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Postby Songnam » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:27 pm

Punitive tarriffs cluster frak imports. We like our stuff from here, thank you very much.

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Postby Jordtopia » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:28 pm

Pff, what are we, Commies?! We don't squeeze corporations with legislation like a Red Boa Constrictor, so companies remain here.
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Postby Dark Side Messiahs » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:29 pm

Outsourcing of jobs in DSM is completely illegal.
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Postby Vukanova » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:31 pm

Imperial Domtopia wrote:The posters claimed that companies choose not to outsource their jobs presumably because of some moral concern. This is presupposing that corporations will do things out of the goodness of their hearts when left free from government intervention which is, of course, nonsense.


Morals were not mentioned, in my posts. Practical interest was. There is little to no regulation, thus reducing operating costs, thus reducing the need to outsource in the first place. Low overhead costs, large and readily available workforce, and so on combine to make a good environment.
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Postby Saurisia » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:33 pm

Vukanova wrote:
Imperial Domtopia wrote:The posters claimed that companies choose not to outsource their jobs presumably because of some moral concern. This is presupposing that corporations will do things out of the goodness of their hearts when left free from government intervention which is, of course, nonsense.


Morals were not mentioned, in my posts. Practical interest was. There is little to no regulation, thus reducing operating costs, thus reducing the need to outsource in the first place.


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Postby Hellestia » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:35 pm

Most Hellestine corporations choose to hire locally than to outsource jobs elsewhere. Although these individual companies have the legal right to outsource their employment opportunities, they choose not to, since the work that is required cannot be fully met with other citizens from other nations in comparison to that of those in Hellestia. The economy is leniently regulated, thus allowing for more employment benefits for our workers, which then creates a successful economy without government regulation in the first place.
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Postby Northern Itasca » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:40 pm

Our corporations can outsource all they want, however, if they don't outsource they get massive tax breaks. It's a nice way to prevent outsourcing without putting shackles around the ankles of our nations great corporations.
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Postby Imperial Domtopia » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:51 pm

Vukanova wrote:
Imperial Domtopia wrote:The posters claimed that companies choose not to outsource their jobs presumably because of some moral concern. This is presupposing that corporations will do things out of the goodness of their hearts when left free from government intervention which is, of course, nonsense.


Morals were not mentioned, in my posts. Practical interest was. There is little to no regulation, thus reducing operating costs, thus reducing the need to outsource in the first place. Low overhead costs, large and readily available workforce, and so on combine to make a good environment.


So basically you're China with the government replaced by a massive coalition of corporations?
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Postby Saurisia » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:58 pm

Imperial Domtopia wrote:
Vukanova wrote:
Imperial Domtopia wrote:The posters claimed that companies choose not to outsource their jobs presumably because of some moral concern. This is presupposing that corporations will do things out of the goodness of their hearts when left free from government intervention which is, of course, nonsense.


Morals were not mentioned, in my posts. Practical interest was. There is little to no regulation, thus reducing operating costs, thus reducing the need to outsource in the first place. Low overhead costs, large and readily available workforce, and so on combine to make a good environment.


So basically you're China with the government replaced by a massive coalition of corporations?


Your Logical Fallacies are as deep as the oceans, Commie tyrant scum. Your hatred for capitalism and the free market is easy to see from your warped logic.
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Postby Gahaldu » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:04 pm

Foreign companies that sell foreign-made products here are hit with tariffs, and domestic companies that offshore jobs are heavily taxed. It isn't illegal, but the consequences of offshoring jobs discourage the vast majority of companies from selling foreign-made products here.
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Postby Vukanova » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:04 pm

Imperial Domtopia wrote:So basically you're China with the government replaced by a massive coalition of corporations?


No, and quit putting words in my mouth so you can have something to attack.

National government in Vukanova is built on the idea of minarchism, or the night watchman state. Basically, if the government isn't actually needed to perform a service, they are legally barred from interfering.

Minarchists acknowledge the state as a necessary evil, but assert that it must only exist to protect the life, liberties, and properties of each individual, to protect them from aggression, theft, breach of contract and fraud.

If a company makes a contract with its employees, then the state will side with the employees in the event of a wrongful breach of contract, but will otherwise keep out of anything to do with the business. There is no minimum wage law, though an effective minimum wage which is roughly equal to $8.00 USD hourly exists throughout the nation, there is little if any environmental legislation or anything else which prompts businesses in many countries to outsource. Research is only regulated in that it must cause no undue harm to sentient life.

In short, the business is left with very little real cause to outsource. So long as it obeys a literal handful or two of solid laws and keeps the local workforce happy, it has an exceptionally productive working environment.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:05 pm

Of course jobs get outsourced, even with slaves and the droves of poor, theres far, far worse off nations willing to work for less than what could sustain a man here. We don't mind outsourcing at all since it keeps our products cheaper, and we can rake in all the profits.
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Postby New Korongo » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:28 pm

Jobs are not normally outsourced in New Korongo, but that could be because 57% of labour is done by slaves.

