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Victorious Decepticons
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:55 am

John Carl doesn't immediately realize it when he hits the Transdimensional Warp Point during a sail through the Bermuda Triangle, but he is now on a very different Earth than the one he's used to. When he heads for the shore of Bermuda, he is surprised to see a GIANT wind farm sticking out into the ocean. He wonders how he could have missed that and could swear it wasn't there when he left.

When he sees some of the windmills being maintained by giant robots, he knows for sure that something Big has happened. He assumes that it's a miracle and that he's been sent to preach the Word According to Himself to these new heathens!

He heads for shore, taking note of the robots pointing at him and his boat. He puts ashore and asks one of them where their master is...

And that's when he finds out that there is indeed, in his view, such a thing as "hell on Earth."

Barely restraining themselves from stepping on the little bipedal ant, the Decepticons explain that THEY'RE the masters! They tell him that he's just come through the Transdimensional Warp Point, a place long known to humans as being where ships and planes disappeared, but not explainable until the place was examined by Decepticon scientists.

Undaunted, he starts to spew his views. With a surprising burst of insight, Carl decides to hold back that "God gave Man dominion" part for now. He gets immediate agreement on the need to be armed and the fallacy of the desirability of peace. The Decepticons agree that Capitalism is good...and then mention that Carl would be worth about $500 on the slave market!

Missing just how likely it is that he'll be "cashed in," he launches into a tirade against immigrants. He is then told that they agree...and that HE'S the immigrant! He quickly changes the subject to homosexuality - a topic that always lit the fires of controversy back home. To his dismay, he is met with feigned yawns, and is finally told that robots are asexual and that they couldn't care less what humans did with their reproductive parts!

When he gets to evolution, they debate a bit. The Decepticons aren't dead-set against the idea of a creator, but if there is one, they're not impressed with his work. They pelt Carl with statistics about the "defect rate" of newborn biologicals and decry the "planned obsolescence" of human bodies. They let him know that the Decepticon on-activation defect rate is only 0.00001%, and that almost all of those few defects are completely repairable to fully-functional status. They boast about the fact that Decepticons can potentially live forever, and ask him whether he, too, will be functional in 150 years.

John Carl can't really think of anything to say to that, so he resorts to claiming that "well, God gave Man dominion over the Earth, so humans must actually be superior!"

That does it.

"Dominion?! Har har har, the human resistance fell like a house of cards when we invaded! All you puny creatures have 'dominion' over is the pickaxes you use to mine our ore for us! Here," one says, producing an empty Energon Cube, "I'll SHOW YOU who has dominion over the Earth!"

With that, he grabs Carl and throws him into the empty Cube, which now serves as a cage for the human. The Decepticon puts him up for sale on the slave auction site, and within minutes, the winning bid is in: $450.

In a few hours, Carl's new owner shows up and collects his purchase. Carl is told by his owner that he is now a mine slave, and he will honor the DECEPTICON dominion over the Earth for the rest of his life - OR ELSE!

Once in the mines, Carl is painfully forced to work 20 hours a day. As an unupgraded human, he would normally die of overwork, but Carl is different. He still can't keep his mouth shut, and immediately starts trying to motivate the other slaves to revolt against the "demonic forces" now controlling Earth and "restore Man's dominion."

The overseer hears this subversive talk, walks over, and very deliberately crushes Carl to death under his foot.

Without a comment, the other slaves continue working, faster now. They didn't understand Carl's words; they've never heard of demons or even encountered the idea that anything besides Decepticons even *could* have dominion over anything. What they do understand is that what he was saying was obviously wrong, and he was working too slowly. They make sure not to do such things themselves, lest they suffer the same fate.
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Vallermoore wrote:The Victorious Decepticons.

Bluquse wrote:Imperialist, aggressive, and genociding aliens or interdimensional beings that would most likely slaughter or enslave us
rather than meet up to have a talk. :(

TurtleShroom wrote:Also, like any sane, civilized nation, we always consider the Victorious Decepticons a clear, present, and obvious threat we must respect, honor, and leave alone in all circumstances. Always fear the Victorious Decepticons.


