Nationstates Military Table (MT) Beta

[Drvarska]

All accepted and updated.

[Droktvan]

Nation Name: Empire of Droktvan
Population: 5,000,000
Defense Budget: $1,000,000,000 (USD)
Military Size: 1.25 Million
Active Troops: 700,000 Thousand
Reserve Forces: 450,000 Thousand
Paramilitary: 100,000 Thousand
% of Pop.: 25%

[Grays Harbor]

Nation Name: Empire of Droktvan
Population: 5,000,000
Defense Budget: $1,000,000,000 (USD)
Military Size: 1.25 Million
Active Troops: 700,000 Thousand
Reserve Forces: 450,000 Thousand
Paramilitary: 100,000 Thousand
% of Pop.: 25%

25% ??

you realize that standard is between 1-3% ? maybe up to 6% in a total all out no holds barred war?

[Grays Harbor]

Here is a listing of many RW armed forces to give some folk an idea of what something approaching reality (i.e. not god-modding) is.

[Drvarska]

Nation Name: Empire of Droktvan
Population: 5,000,000
Defense Budget: $1,000,000,000 (USD)
Military Size: 1.25 Million
Active Troops: 700,000 Thousand
Reserve Forces: 450,000 Thousand
Paramilitary: 100,000 Thousand
% of Pop.: 25%

Not accepted. Percentage too high for any nation to handle. Please refer to what Grays Harbor has suggested.

[Alfegos]

Just a pointer to you Drvarska - I do NOT use NSEconomy, or any other calculator, to RP my nation. I do not even use the information given on the page of my nation, save for the flag, and the TG system. Thus, I can actually roleplay without stupid population, stupid landmass area, and stupid amounts of money.
:-D

If you want to put me up on the table, then throw in the cadets with the military reserves. And Æ1 is worth $0.81.
:-D

EDIT!

I didn't read the idea of it being only the Army... thought it was all the armed forces. Back to the drawing board, eh?...
Nation Name: People's Nation of Alfegos
Population: 331 500 000 (Excluding colonies), 42 800 000 (colonies only, excluding Neo'ilos/Oraz joint territory)
Defence Budget: $
Military Size: 6.2 million (all armed forces) 2.1 million (Alfegan & Colonial Armies)
Active Troops: 300 000 (excluding logistics), 750 000 (including logistcs & non-combat arms)
Reserve Forces: 1 250 000 (including Whiteshield cadets)
Paramilitary: 100 000 (ISS)
% of Pop.: 2ish (all military) 0.8 ish (Army alone)

[Grays Harbor]

Just a pointer to you Drvarska - I do NOT use NSEconomy, or any other calculator, to RP my nation. I do not even use the information given on the page of my nation, save for the flag, and the TG system. Thus, I can actually roleplay without stupid population, stupid landmass area, and stupid amounts of money.
:-D

there is also nothing forcing you to post here, either. many of us use 2 sets of standards. I use a realistic population (and everything else) for when I RP in my home region, and use the inflated NS stats if and when I ever RP here.

I didn't read the idea of it being only the Army... thought it was all the armed forces. Back to the drawing board, eh?...
Nation Name: People's Nation of Alfegos
Population: 331 500 000 (Excluding colonies), 42 800 000 (colonies only, excluding Neo'ilos/Oraz joint territory)
Defence Budget: $
Military Size: 6.2 million (all armed forces) 2.1 million (Alfegan & Colonial Armies)
Active Troops: 300 000 (excluding logistics), 750 000 (including logistcs & non-combat arms)
Reserve Forces: 1 250 000 (including Whiteshield cadets)
Paramilitary: 100 000 (ISS)
% of Pop.: 2ish (all military) 0.8 ish (Army alone)

I don't believe the chart IS only army, but for a nations entire military.

[Holy Marsh]

I thought it was Army only as well. I shall add some more information then.

