you want to protect your head, wear a helmet, not a hat.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, 99th Air Cavalry Brigade
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:11 pm

New Korongo wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Helmets are for cowards who hide in trenches. The only infantry who should wear helmets are combat engineers, sappers and bombardiers, since they particular lines of work often involve construction and engineering.

the brain damage in your soldiers disagrees

Anybody who takes a .69-.75 caliber slug traveling at the speeds linear muskets produce is dead. Helmet or not.

Thus, why bother with them? That and it unnerves and upsets our standard FT opponents, such as the sloodless Soviet heathens.

*Proceeds to mock Kat's helmets.*
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:17 pm

Altamirus wrote:
Fatatatutti wrote:Camo isn't a cloak of invisibility. It's only intended to make you less noticeable and to break up your outline so the enemy doesn't know where to shoot.

Most soldiers can't make a head shot under ideal conditions, much less in the bush. A red coat is a bad idea but a red beret isn't particularly dangerous. And it looks cool.

If you want to protect your head, wear a helmet, not a hat.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, 99th Air Cavalry Brigade

Bright fucking red when you've went to all the trouble of concealing yourself is a bad idea and that static depends on ranges and training. Also if the soldier can't hit the guy in the head it still makes it awfully easy to identify that get a more specialized role buddy that can.

Considering the hat in question is a beret anyway, quite possibly the most hated of all military hats, the soldier in question would probably be better off just ditching the damn thing and making himself a leaf hat.
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Postby Oterro » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:19 pm

Altamirus wrote:
Fatatatutti wrote:Camo isn't a cloak of invisibility. It's only intended to make you less noticeable and to break up your outline so the enemy doesn't know where to shoot.

Most soldiers can't make a head shot under ideal conditions, much less in the bush. A red coat is a bad idea but a red beret isn't particularly dangerous. And it looks cool.

If you want to protect your head, wear a helmet, not a hat.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, 99th Air Cavalry Brigade

Bright fucking red when you've went to all the trouble of concealing yourself is a bad idea and that static depends on ranges and training. Also if the soldier can't hit the guy in the head it still makes it awfully easy to identify that get a more specialized role buddy that can.


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Postby Conscentia » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:26 pm

Camouflage is useless if your enemies have devices that give them hyperspectral vision...So we don't bother using any...the colour of the armour shows which rank/type of soldier that person is.
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Postby Adaptus » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:30 pm

This is why people wear helmets!

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This guy was shot three times in the head with 7.62x39mm rounds, and suffered nothing but a mild headache. So those who say helmets are for cowards are fools. Helmets also protect you against debris and from shock damage, for example the blast from a grenade.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:38 pm

Adaptus wrote:This is why people wear helmets!



This guy was shot three times in the head with 7.62x39mm rounds, and suffered nothing but a mild headache. So those who say helmets are for cowards are fools. Helmets also protect you against debris and from shock damage, for example the blast from a grenade.

Now lets add up all the figures of soldiers who died because they poked their heads around a corner thinking "Oh, surely my helmet will prote-"
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Postby Fatatatutti » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:47 pm

Altamirus wrote:Bright fucking red when you've went to all the trouble of concealing yourself....

As I said, perfect concealment is NOT the purpose of camouflage and as somebody else said, perfect protection is NOT the purpose of helmets. All either can do is give you an edge.

In life, as opposed to video games, we don't take every edge we're offered. We weigh the pros and cons of each and sometimes we take our chances.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, 99th Air Cavalry Brigade

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Postby Imeriata » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:50 pm

Altamirus wrote:Bright fucking red when you've went to all the trouble of concealing yourself is a bad idea and that static depends on ranges and training. Also if the soldier can't hit the guy in the head it still makes it awfully easy to identify that get a more specialized role buddy that can.

The camoflauge itself makes him stick out too, I should make it in lighter and greener colours if you wanted to blend in, in a jungle .
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Postby Khytenna » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:59 pm

Karskonia wrote:The following image depicts the latest camouflage uniform, with the red beret identifying the soldier as a member of the Karskonian Special Forces.


The soldier is equipped with a Russian-made VSS to aid in stealthy target neutralisation.


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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:05 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:Camo isn't a cloak of invisibility. It's only intended to make you less noticeable and to break up your outline so the enemy doesn't know where to shoot.

Most soldiers can't make a head shot under ideal conditions, much less in the bush. A red coat is a bad idea but a red beret isn't particularly dangerous. And it looks cool.

If you want to protect your head, wear a helmet, not a hat.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, 99th Air Cavalry Brigade

Still, the beret is both noticeable, and offers no protection. Sure the enemy might not actually score a head shot, but they may shoot just below the beret and punch a hole in your jugular, or heart, or lung. A red arm band or something isn't bad, but head or torso gear that is a bright color is a bad idea since once someone can see the head or torso they can rather easily guess where everything else of importance is. A red badge on your chest? Aim in that general area and you will likely score a good hit. A red helmet or hat? The body is generally below the head, so scoring a head or body shot isn't too hard. A red arm band? Well you can hit their arm, or guess where their torso is.

Also, unless you are like NN and the purpose of each soldier is to motivate the man behind him, you should take any advantage you can get.
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Postby BorderWorlds » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:16 pm

All branches wear the Nanosuit 2.

Navy and Air Force version.
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... t_0008.jpg)
Army and Marines version
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Postby Fatatatutti » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:50 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:A red arm band or something isn't bad, but head or torso gear that is a bright color is a bad idea since once someone can see the head or torso they can rather easily guess where everything else of importance is.

When you see something red in the jungle, it's more likely to be a bird or a flower than a beret. If you shoot at everything red, you'll run out of ammunition pretty fast and you'll give your position away even faster.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, 99th Air Cavalry Brigade

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:00 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:A red arm band or something isn't bad, but head or torso gear that is a bright color is a bad idea since once someone can see the head or torso they can rather easily guess where everything else of importance is.

When you see something red in the jungle, it's more likely to be a bird or a flower than a beret. If you shoot at everything red, you'll run out of ammunition pretty fast and you'll give your position away even faster.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, 99th Air Cavalry Brigade

Using that logic a soldier should always shoot at anything they think might be a soldier first and later think about it. See something moving and shoot it? Oh it was a tree branch? Hear a sound and shoot in that direction? Turns out that it was a tree sloth. Also, a red beret is a giveaway. You don't shoot at it, you look at it for a second and decide whether or not to shoot at it. Generally it only takes a seconds to find out whether something is a beret or a bird. Beyond that, camo breaks up an individual's outline, making it harder to see their exact position, and thus hit them in a fire fight, a red beret gives away your exact position.
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Postby Oterro » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:04 pm

(Just a question; is there actually any point in giving your grunts camouflage? I heard NNick say one time that it was completely pointless for your basic soldiers, and I'm curious if it's true.)
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Postby Fatatatutti » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:09 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Generally it only takes a seconds to find out whether something is a beret or a bird.

:lol: You're optimistic. While you're bird-watching, somebody may have his sights on you. (Some units are fond of leaving scraps of red flannel hanging on tree branches as decoys.)

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, 99th Air Cavalry Brigade

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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:12 pm

Oterro wrote:(Just a question; is there actually any point in giving your grunts camouflage? I heard NNick say one time that it was completely pointless for your basic soldiers, and I'm curious if it's true.)

Depends on how much time your basic soldiers spend cowering like some kind of cowardly cowards cowering in bushes, the cowards.
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