The Huskar Social Union wrote: ... massive empires of genocidal machines.

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Gphtty
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Founded: Oct 27, 2010
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Postby Gphtty » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:00 am

free...?

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The Great Lioness
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Founded: Apr 04, 2006
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Postby The Great Lioness » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:05 am

Well.... christianity is one of the two pillars of our religious society so for that we'd like him buuuuuut... his hate of enviormentalists, homosexuals, and socialism don't fit too well with our society and wouldn't get him very far... and if he started preaching hate towards our people or religious veiws... our religious hieracrhey might send an assassin to take him out becuase he would be preceived as being "possesed by a demon" for preaching pro-war and hate sermons. Plus we don't really have a grand deal of computers for general public use so

online church = rather pointless...

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The Great Lioness
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Founded: Apr 04, 2006
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Postby The Great Lioness » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:16 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:If he ended up here, he needs to fire his travel agent.


^this is hilarious, love it, :rofl:
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Alekseevskaya
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Founded: Apr 16, 2010
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Postby Alekseevskaya » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:16 am

Because of his very open hatred of Socialism and Vladimir Lenin, his despise of homosexuality, evolution and everything not Christian the following will happen:

He would arrive through Dmitrovskaya National Airport, and go to his hotel, because he cannot speak Skayan he would end up argueing with the receptionist for a while, but manages to land a room. The next day he begins his public right wing rant against Alekseevskaya, its leaders, its culture, and its morality. He will then start preaching the bible and demoting Atheism and the pursuit of science as well as attacking homosexuals (Verbal & Physically).

After repeating his actions for a week or so, an Enforcer Directorate squad forcefully evicts him from his hotel room and brings him to the Barisov Square where he is publicly executed (In front of crowds of vengeful Skayans cheering for his death) for Speaking against the government in the fifth tier, Assault in the second tier, Preaching Christianity in the 5th tier without permission and many many more.
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Puff-Puff-Pass Land
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Founded: Dec 09, 2009
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Postby Puff-Puff-Pass Land » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:21 am

Victorious Decepticons wrote:John Carl doesn't immediately realize it when he hits the Transdimensional Warp Point during a sail through the Bermuda Triangle, but he is now on a very different Earth than the one he's used to. When he heads for the shore of Bermuda, he is surprised to see a GIANT wind farm sticking out into the ocean. He wonders how he could have missed that and could swear it wasn't there when he left.

When he sees some of the windmills being maintained by giant robots, he knows for sure that something Big has happened. He assumes that it's a miracle and that he's been sent to preach the Word According to Himself to these new heathens!

He heads for shore, taking note of the robots pointing at him and his boat. He puts ashore and asks one of them where their master is...

And that's when he finds out that there is indeed, in his view, such a thing as "hell on Earth."

Barely restraining themselves from stepping on the little bipedal ant, the Decepticons explain that THEY'RE the masters! They tell him that he's just come through the Transdimensional Warp Point, a place long known to humans as being where ships and planes disappeared, but not explainable until the place was examined by Decepticon scientists.

Undaunted, he starts to spew his views. With a surprising burst of insight, Carl decides to hold back that "God gave Man dominion" part for now. He gets immediate agreement on the need to be armed and the fallacy of the desirability of peace. The Decepticons agree that Capitalism is good...and then mention that Carl would be worth about $500 on the slave market!

Missing just how likely it is that he'll be "cashed in," he launches into a tirade against immigrants. He is then told that they agree...and that HE'S the immigrant! He quickly changes the subject to homosexuality - a topic that always lit the fires of controversy back home. To his dismay, he is met with feigned yawns, and is finally told that robots are asexual and that they couldn't care less what humans did with their reproductive parts!

When he gets to evolution, they debate a bit. The Decepticons aren't dead-set against the idea of a creator, but if there is one, they're not impressed with his work. They pelt Carl with statistics about the "defect rate" of newborn biologicals and decry the "planned obsolescence" of human bodies. They let him know that the Decepticon on-activation defect rate is only 0.00001%, and that almost all of those few defects are completely repairable to fully-functional status. They boast about the fact that Decepticons can potentially live forever, and ask him whether he, too, will be functional in 150 years.

