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The Great Lord Tiger
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Re: All About Military

Postby The Great Lord Tiger » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:02 pm

North Defese wrote:
Stoklomolvi wrote:$29 trillion yearly budget.


How can your nation afford THAT? :palm:



http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconom ... toklomolvi

Gross Domestic Product: $101,544,476,747,664.78

Defence: $29,278,105,774,444.81 29%


That's how.
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Re: All About Military

Postby North Defese » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:03 pm

I got two nations mixed up.

I had a brain fart. :blink:

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Re: All About Military

Postby Reavani » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:07 pm

The Great Lord Tiger wrote:
North Defese wrote:
Stoklomolvi wrote:$29 trillion yearly budget.


How can your nation afford THAT? :palm:



http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconom ... toklomolvi

Gross Domestic Product: $101,544,476,747,664.78

Defence: $29,278,105,774,444.81 29%


That's how.

Huh, I got his defense percentage beat, I can afford more guns per person!
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Re: All About Military

Postby Stoklomolvi » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:14 pm

Defence spending per capita does not matter as much as overall; if your defence spending per capita is $5,000 and you have 50 people while I have $100 per capita but 250 people, we break even.
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Re: All About Military

Postby Machina Haruspex » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:23 pm

By the NSE caculator I've about 73 trillion spent on defense alone. Fascism does work after all apparently.
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Postby Zinaire » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:27 pm

Machina Haruspex wrote:By the NSE caculator I've about 73 trillion spent on defense alone. Fascism does work after all apparently.


I'm sure the people being taxed excessively and given only "protection" from outside "threats" don't feel the same way.
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Re: All About Military

Postby Stoklomolvi » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:29 pm

81% of the budget being spent on the military and police is a bit...excessive, wouldn't you think?
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Re: All About Military

Postby Reavani » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:33 pm

Stoklomolvi wrote:81% of the budget being spent on the military and police is a bit...excessive, wouldn't you think?

I disagree, how else could we keep up our mobile oppression fortress?
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Postby Machina Haruspex » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:09 pm

I hear excessive, but law and order are maintained and thus our society is free from the worries of radical youth, gangs, violence against the proper citizenry. Crime is effectively minimalized to near non-existence.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:20 pm

Machina Haruspex wrote:I hear excessive, but law and order are maintained and thus our society is free from the worries of radical youth, gangs, violence against the proper citizenry. Crime is effectively minimalized to near non-existence.

So you claim. :p
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Re: All About Military

Postby Ledarre » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:43 am

I use the 5% rule, taking into account the mass conscription policies and since it does leave the economy in ruins we have had very few wars.
Ledarres military is divided into three parts (Army, Airforce, Navy) these are then sub divided into unit types, for example Ledarres army:

Royal infantry division

Royal Armour division

Royal Cavalry division

Royal artillery division

Standard army weapon is the AK-47 and the main battle tank is the T-72.
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Re: All About Military

Postby Machina Haruspex » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:03 am

" Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. "

So says NS.
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Re: All About Military

Postby Sorgan » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:38 pm

Stoklomolvi wrote:No, they're equipped with the NS equivalent of a United States. Just because I'm communist doesn't mean my men don't get the best of the best. :P

Wow do you ever know how communism works? In Communism product are always Shanty and easily broken because of terrible work forces and a low pay.

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Re: All About Military

Postby Reavani » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:08 pm

Sorgan wrote:
Stoklomolvi wrote:No, they're equipped with the NS equivalent of a United States. Just because I'm communist doesn't mean my men don't get the best of the best. :P

Wow do you ever know how communism works? In Communism product are always Shanty and easily broken because of terrible work forces and a low pay.

I couldn't bury an American assualt rifle, dig it up a month later, and then shoot it.

Find me one case where a terrorist organization EVER chooses the M-16 or M-4 over the Kalashnikov or one of her Cousins.


You can't.

Except in Georgia.

Those Klansmen are nuts.
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Re: All About Military

Postby Jakra » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:13 pm

Reavani wrote:
Sorgan wrote:
Stoklomolvi wrote:No, they're equipped with the NS equivalent of a United States. Just because I'm communist doesn't mean my men don't get the best of the best. :P

Wow do you ever know how communism works? In Communism product are always Shanty and easily broken because of terrible work forces and a low pay.

I couldn't bury an American assualt rifle, dig it up a month later, and then shoot it.

Find me one case where a terrorist organization EVER chooses the M-16 or M-4 over the Kalashnikov or one of her Cousins.


You can't.

Except in Georgia.

Those Klansmen are nuts.


