Main Military Weapon of Your Country (Mk. II)

[Crookfur]

Why on earth would you issue both .50 BMG and 12.7x108mm? They both do exactly the same thing with .50BMG being a bit more powerful (well about 1.5x as powerful depending on the load).

Also if you are issuing 6.5mm grendal and .257 Weatherby you have no real need for 6.5x55mm. Of course at the 4000j mark moving up to .30cal really starts to pay off in terms of barrel life and raw terminal effect.

Go on, I'm listening , I added the 6.5 mm because I thought that 6.5 mm WM (Weatherby Magnum) would cause to much barrel wear and couldn't as effectively be used for sustained, automatic fire since it performs similarly to the 30.06 which was known in 1919 BMG to have problems holding in sustained fire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1919_Browning_machine_gun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1918_Browning_Automatic_Rifle I'm not criticizing you, I want you to go on because I've been wandering around this thread and other threads, watching and reading other people's designs for a long time and I just wanted to finally bite the bullet by starting with the bullet and start filling up a decent arsenal so when I decide to get back into II, I won't be hastily uparmoring a proverbial horse like most nationstates do.

Yeah .257Weatherby Magnum really should be kept for very specilisted bolt action sniepr rifles, however it is in and around the muzzle energy level you want for a GPMG/battle rifle round to supplement 6.5mm Grendal. 6.5x55mm doesn;t really bring enough in the way of additional muzzle energy to really make it worthwhile having along side 6.5mm grendal.

6.5mm grendal will more or less do all the jobs at the squad/section level and to support it you would be looking at a 4000-5000joule round i.e. the high end of the .30cal region and moving into some of the 8mm+ rounds. How you sort your MGs for these roudns out can vary personally i would tend to lean towards a light GPMG in 6.5mm Grendal supported by a true medium (old fashioned heavy) MG in your high power cartridge.

[Portugal 2874]

I really need help:

My army has conducted tests on 4 submachineguns, of wich 2 will enter production. Every weapons engineer in my nation are confused! Every weapon has performed great in tests! Ill show them:

Bravia SM24



Bravia SM35



Bravia SM46



And the Bravia SM63




All of them fire 10 mm Auto rounds except the SM35 wihch fires 6mm caseless rounds
All have the same fire rate of 800 rpm
The SM63 is the cheapest but it has less accuracy
The SM35 fires expensive rounds but has good stopping capability at close range, and...
dont mind the rounds, theyre there for no reason at all.

bump

[British East Pacific]

Portugal, they don't really fit together well.
Try merging them in paint first.

[The First Awesocracy]

[Jari Head]

Looks around 30mm rounds in that second pic

[Ramsetia]

Looks around 30mm rounds in that second pic

According to Games Workshop, the Bolter fires .700 HE/AP rockets. Rapid-fire. Without any form of recoil absorbing stock.

[Great Valencia]

Recently, we changed from the S-93 to the GX-3


GX-3 SOPMOD

There are two other variants of this rifle, the snowy terrain and SMG version.

Great Valencia did NOT design/create this rifle, we currently own the DPR for it, sponsor it, and have a close alliance with British Kuwait, allowing us to use this rifle almost at will.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=83751

[The First Awesocracy]

Looks around 30mm rounds in that second pic

According to Games Workshop, the Bolter fires .700 HE/AP rockets. Rapid-fire. Without any form of recoil absorbing stock.

Well, it's not like the weapon is intended to be used by normal soldiers...

[United Austrenya]

I really need help:

My army has conducted tests on 4 submachineguns, of wich 2 will enter production. Every weapons engineer in my nation are confused! Every weapon has performed great in tests! Ill show them:

Bravia SM24



Bravia SM35



Bravia SM46



And the Bravia SM63




All of them fire 10 mm Auto rounds except the SM35 wihch fires 6mm caseless rounds
All have the same fire rate of 800 rpm
The SM63 is the cheapest but it has less accuracy
The SM35 fires expensive rounds but has good stopping capability at close range, and...
dont mind the rounds, theyre there for no reason at all.

bump

Agreed, they need to be blended a lot..but the top and bottom look to be promising candidates.

[Vassenor]

Recently, we changed from the S-93 to the GX-3


GX-3 SOPMOD

There are two other variants of this rifle, the snowy terrain and SMG version.

Great Valencia did NOT design/create this rifle, we currently own the DPR for it, sponsor it, and have a close alliance with British Kuwait, allowing us to use this rifle almost at will.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=83751

Mounts for the ACOG, Aimpoint and flashlight are missing, also you appear to be using 30mm grenades with a 40mm launcher.

[Great Valencia]

Recently, we changed from the S-93 to the GX-3


GX-3 SOPMOD

There are two other variants of this rifle, the snowy terrain and SMG version.