John Carl can't really think of anything to say to that, so he resorts to claiming that "well, God gave Man dominion over the Earth, so humans must actually be superior!"

That does it.

"Dominion?! Har har har, the human resistance fell like a house of cards when we invaded! All you puny creatures have 'dominion' over is the pickaxes you use to mine our ore for us! Here," one says, producing an empty Energon Cube, "I'll SHOW YOU who has dominion over the Earth!"

With that, he grabs Carl and throws him into the empty Cube, which now serves as a cage for the human. The Decepticon puts him up for sale on the slave auction site, and within minutes, the winning bid is in: $450.

In a few hours, Carl's new owner shows up and collects his purchase. Carl is told by his owner that he is now a mine slave, and he will honor the DECEPTICON dominion over the Earth for the rest of his life - OR ELSE!

Once in the mines, Carl is painfully forced to work 20 hours a day. As an unupgraded human, he would normally die of overwork, but Carl is different. He still can't keep his mouth shut, and immediately starts trying to motivate the other slaves to revolt against the "demonic forces" now controlling Earth and "restore Man's dominion."

The overseer hears this subversive talk, walks over, and very deliberately crushes Carl to death under his foot.

Without a comment, the other slaves continue working, faster now. They didn't understand Carl's words; they've never heard of demons or even encountered the idea that anything besides Decepticons even *could* have dominion over anything. What they do understand is that what he was saying was obviously wrong, and he was working too slowly. They make sure not to do such things themselves, lest they suffer the same fate.

:rofl:
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Pirate Somalia
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Founded: Sep 18, 2010
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Postby Pirate Somalia » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:44 am

I don't imagine John Carl ever coming into Somarrli territory, but if he did, if he arrived at Mogadishu, the old capital, he would likely be met with indifference. After all, everyone here is free to do or say what they like, as long as they recognise the potential consequences of their doing so. He may end up being very frightened indeed within a few hours spent in Pirate Somalia, given the difference between his concept of freedom, and the absolute freedom given rein here. If he tried to impose any ideology, he'd likely get shot by an individual in the crowd, just like anyone in such a position would.
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The Coiled God
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Founded: Nov 11, 2010
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Postby The Coiled God » Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:35 pm

Figuring that if one wants the light to shine brightly one must take it into the darkness, John Carl books a plane to the Holy Empire of the Coiled God. Arriving in the Holy Empire's sole international airport in the city of Jurai-Tchezaal, he is struck by the briny reek of the fogs which choke the city; by the monolithic, towering ziggurats; by the bejeweled, naked temple prostitutes and dancers; and by the slick-skinned, huge-eyed, web-fingered figures of the Deep Children, servitors of God's Emissaries. Clearly this is a place thick with sin, crying out for Christ's mercy!

He has no trouble finding a hotel room, although he's disconcerted by the fact that 80% of the menu is seafood. The bedside table holds a strange, unpleasant-looking idol of a voluptuous female figure, trailing tentacles, either rising from the waves or being dragged down into them, as well as a copy of The Book of Soundings, the Coiled God's introductory holy book.

The following morning, John is woken to the high-pitched wailing of pipes and the beat of drums - it's one of the many, many local festivals, and statues of God's Emissaries and His Saints are being carried through the streets on massive palanquins - the largest and most ornate of which features a pair of naked priestesses of the Coiled God, entwined atop an altar in not-exactly-holy communion (from a Christian perspective; to the adherents of the Coiled God, of course, it's a sacred rite).

Appalled at the devilry and vice of the nation, John feels the Holy Spirit move in him, and is moved to speak. "Fallen is Babylon, whore of nations!" he begins, and continues in like vein for several minutes - until robed and masked acolytes with big sticks apprehend him and drag him off to the local police precinct. There he is quickly found guilty of blasphemy and sentenced to death by drowning. His body is buried on land, so as not to pollute the Coiled God's oceans.