Ireland, the IRA always prefers the M-16 or AR-15 (only a minor difference) to the Kalashnikov
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Re: All About Military

Postby Allied Governments » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:16 pm

Reavani wrote:
Sorgan wrote:
Stoklomolvi wrote:No, they're equipped with the NS equivalent of a United States. Just because I'm communist doesn't mean my men don't get the best of the best. :P

Wow do you ever know how communism works? In Communism product are always Shanty and easily broken because of terrible work forces and a low pay.

I couldn't bury an American assualt rifle, dig it up a month later, and then shoot it.

Find me one case where a terrorist organization EVER chooses the M-16 or M-4 over the Kalashnikov or one of her Cousins.


You can't.

Except in Georgia.

Those Klansmen are nuts.


Fun Fact! Ever notice why Kalashnikov's are in bulk around former Soviet Bloc countries, or one's with strong soviet influences?
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Re: All About Military

Postby Reavani » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:23 pm

Jakra wrote:
Ireland, the IRA always prefers the M-16 or AR-15 (only a minor difference) to the Kalashnikov

I wouldn't exactly call those people terrorists. Underhanded and Cowardly yes, but not quite Bombing civilians in a building for no real reason.
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Re: All About Military

Postby Jakra » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:41 pm

Reavani wrote:
Jakra wrote:
Ireland, the IRA always prefers the M-16 or AR-15 (only a minor difference) to the Kalashnikov

I wouldn't exactly call those people terrorists. Underhanded and Cowardly yes, but not quite Bombing civilians in a building for no real reason.


They are terrorists, seriously what else are they. Watch Patriot Games or read any book about modern Ireland they all call the IRA terrorists.

(I only threw in Patriot Games as a fun reference)
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Postby Escafin » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:03 pm

Letzen wrote:My Sig


You do realize your military is 1/4 (25%) of your population... right? That's impossible to field, and thus you likely carry twigs into combat, and are starving.
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Postby Zimbellomons » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:08 pm

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Postby Zimbellomons » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:08 pm

anything else?
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Postby Reavani » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:09 am

Zimbellomons wrote:Image

I swear that orphanage attacked me first!

It was self defense!
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Re: All About Military

Postby Crookfur » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:39 am

Jakra wrote:
Reavani wrote:
Sorgan wrote:Wow do you ever know how communism works? In Communism product are always Shanty and easily broken because of terrible work forces and a low pay.

I couldn't bury an American assualt rifle, dig it up a month later, and then shoot it.

Find me one case where a terrorist organization EVER chooses the M-16 or M-4 over the Kalashnikov or one of her Cousins.


You can't.

Except in Georgia.

Those Klansmen are nuts.


Ireland, the IRA always prefers the M-16 or AR-15 (only a minor difference) to the Kalashnikov


Not entirely true, it was always a LOT easier for the IRA and other republican groups to get hold AR-15s (civilian semi auto only version) from thier supporters in the US than try and get AKs, they were also trying to create an image where they were distancing themselves from the soviets who were also supplying them with funding (along with most terror groups in europe at the time). Additionally when Republican songs mention Armalites they actually refer to AR-18s, mostly produced under license by the Sterling company in the UK (prior to the Hungerford massacre).

Of course if you actually take the time to look at hamas or hezbolla footage you will see a lot of AR-15 derived rifles in use if only because of thier tacticoolness.

as for the AK it never was as good or as realible as epople have amde it out to be which is why it has lost pretty much every Russian small arms trial since the 50s its only the industrial inertia and general Kalashnikov's influence that has kept around in various guises. As for bury guns and digging them, that's a party trick pretty much all the current crop of Western short stroke psiton operated rifle can perform
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Re: All About Military

Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:52 am

Reavani wrote:
Jakra wrote:
Ireland, the IRA always prefers the M-16 or AR-15 (only a minor difference) to the Kalashnikov

I wouldn't exactly call those people terrorists. Underhanded and Cowardly yes, but not quite Bombing civilians in a building for no real reason.


IRA not bombing civilians?

Manchester 1996
Omagh 1998
Birmingham 1974
Brighton 1984
Hyde park and Regents Park 1982
Guildford 1974
Lord Mountbatten 1979

It seems they were rather fond of bombing things. That makes them terrorists.
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Postby Reavani » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:37 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Reavani wrote:
Jakra wrote:
Ireland, the IRA always prefers the M-16 or AR-15 (only a minor difference) to the Kalashnikov

I wouldn't exactly call those people terrorists. Underhanded and Cowardly yes, but not quite Bombing civilians in a building for no real reason.


IRA not bombing civilians?

Manchester 1996
Omagh 1998
Birmingham 1974
Brighton 1984
Hyde park and Regents Park 1982
Guildford 1974
Lord Mountbatten 1979

It seems they were rather fond of bombing things. That makes them terrorists.

That also makes every aircraft capable government terrorists...
The United States, UK, Germany, and Japan more so then all others...

We seem to be pretty good at terrorizing things.
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