[Australian Asia]

Nation Name: Confederacy of Australian Asia
Population: 277,000,000
Defence Budget: 23831059820$ (1%)
Military Size: 1,385,000
Active Troops: 1,000,000
Reserve Forces: 385,000
Paramilitary: 5,000,000 of Federational Guard Force
% of Pop.: 0.5 (excluding paramilitary)

[Sonul]

Nation Name: Sonul
Population: 285 million
Defence Budget: 500 billion
Military Size: 20 million troops
Active Troops: 2 million
Reserve Forces: 10 million
Paramilitary: 100,000
% of Pop.: 7 %

[Beth Gellert]

If you feel that this "estimate" does not satisfy the statistics of your military, please feel free to calculate a form of exchange rate for your currency. For now this will have to remain as I said before I cannot open up an entire new column just for a nation with a different currency.

Table Updated

Well, obviously it is impossible to calculate an exchange rate for a Communist economy with a non-convertable currency. But it's not just me, half the NS world should be like this, except I think some people really aren't putting much consideration into how their nations actually work. It'd be something that'd still have to be considered if the world were still divided between capitalist and anti-capitalist economies... it was always notoriously hard to put an estimate on the Eastern Bloc economies and their budgets et cetera, and most infamously the CIA rated East Germany's economy as stronger per-capita than West Germany's a matter of months before the wall came down. I'm just saying. You can do what you wish with your table, of course, but I think anyone in the NS world seriously compiling such a table from across the political-economic spectrum would have to consider such problems and admit the shortcomings of their assessments.

But my main point on the calculator, surely you understand that? It puts GDP -in over-simplified terms the value of everything that happens in the economy- is smaller than how much the government has to spend... which is just impossible. This is why you are wasting your time to even be considering the calculators. A monkey with a wet paintbrush tied to its backside would be exactly as useful in determining economic data.

I'm happy to be included in your chart, and I appreciate the effort you're putting in to keep it updated. I'm not necessarily asking you to change anything, I'm just trying to be helpful and provide some context for some of the figures, and advice for players who haven't previously noticed these things

[Sibirsky]

Nation Name: The Republic of Sibirsky
Population: 643,000,000
Defense Budget: $0
Military Size: 0
Active Troops: 0
Reserve Forces: 0
Paramilitary: 0
% of Pop.: 0

[Political Spectrum]

Nation Name: The Republic of Political Spectrum
Population: 435,000,000
Defence Budget: $204,692,925,036.60 (9%)
Military Size: 4,793,590
Active Troops: 2,086,983
Reserve Forces: 2,065,177
Paramilitary: 641,430
% of Pop.: 1.1%

[Marlencom]

Nation Name: The United Socialist States of Marlencom
Population: 643,000,000
Defence Budget: $357,031,364,676.00 (23%)
Military Size: 17,434,945
Active Troops: 4,762,793
Reserve Forces: 11,022,857
Paramilitary: 1,649,295
% of Pop.: 2.7%

[Astholm]

Nation Name: The People's Republic of Astholm
Population: 1,063billion
Defence Budget: £1,500,349,622
Military Size: 35,824,530
Active Troops: 4,186,882
Reserve Forces: 3,550,4850
Paramilitary: 0
% of Pop.: 1.1%

[Droktvan]

Yeah, I apologize for that. I wasn't quite thinking clearly; it was around 12am where I am and I was waiting for laundry... So here's a more realistic set of numbers considering my country's size and lack of military strength.

Nation Name: Empire of Droktvan
Population: 5,000,000
Defense Budget: $13,000,000,000 (USD)
Military Size: 150,000 Thousand
Active Troops: 51,500 Thousand
Reserve Forces: 91,000 Thousand
Paramilitary: 7,500 Thousand
% of Pop.: 3%

[Uiri]

Please note I RP as third world so don't go around saying that the calculator says this or that. I do it by 500 million increments so until I'm putting my last 500 million mark. Yes, RL third world countries have few if any reserves and paramilitaries.