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Riffasia
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Founded: Oct 30, 2010
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Postby Riffasia » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:49 pm

Environmentalism: God gave Man dominion over all the Earth. So why can't these pathetic environmentalists let us use the Earth as we see fit? Environmentalism is socialism.


Your pundit may be disappointed in Riffasia's environmental policies. While Riffasia does recognize Earth as a resource for human use, it also recognizes property rights and applies them in terms of environmental property rights. It is recognized that activity and use of property can not degrade the value of property belonging to others without mutual consent or arbitrated restitution of value. A property owner therefore may not dump in a river without consent and compensation to all persons down river, including gulf fishing industries, so it is therefore generally not economical to pollute other people's land. While restitution payments for collateral environmental damage to other people's property are often outrageously high, your pundit might take some solace in the fact that these payments are distributed to the impacted land holders only, not the government. Such protection of property rights is not socialism.

Socialism: The devil spoke to Lenin, Stalin, and all the others and taught them Socialism. Capitalism: Outlined in the Bible as the economic system Man is to follow.


Socialism in all but purely voluntary forms infringes human rights of property and human right of conscience. All but voluntary forms require a central authority to confiscate and redistribute property by force at some level. Such arrangements are forbidden in Riffasia's constitution.

Gun control: "Sell your cloak and buy a sword." Jesus wanted us to be armed.


All organisms have an inherent right to self defence. Under Riffasian law, the right to self defence and the means thereto so long as one is not acting in violation of law is unquestioned, likewise the ownership of items used lawfully, even "dangerous items" such as automatic rifles, is not infringed. There are of course background checks for purchase and transfer of all firearms, and owners must be citizens of Adult Responsibility. Crimes involving weapons are stiffly punished in the cases where perpetrators survived the coordinated fire of defending citizens.

Peace: Peace is a lie propagated by people who want us to be unable to defend ourselves and our interests. Why else would there be so much war in the Bible if it wasn't God's will?


Riffasia recognizes that peace only exists when everyone respects each other's rights. It also recognizes that the natural human condition, indeed the condition of the Earth is not peace, but struggle for survival, acquisition and control of resources. The law of the jungle is a natural law which can not be abolished, but can be transitioned into more peaceful and efficient systems of contract and trade amongst persons and societies that respect people's rights.

Evolution: Evolution is a lie spread by the evil one to turn our children against the Bible truth!


OOC: I'm sensing a theme of angst/hate/stereotyping of Christianity. Boo.

The variations of traits in species over time under environmental pressures is unquestionable, however, it is recognized that the complex coding of genetic information has no readily apperant source that would lead to it's spontaneous generation. As such, Riffasia does not endorse any particular viewpoint on bio-genesis / spontaneous generation.

Homosexuality: Homos, gays, lesbians, their collaborators, their adopted spawn and all who advance their sinful agenda are going to the lowest plane of hell.


It is of no interest to the government of Riffasia what people do consensually. Riffasia does not recognize, endorse, or make any distinctions based on free will domestic arrangements or practices. There is no State definition or distinction relating to marriage. There are however laws about spreading contagion, with criminal liability for infecting other persons with serious diseases.

Other religions (and other Christian denominations): All were created by demons pretending to be gods and prophets.


Riffasia does not endorse or restrict any religion, except where practice restricts the rights of others. Riffasia recognizes that practice of Christianity according to the teachings of it's master do not infringe on the rights of others, but consist of a free will personal adherence to the commands of it's master to teach about him and to perform works of charity. As such, practice of biblical Christianity is not restricted (and in fact widely practiced). Practices of certain sects and cults which add additional provision such as forced membership (Imperial Katholicism), or forced redistribution of wealth (Marxian Theologists) are prohibited, as are such forms in other religions. Riffasia recognizes the right to freedoms of conscience and association, and no religious (Atheist by the way is considered a belief system with tenants of faith, i.e. the belief that "There are no gods" and therefore classified as a religion) may use force or law (which is really force) to interfere with those rights. Also it should be noted that as sponsors of Adult Responsibility, the right of parents/guardians to choose the basis of education for their children is unquestioned, and no guardian can be compelled to submit their ward to education in conflict with their conscience, except where such teaching manifestly inculcates the infringement the rights of others, e.g. Honor Killings, and compulsory garb wearing for women. It should be pointed out however that to earn the franchise (vote) and become a Responsible Adult one must study and pass successful examination of the citizenship core curriculum of Riffasia.