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Postby KludgeMUSH » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:08 am

There is not generally a concern of outsourcing in our country, as there is a lack of crippling regulation which would promote the need to outsource a perfectly good job. Our pro-immigration policies provide us with a steady stream of imported labor and our lack of minimum wage laws keeps the cost of this labor competitive. Why outsource jobs to Maxtopia when we have plenty of Maxtopians right here?

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Postby Rejistania » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:07 am

You know what your companies do when they realize your politics cause them too high costs? They come here. The absence of minimum wage laws and of most of the common taxes means that you can easily and cheaply produce here.
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Postby Makaar » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:40 am

Wages in Makaar are high enough that outsourcing has become a major issue of contention. The government is unwilling to legislate against it, mainly because outsourcing provides jobs to other human beings across the planet who shouldn't necessarily be discriminated against just because they aren't Makaarian.

High-tech industry and services, however, are booming in Makaar. This is where the vast majority of people are employed. (And our economy was rated by the WA as "frightening" so we must be doing something right.)
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:13 am

Anolil wrote:Are jobs outsourced to or from your nation? Are their laws in place that restrict companies from outsourcing jobs from your nation? How is outsourcing looked upon in your nation?

Jobs are rarely outsourced here in Anolil. Though we have no minimum wage laws, our people will probably bomb a company that tried to pay them extremely low wages. Our companies usually do not outsource jobs, but there are no regulations preventing them from doing so. People generally view outsourcing as being somewhat traitorous to Anolilian workers.

Nope, no laws against them. One reason: We're on another planet. No way to outsource.
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Postby Expansionist Helgan » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:18 am

Outsourcing is illegal, All Expansionist Helgans must be given jobs before any non expansionist Helgan , and rarely do we take any immigrants, they are kept in check because, we have a no child policy for immigrants and a one in one out basis which maintains our 0% population growth policy for immigrants thus maintaning that Expansionist Helgans will always remain the absolute majority.

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:22 am

Expansionist Helgan wrote:Outsourcing is illegal, All Expansionist Helgans must be given jobs before any non expansionist Helgan , and rarely do we take any immigrants, they are kept in check because, we have a no child policy for immigrants and a one in one out basis which maintains our 0% population growth policy for immigrants thus maintaning that Expansionist Helgans will always remain the absolute majority.

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Postby Prevania » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:25 am

In Prevania, there is little outsourcing due to the very lax (ie: almost non-existent) corporate legislation. Some things are outsourced: often to Prevanian dependencies with similar lack of legislation but which can use slave labour far away from the eyes of the Prevanian public and the rest of the world.

In some industries, outsourcing is impossible. EG: the airship industry - no other nation has sufficient skilled workers able to build or maintain quality airships.
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Postby Northern Itasca » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:05 pm

Imperial Domtopia wrote:
Vukanova wrote:
Imperial Domtopia wrote:The posters claimed that companies choose not to outsource their jobs presumably because of some moral concern. This is presupposing that corporations will do things out of the goodness of their hearts when left free from government intervention which is, of course, nonsense.


Morals were not mentioned, in my posts. Practical interest was. There is little to no regulation, thus reducing operating costs, thus reducing the need to outsource in the first place. Low overhead costs, large and readily available workforce, and so on combine to make a good environment.


So basically you're China with the government replaced by a massive coalition of corporations?


You just angry because your country's people have no money, there are no jobs and no corporations because you tax the living hell out of them and tax and regulate corporations even more.
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Postby Augarundus » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:19 pm

Maraque wrote:Tsvarchivan companies offering goods or services intended for the Tsvarchivan market must use Tsvarchivan resources and workers first,


Nationalist mercantile scum!


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Postby Sungai Pusat » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:21 pm

Northern Itasca wrote:
Imperial Domtopia wrote:
Vukanova wrote:
Imperial Domtopia wrote:The posters claimed that companies choose not to outsource their jobs presumably because of some moral concern. This is presupposing that corporations will do things out of the goodness of their hearts when left free from government intervention which is, of course, nonsense.


Morals were not mentioned, in my posts. Practical interest was. There is little to no regulation, thus reducing operating costs, thus reducing the need to outsource in the first place. Low overhead costs, large and readily available workforce, and so on combine to make a good environment.


So basically you're China with the government replaced by a massive coalition of corporations?


You just angry because your country's people have no money, there are no jobs and no corporations because you tax the living hell out of them and tax and regulate corporations even more.

The industry could be nationalised. :unsure:
Augarundus wrote:
Maraque wrote:Tsvarchivan companies offering goods or services intended for the Tsvarchivan market must use Tsvarchivan resources and workers first,


Nationalist mercantile scum!


Augarundus allows the market to take its course. Whatever the invisible hand chooses, so it must be done.

Sometimes, the Great Chain of Industry requires a little tug...

:D
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Postby Kayleycunningham » Mon May 18, 2020 10:49 pm

you can outsource your job anytime you want lol

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