Nation Name: Uiri
Population: 4.5 billion
Defence Budget: $0.108 trillion
Military Size: 10.8 million
Active Troops: 10.8 million
Reserve Forces: 0
Paramilitary: 0
% of Pop.: 0.24%

I know it is underfunded and small.

EDIT: I have to take out the navy and air force, don't add me yet.

[Epicnopolis]

what the heck, why not...

I agree friend. Although this doesn't neccesarily work for me, I always add on to my military size when my pop grows

Nation Name: The Republic of Epicnopolis
Population: 32 Million
Defence Budget:78,599,808,000
Military Size: 320,000
Active Troops: 3,000 (This means how many are currently involved in something correct?)
Reserve Forces: 10,000
Paramilitary: 70,000
% of Pop: Not sure how can figure it, I reckon it is something between 0.013 or 0.015.

[Volzgrad]

Nation Name: The Empire of Volzgrad
Population: 4,010,000,000
Defence Budget: $31,665,061,746,864.00 (39%)
Military Size: 11,020,000
Active Troops: 7,200,000
Reserve Forces: 3,870,000
Paramilitary: N/A
% of Pop.: 0.27481296758104738154613466334165%

[Third Spanish States]

Please note I consider the calculators as poor ways to define things that may allow number-wanking at ridiculous levels and have my own economic and military estimates in the Factbook.

Nation Name: The Anarchist Confederacy of Third Spanish States
Population: 300 Million
Defence Budget: US$ 776,800,450,000.00 (2038 - Fluctuates according to MilNet profits.)
Military Size: 2,130,000
Active Troops: 330,000
Reserve Forces: 1,800,000
Paramilitary: None. All militias are trained and supported by their own members, and their numbers fluctuate, skyrocketing during war(and going astronomic should an invasion attempt against the Confederacy happen) and lowering during peace time. The MilNet however has a small part of its spending used for teaching the principles of Guerrilla Warfare to militia, so they can take it from there.

% of Pop: 0.11% considering only active forces, 0,71% considering reserves.

Note: Only active forces effectively are out from civilian economic activities. Reservists will continue with their normal lives and work until they are needed, having occasional combat trainings during weekends to not lose their practice.

[Altergo]

Nation Name: The Federation Of Altergo
Population:275 million
Defense Budget: 100 Billion Denariis
Military Size: 275 million
Active Troops: 5 Million
Reserves: 270 million
Paramilitary:???
Pop. 100%

Note: My entire population is trained for warfare, but only a small amount of my population is in full-time duty...like Spartans...in a since.

[Allied Governments]

Nation Name: The Federation Of Altergo
Population:275 million
Defense Budget: 100 Billion Denariis
Military Size: 275 million
Active Troops: 5 Million
Reserves: 270 million
Paramilitary:???
Pop. 100%

Note: My entire population is trained for warfare, but only a small amount of my population is in full-time duty...like Spartans...in a since.

How do you train so many people with so little money, how are you going to pay for equipment and all that jazz with only 100 Billion dollars?

[Altergo]

Nation Name: The Federation Of Altergo
Population:275 million
Defense Budget: 100 Billion Denariis
Military Size: 275 million
Active Troops: 5 Million
Reserves: 270 million
Paramilitary:???
Pop. 100%

Note: My entire population is trained for warfare, but only a small amount of my population is in full-time duty...like Spartans...in a since.

How do you train so many people with so little money, how are you going to pay for equipment and all that jazz with only 100 Billion dollars?

100 billion Denariis is the equvalent of 100 trillion US dollars

[Conserative Morality]

How do you train so many people with so little money, how are you going to pay for equipment and all that jazz with only 100 Billion dollars?

I'm guessing really good deals on bolt-action rifles?

[Allied Governments]

How do you train so many people with so little money, how are you going to pay for equipment and all that jazz with only 100 Billion dollars?

I'm guessing really good deals on bolt-action rifles?

Oh wait, he's saying that those numbers really means he has 100 Trillion dollars. It's bullshit (as in, no one would listen to him if he tries this.)