Immigration: Immigrants come only to destroy our sacred way of life and turn us from our Christian values and morals.


Elements of this statement have no context in Riffasia. Riffasia has a very strict immigration policy, where potential new citizens require sponsorship by citizens of Adult Responsibility, are demonstrated to be free of serious contagion, are reasonably expected to be able to provide for their own welfare (i.e. have skills, health, and ambition sufficient to prevent them from ending up as Wards of the State in Riffasia's rather gulag like welfare system). The same respect for rights previously discussed must be accepted by the immigrant as a condition of lawful residency. Unlawful residents are generally either shipped back to their point of origin, or deposited in Riffasia's rather "Escape from New York" like penal colony.

And now he is coming to your nation on vacation, and also to preach his views to your 'morally-backward' populace.


Being a non-citizen, his Riffasian sponsor would be held accountable for his conduct. Your pundit is free to speak as he wishes, even advocate policy change. He will likely be disappointed at the low turn out amongst citizens of Adult Responsibility, who will generally have respect for certain elements of his views, but find some positions irrelevant distractions or simply not applicable to Riffasia.

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Scharrath
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Postby Scharrath » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:16 pm

Like members of all lesser species, he would be enslaved and sold off to the highest bidder.

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Verdeguay
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Postby Verdeguay » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:59 am

John Carl would be a celebrity in Verdeguay.
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Marcurix
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Postby Marcurix » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:55 am

It would be interesting to see how he would preach his views without looking like a crazy homeless person. Given Marcurix's largely secular society and this man's general views, he would be ignored almost entirely within the realm of politeness. The only time he would be paid attention to is when he wished to purchase something.
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Monikian WA Mission
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Founded: Nov 01, 2010
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Postby Monikian WA Mission » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:18 am

Your pundit would last about 2 years before he died of skin cancer on the Planet of Monkiah. Of course thats assuming that he isn't ripped limb from limb for fomenting ideologies which are considered treasonous by my people or viewed with utter contempt for being--for lack of a better term an inferior species.
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Abanhfleft
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Postby Abanhfleft » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:22 am

Mr. Carl's religious zeal would be applauded by the Gullotian Catholics, whose late right-wing extremist leader Cardinal Renald Gulloti preached exactly the same views. But as for the rest of the people, they would find his intolerance for accepting evolution disturbing, as most Fleftics believe that evolution was God's way of making the Earth as it was today.

As for the environmentalists, the more radical ones would stage an estimated one thousand assassination attempts on Mr. Carl, through which he miraculously survived it all, and he attributed his survival to no one but God, of course. Because of this, the Gullotian Catholics would declare him their new Archbishop, ushering in the Second Holy Catholic Revolution.

Thanks to a very perceptive customs agent, Mr. Carl would not receive such a fate, and he would be "cheerfully repatriated" to the Lancovian government. But just before leaving, he would comment that he felt two people talking to him when he was conversing with said customs agent, and he would declare the poor kid "possessed by the devil," when he was actually just infested by a Kryynou, as with the rest of the Fleftic population.

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Dictatorial Land
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Postby Dictatorial Land » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:36 am

He'd probably be deported for his extremist views.
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Vorlden-Zuirn
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Postby Vorlden-Zuirn » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:05 pm

Since we are a secular, socialist, and scientific nation, he would shoot himself after he was here for more than a hour.
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12 Virs
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Founded: Feb 03, 2010
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Postby 12 Virs » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:08 pm

The minute he suggests that our Three Ways were inspired by demons, one of our dracovir (dragon-folk) sages would probably take him aside to educate him in the error of his ways.

