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Postby Helghast empire » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:14 pm

level of danger for use. (highest to lowest)

soldiers:
Special 1st. riot shield ( CQC urban units only)
1. entrenching tool (likely shovel)
2. fire wood axe
3. bayonet
4. battle knife
5. pocket switchblade knife
6. brass knuckles on battle gloves (punching)
7. punches (if brass knuckles break), kicks, random objects thrown or hit against

Officers:
1. katana
2. entrenching tool
3. bayonet
4. battle knife
5. baton
6. fists, kicks, etc

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Postby Sygona » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:21 pm

Everyone in the Sygonese Army is equipped with the Cold Steel Counter Tac 2 and The Cold Steel OSS (I own one in real life)
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Postby Star Trek America » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:26 pm

Consortina wrote:
Star Trek America wrote:We used to issue swords to officers and NCOs. Now we just give them a pistol. Melee is left to the soldier's intitution; anything avaiable and their combat knives.


A pistol? Most armies prefer the rifle and that for a good reason. It might be heavier and clumsier but it gives you way better range and accuracy. The only situation where pistols are superior would be surprise attacks. But even there, the rifle will get the upper hand after the first two salvos have been shot.


You're assuming American Officers carry a rifle because you're assuming they lead from the Platoon or Battalion level; they do not. NCO's naturally have a rifle but their secondary/melee weapon is a pistol instead of a knife or bladed weapon. You go to stab? You get shot; American NCO walks away, melee-er bleeds to death.

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Postby Israslovakahzerbajan » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:19 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Israslovakahzerbajan wrote:
Actually it was All Quiet on the Western Front.


People like Katczinsky are why Germany lost


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Postby L3 Communications » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:25 pm

Star Trek America wrote:
Consortina wrote:
A pistol? Most armies prefer the rifle and that for a good reason. It might be heavier and clumsier but it gives you way better range and accuracy. The only situation where pistols are superior would be surprise attacks. But even there, the rifle will get the upper hand after the first two salvos have been shot.


You're assuming American Officers carry a rifle because you're assuming they lead from the Platoon or Battalion level; they do not. NCO's naturally have a rifle but their secondary/melee weapon is a pistol instead of a knife or bladed weapon. You go to stab? You get shot; American NCO walks away, melee-er bleeds to death.


Your battalions are led by NCOs?

wat

those are led by lt. colonels or majors
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Postby -the Ukrainian SSR- » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:47 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Star Trek America wrote:
You're assuming American Officers carry a rifle because you're assuming they lead from the Platoon or Battalion level; they do not. NCO's naturally have a rifle but their secondary/melee weapon is a pistol instead of a knife or bladed weapon. You go to stab? You get shot; American NCO walks away, melee-er bleeds to death.


Your battalions are led by NCOs?

wat

those are led by lt. colonels or majors


He said officers before that. NCOs were a different sentence.
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Postby L3 Communications » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:50 pm

-The Ukrainian SSR- wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
Your battalions are led by NCOs?

wat

those are led by lt. colonels or majors


He said officers before that. NCOs were a different sentence.


let us analyse the sentence:

You're assuming American Officers carry a rifle


yes, i am

because you're assuming they lead from the Platoon or Battalion level;


i would believe so, officers tend to lead these unit sizes (battalion is a full organisation level above platoon why not say "company" and "platoon" god knows)

they do not.


orly then who leads your platoons and battalions?

NCO's


Your battalions are led by NCOs?

wat

those are led by lt. colonels or majors

i think it is obvious this man is saying that his 2nd lts lead regimental/brigade-sized formations, his staff sergeants lead battalions, his sergeants lead companies, and his corporals lead platoons
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Postby -the Ukrainian SSR- » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:56 pm

O'shit, nvm. Didn't see that.
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Postby L3 Communications » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:56 pm

-The Ukrainian SSR- wrote:O'shit, nvm. Didn't see that.


mmmkay

we all make mistakes liek that

no biggie
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Postby Zeodia » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:41 pm

Our main weapon is this classy blade.
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Postby San Anderius » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:43 pm

The Katana, the carbon steel combat bat, and the combat knife.

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Postby Arcad » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:20 pm

Buffalo-shaped smacking items made out of cheese.
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Postby Laos Refugees » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:27 pm

Laosian Troops rarely need to use their melee weapon.
Most officers carry a Dha Sword.
Most Special Servicemen use a push blade along with a 'Commander'.
Normal Infantry and conscripts carry a Laosian Form of the 'Kukri' along with a survival knife.
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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:35 pm

Zeodia wrote:Our main weapon is this classy blade.
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Yea cos they will be soooo easy to carry in modern battlefield.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:45 pm

Zeodia wrote:Our main weapon is this classy blade.
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Your hand would get sore and blistered if you made more than a few cuts with that.
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Postby Flat Beats » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:14 am

Suffice it to say our troops are tenth level Ginaz Swordsmaster/Sardaukar/Fedaykin (Death Commandos) with Kindjals. A Kindjal is a large knife with a slightly curved double-blade approximately 20cm long. It is also classed as a short sword.

Oh, Yoshi blades too.
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Postby Satirius » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:46 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Zeodia wrote:Our main weapon is this classy blade.
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Your hand would get sore and blistered if you made more than a few cuts with that.

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Postby Mikedor » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:52 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Zeodia wrote:Our main weapon is this classy blade.
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Your hand would get sore and blistered if you made more than a few cuts with that.

Looks like its got a smooth surface. Clear resin or somesuch? Or, you know, gloves.
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Postby -Egypt- (Ancient) » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:29 pm

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as you can see from the pic, we have a club referred by modern people as the Club of RAW, we have a sword called a Cican and we have Secta Axes, these are the newest weapons.

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Postby Kronstadtia » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:51 pm

I do hope you're PT, Egypt? :D
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Postby Star Trek America » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:53 pm

So do I. Nice to see another Egyptian based culture/nation though.

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:57 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:Or you can just have calloused manhands


[OOC: My last job was factory work that involved essentially picking various heavy, steel objects up by their steel handles, my hands were calloused as hell, I still regretted the choice of handle covering on my sword (wire wrap), fwiw.
Gloves are a solution, but not perfect, because you have less feel and control over the blade. The more likely solution if they were actually seeing regular use in battle is hockey tape.]
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:21 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:Gloves do not affect control, and proper swordplay does not require feel. You are supposed to concentrate on the positioning of your wrist rather then how the handle feels, and otherwise let gravity and momentum do the work for you.


Do you actually own a sword and have familiarity with handling it, or did you gain your expertise some other way?
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:31 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:Polish sabres and kendo, the latter not being real sword fighting so you can discount it


Ah, I have a sidesword, this probably explains my attachment to 'feel' with my skinny poking sword compared to a more of a cleaver.
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Postby Atlantic Ocean Islands » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:56 pm

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No. 1 : Officer's Sable

95 cm length
1100 grams weight


No. 2: NCO's Machete

74 cm Lenght
1200 Grams Weight

No. 3 & No. 4: Honorably Retired Handgrip

When you retire from our forces, your sable is passed over to a new officer in a ceremony, you receive a handgrip instead.

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