Great Valencia did NOT design/create this rifle, we currently own the DPR for it, sponsor it, and have a close alliance with British Kuwait, allowing us to use this rifle almost at will.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=83751

Mounts for the ACOG, Aimpoint and flashlight are missing, also you appear to be using 30mm grenades with a 40mm launcher.

Don't tell me, British Kuwait made it.

[Jari Head]

According to Games Workshop, the Bolter fires .700 HE/AP rockets. Rapid-fire. Without any form of recoil absorbing stock.

Well, it's not like the weapon is intended to be used by normal soldiers...

Yep, the types that carry Bolters could one hand a .50BMG and barely notice the recoil.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Well, it's not like the weapon is intended to be used by normal soldiers...

Yep, the types that carry Bolters could one hand a .50BMG and barely notice the recoil.

Further, being rockets they should have far less recoil than a bullet of that size.

[Slazenagara]

bump

Agreed, they need to be blended a lot..but the top and bottom look to be promising candidates.

I think that the magazine needs to carry a larger rounds. They seem like SMG rounds in an assault rifle.

[Indeos]

Also, quick info/bump on that revolver paradox gun*. It's the primary weapon of an Indeosan company called Argent Defense solutions, that specializes in supernatural threats. All the employees are magic-users, which renders more complex modern firearms unreliable at best(at worst, catastrophic failures are commonplace), and therefore practically worthless. Faced with a choice between generally outdated gear or constant equipment failure, the founder, Jakob Argent, turned to the Ramset company that had created a custom gun for his brother, Sir Jonathan Argent. The result was two 12-gauge paradox guns, perfect for their intended use. Argent employees are also equipped with a variety of swords, maxing out at two feet in length.

The other one.*
J. Argent's personal weapon.*
*Art credit to the amazing Ramsetia.

Bump for new page and updated version of J. Argent's gun.

[Celtica Morgland]

The Lp-50 Flamethrower

[Itailian Maifias]

Also, quick info/bump on that revolver paradox gun*. It's the primary weapon of an Indeosan company called Argent Defense solutions, that specializes in supernatural threats. All the employees are magic-users, which renders more complex modern firearms unreliable at best(at worst, catastrophic failures are commonplace), and therefore practically worthless. Faced with a choice between generally outdated gear or constant equipment failure, the founder, Jakob Argent, turned to the Ramset company that had created a custom gun for his brother, Sir Jonathan Argent. The result was two 12-gauge paradox guns, perfect for their intended use. Argent employees are also equipped with a variety of swords, maxing out at two feet in length.

The other one.*
J. Argent's personal weapon.*
*Art credit to the amazing Ramsetia.

Bump for new page and updated version of J. Argent's gun.

They are amazing

[British Kuwait]

Mounts for the ACOG, Aimpoint and flashlight are missing, also you appear to be using 30mm grenades with a 40mm launcher.

Don't tell me, British Kuwait made it.

Ahem, you can only fit so much into a SOPMOD pic, mounts are included but not in the pic. The grenade launcher and 30 mm grenade are seperate. 30 mm grenade able to be shot off the end of the barrel using a cartridge without a lethal head, just using the powder and casing. It was the only example of a grenade able to be fired like that at the time.

[Indeos]

Bump for new page and updated version of J. Argent's gun.

They are amazing

Ramsetia's work, not mine.

[Licana]

The Lp-50 Flamethrower

Is your nation entirely urban?

[British East Pacific]

bump

Agreed, they need to be blended a lot..but the top and bottom look to be promising candidates.

Fixed the bottom up a bit

[British Kuwait]

What do you guys think of this?

Caliber: 7.62mm, variable.
Rate of Fire: 780-850 RPM
Muzzle Velocity: 790 m/s
Effective Range: 710 m
Magazine: 30 round capacity
Weight: 3.4 kg
Length: 850 mm
Barrel: 413mm, variable.
Firing options: Full auto, burst fire.
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt

Ah yes, it's been upgraded a bit since this model.

[North Amerikan States]

Could anyone please suggest a (non-RL) WW2 era rifle round? I was thinking around 7.85x60. Y/N?

7.5x60mm Luthorian.

It's advantages over my own round?

[Indeos]

I still don't see why SCAR-H isn't sufficient for everything
- 7.62mm NATO goodness
- SLAP ammo capable
- Tacticool-able

- Better rounds exist, especially in NS
- So is everything in NS
- A pretty worthless feature, for the most part

[Indeos]

- Better rounds exist, but it's useful as a standardized cartridge when dealing w/ RL guns. (SCAR, Minimi 7.62, FN MAG. All use 7.62)
(assuming you mixed 2/3)
- SLAP ammo is very useful. NS-grade armor? SLAP that bitch
- True

- Yeah, but in NS you can use any gun as chambered for any ammo, so it isn't that big a deal.
- As I said, anyone in NS can claim they have SLAP ammo.