He will be delicious.

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Libertaritardia
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Postby Libertaritardia » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:42 pm

A=A, therefore he would die. Why? Because, A=A!

His economics is kewl
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Lancov
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Postby Lancov » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:24 pm

OOC: Some feedback. I'll get to everyone after Teccor later. If I skipped you, then you can probably safely assume that John Carl thinks you are a nation of sinners and he tells his audience that in the next podcast. Or he's dead.

Lowell Leber wrote:If he could learn to live with Catholics than fine

Probably not... even normal Lancovians aren't too fond of Catholics.

Sibirsky wrote:He would be extremely successful and extremely wealthy.

He already is, but he certainly won't turn down more wealth.

Maraque wrote:Everyone he comes across laughs at him when he starts preaching his views. He leaves days after realizing he won't change any minds in this liberal hell bound land of sinners.

Maraque was by far his favorite place to visit. Plenty of things to whine about on his show.

Juristonia wrote:He would provide entertainment as the crazy homeless guy standing on the corner.

Only a sinner would become homeless.
~John Carl

Saurisia wrote: Overall, his views on Homosexuals, Evolution, and Other Religions are seen as extreme, however, his hatred for Left-wing policies would be welcomed (after all, we love to hate the Left). Some would be unnerved by his views on Evolution and Other Religions, but overall, he is left alone for the most part. After all, a Right-Wing extremist in our opinions beat the hell out of a Left-Wing extremist!

You know a state has turned from God's eye when beasts rule over Man.
~John Carl

Ramsetia wrote:After looking over a Ramset immigration handbook handed to all people on a first visit to Ramsetia, he would be shocked to find something known as the 'loremaster corps' managing all religions, and the mentions of laws against evangelicals and other preachers. His internet church is monitored by RAID, and while he is allowed to continue his preaching online, he quickly receives word that any attempts to open a brick-and-mortar place of worship will be met with legal action.
He is barred from politics because of his religious commentary and preaching, and it quickly earns him ire amongst Ramset business, especially with his mentality regarding resources and the environment. He finds it exceedingly difficult to advance the corporate ladder in Ramsetia, but manages to live comfortably nonetheless.
The prevalence of nonhumans living on the same level as humans, and even several of them being in positions of power over him in his workplace, and the privacy and bluntness of Ramset regarding their own religious beliefs, especially in that they are taken from original prints of the holy scriptures available, leaves him feeling alienated and alone.
If he stays on permanently, he may mellow out in his beliefs, but political apathy of most Ramset, the platform and views presented on voting cards instead of names and parties, the outright illegality of voting along (provable) religious lines, and the dictatorial power of the monarch will excise any political aims he ma have had in coming to ramsetia.
He would, however, be happy to note that commentary on the Imperial Office, for or against their acts, is actively listened to by the Imperial assembly, should the voices grow loud or annoying enough. He may have meetings with the Emperor or Empress and the assembly in person, should he raise any particularly good points. Though again, we stress that his religion may keep him from being taken seriously.

John Carl seems to think he is taken more seriously than he actually might be. He would probably be imprisoned as he quite obviously votes along religious lines. Hopefully for him the Ramset deport foreign prisoners, though as far as most Lancovians are concerned the Ramset can just keep him.

Sesseter wrote: He wouldn't come here in the first place. We're an avowedly left-wing secular socialist state.

That's the exact kind of nation he would go to. They need the salvation he offers for a monetary donation.

New Arcadia wrote: His views on socialism would be mostly acepted most people think that socialism is no good. And most people think captialism is the beast ecomic system that their is. But they will dissagree with his view that God is for captialism. They will also agree with him on the right of self defence but will ask. Him where in the bible did he get that quote.
People will agree with him that a nation needs a strong miltary but he would have veary few people beliveing that God wants war. And for his views on religion they will be tolerated. But most people will chalange him to. Theological debates. So he would not get many converts. But some of his people will convert to the largest Christian church in New Acardia witch is the Eastern Orthodox Church. Most people think envirmentalist are wackjobs any way. He would probaly leave the country veary confused.

But if you disagree with John Carl you disagree with God's word.
New Arcadia wrote: They will also agree with him on the right of self defence but will ask. Him where in the bible did he get that quote.

Luke 22:36 NIV, completely misunderstood of course.

Teccor wrote:OOC: Biased description of a "right-winger"...is biased. Right-Wing =/= Rightist. Sounds more like a fascist using religion as a shield for his dumb un-religious ideas.

Pretty much.
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Postby Krumolia » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:15 am

Most people would consider him ridiculous.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:23 am

Name: John Carl
Sex: Male, heterosexual
Age: 31
Race: Caucasian
Highest Education: religious university
Occupation: Political/Religious commentator, businessman, operator of online church.
Marital Status: Divorced
Political Party: claims to be Independent.
Net worth: Several hundred million haids (guesstimate)

Well, for one thing, people would laugh at him for putting "religious" and "university" in the same expression, and find him extremely ridiculous for it.

Views on:
Environmentalism: God gave Man dominion over all the Earth. So why can't these pathetic environmentalists let us use the Earth as we see fit? Environmentalism is socialism.

Dumb as hell

Socialism: The devil spoke to Lenin, Stalin, and all the others and taught them Socialism.

Dumb as hell

Capitalism: Outlined in the Bible as the economic system Man is to follow.

Dumb as hell

Gun control: "Sell your cloak and buy a sword." Jesus wanted us to be armed.

Disagree on "Jesus", Agree on "Be Armed".

Peace: Peace is a lie propagated by people who want us to be unable to defend ourselves and our interests. Why else would there be so much war in the Bible if it wasn't God's will?

Dumb as hell.

Evolution: Evolution is a lie spread by the evil one to turn our children against the Bible truth!

Dumb as hell, and the majority would find him hilariously dumb.

Homosexuality: Homos, gays, lesbians, their collaborators, their adopted spawn and all who advance their sinful agenda are going to the lowest plane of hell.

It's highly possible some Gays will shoot him, and no law enforcement would do anything to care.

Other religions (and other Christian denominations): All were created by demons pretending to be gods and prophets.

Nobody Cares. People will laugh at him.

Immigration: Immigrants come only to destroy our sacred way of life and turn us from our Christian values and morals.

People will laugh at him, especially considering the Pilartic History on Immigrants.

Bio: John Carl's parents were wealthy Baptists who immigrated to Lancov. His father is a wealthy uranium tycoon. John himself was born in Lancov. He was home schooled through primary school, but went to an Evangelical Christian private school for post-primary and secondary school. At age 18, his wealthy father used his political connections to prevent John from being conscripted. John instead went on to seminary, being ordained a minister. He founded an internet church which now has 900,000 'congregants'. He uses his 'church' to preach his arch-conservative, jingoistic political and religious views in a weekly podcast. For an H100 donation he will pray for forgiveness of your sins, and ensure you have a place in heaven. Auditors have estimated that 20% of the income from the site goes to political concerns, and 1% goes to charities. He is infamous in Lancov for keeping a list of all government officials that are going to hell. Interestingly, the Baptist Convention has stripped him of his ordination, as his ministry is 'blatantly and obviously for-profit and politically motivated.' (He now calls himself a 'commentator' as impersonating a religious official is a crime in Lancov.)

And now he is coming to your nation on vacation, and also to preach his views to your 'morally-backward' populace.

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Postby Mazujotai » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:26 am

He's possibly be able to find employemrnt at some news provider, but his views on religion make him a hard sell for many in Maxujotai as a nominally Buddhist and Shinto nation.
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Postby Athainia » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:36 am

Upon finding himself a platform, he would be harangued by a large commotion of angry Athainians. If he isn't too beaten by then, the police would be there and detain him indefinitely for his ideas being against the fundamental ideals of this country. After he vanishes from the public, he would likely be kept in a prison and tortured for years until he is finally executed and his ashes scattered in the wind.
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