Main Military Weapon of Your Country (Mk. II)

[Reploid Productions]

Results of 50 Cal round meeting unarmored head.
WARNING! This is not for the weak stomach.
MODEDIT: Let's not link to rule-violating material, k?
even if you could have a helmet that could stop the round you still have all that energy to deal with, at 200 yards a .50 cal still has over half a ton of kenitic energy to transfer on impact.

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[Albrante]

Now I triumphed over my curiosity and didn't look at the image, but as to a helmet being able to stop a .50cal? I doubt it would, the .50 BMG can kill a light armored vehicle, a helmet would be like paper...

[Vassenor]

Now I triumphed over my curiosity and didn't look at the image, but as to a helmet being able to stop a .50cal? I doubt it would, the .50 BMG can kill a light armored vehicle, a helmet would be like paper...

And even if it doesn't, the impact force alone would either snap the target's neck or do serious damage to the brain.

[Ekraysia]

soldiers

[Albrante]

Now I triumphed over my curiosity and didn't look at the image, but as to a helmet being able to stop a .50cal? I doubt it would, the .50 BMG can kill a light armored vehicle, a helmet would be like paper...

And even if it doesn't, the impact force alone would either snap the target's neck or do serious damage to the brain.

Thats a problem with most ballistoc helmets, they can stop some pretty large rounds, but anything bigger than a .45 will put them in a comma unless it hits them at extreme range.

[Albrante]

Could anyone please suggest a (non-RL) WW2 era rifle round? I was thinking around 7.85x60. Y/N?

As a fullproof technique just make it >7mm and rimmed. Pretty much makes it WW2 compatable.

[Portugal 2874]

I really need help:

My army has conducted tests on 4 submachineguns, of wich 2 will enterproduction! Every weapons engineer in my nation is confused! Every weapon has performed great in tests! Ill show them:

Bravia SM24



Bravia SM35



Bravia SM46



And the Bravia SM63




All of them fire 10 mm Auto rounds except the SM35 wihch fires 6mm caseless rounds
All have the same fire rate of 800 rpm
The SM63 is the cheapest but it has less accuracy
The SM35 fires expensive rounds but has good stopping capability at close range, and...
dont mind the rounds, theyre there for no reason at all.

[Indeos]

Alright, this is the mostly un-WIP revolver-style paradox gun that Ramsetia is drawing for me. I'm half-considering asking for a lolmodular version without wood furniture, and with more rails. What does NS think?
Stupid Width Restrictions
*Just in case it wasn't clear, all art credit to Ramsetia*

[The Mako Islands]

SIG SG 550.

[Augarundus]

The Austwehr

[Indeos]

Alright, this is the mostly un-WIP revolver-style paradox gun that Ramsetia is drawing for me. I'm half-considering asking for a lolmodular version without wood furniture, and with more rails. What does NS think?
Stupid Width Restrictions
*Just in case it wasn't clear, all art credit to Ramsetia*

Ramsetia make kickass guns and you and I should that she loans out her skills. At Ramset :

Any critiques on the gun, beyond it being badass?

[Jari Head]

Alright, this is the mostly un-WIP revolver-style paradox gun that Ramsetia is drawing for me. I'm half-considering asking for a lolmodular version without wood furniture, and with more rails. What does NS think?
Stupid Width Restrictions
*Just in case it wasn't clear, all art credit to Ramsetia*

Ramsetia make kickass guns and you and I should that she loans out her skills. At Ramset :

Hmm, looks like someone raided the armory, all I got was 'page not found' when I went to look at the pic.

[Ramsetia]

Here we go

It's my mistake; I thought he'd transferred it over to his own host, so I shuffled around into a different folder on my photobucket.

RE; Barrel size. It's fluted outwards at either end, kind of mimicking the Remmington shotguns. The barrel is appropriately sized for a 19-20mm width shotgun shell of either 10 or 12 gauge.

[Power and Stability]

What do you guys think of this?

Caliber: 7.62mm, variable.
Rate of Fire: 780-850 RPM
Muzzle Velocity: 790 m/s
Effective Range: 710 m
Magazine: 30 round capacity
Weight: 3.4 kg
Length: 850 mm
Barrel: 413mm, variable.
Firing options: Full auto, burst fire.
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt

[North Amerikan States]

Once again, as I seem to have gotten no feedback. 7.8x60mm for a semi-automatic 20-30's battle rifle Y/N?

[Wolohanistan]

Once again, as I seem to have gotten no feedback. 7.8x60mm for a semi-automatic 20-30's battle rifle Y/N?

N
Just use 8mm mauser.

[Indeos]

Here we go

It's my mistake; I thought he'd transferred it over to his own host, so I shuffled around into a different folder on my photobucket.

RE; Barrel size. It's fluted outwards at either end, kind of mimicking the Remmington shotguns. The barrel is appropriately sized for a 19-20mm width shotgun shell of either 10 or 12 gauge.

Alright, thanks. I'll replace that link, though it works fine for me.

Anyhow, more comments/questions?

[North Amerikan States]

Once again, as I seem to have gotten no feedback. 7.8x60mm for a semi-automatic 20-30's battle rifle Y/N?

N
Just use 8mm mauser.

Why? What advantages?

[Wolohanistan]

N
Just use 8mm mauser.

Why? What advantages?

It's a well established round that was common in the 1920s-30s.
I suggested it mostly because I'm fond of the round.

[North Amerikan States]

Why? What advantages?

It's a well established round that was common in the 1920s-30s.
I suggested it mostly because I'm fond of the round.

I don't want to use a real life round, so that said does my round seem good?

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

So, I did a little work on my rifle system, added a medium and large caliber SAW, and a rought outline of my write up as well as an image that used no scale (yes it is based off of the famas).



Advanced Modular Automatic Combat Rifle 1996 (AMACR-96) Pronounced Amacar

AMPAR-96LC (Light Carbine) PDW
Weight: 2.4 kg
Length: 525mm
Barrel length: 200mm
Cartridge: 6.5x25mm Luthorian
Feed system: 20 round box magazine, 30 round box magazine, 50 round quad stacked magazine
Settings: Saftey/ Semi-auto/ Full Auto
RoF: 0 rpm/ 800 rpm/ 800 rpm
Effective range: 100m


AMPAR-96LS (Light Standard) light assault rifle (fills the role of SMGs or could be an assault rifle for SWAT teams)
Weight: 2.9 kg
Length: 725mm
Barrel length: 400mm
Cartridge: 6.5x25mm Luthorian
Feed system: 20 round box magazine, 30 round box magazine, 50 round quad stacked magazine
Settings: Saftey/ Semi-auto/ Full Auto
RoF: 0 rpm/ 800 rpm/ 800 rpm
Effective range: 150m


AMPAR-96LM (Light Marksman) unlikely to be used
Weight: 3.6 kg
Length: 925mm
Barrel length: 600mm
Cartridge: 6.5x25mm Luthorian
Feed system: 20 round box magazine, 30 round box magazine, 50 round quad stacked magazine
Settings: Saftey/ Semi-auto/ Full Auto
RoF: 0 rpm/ 800 rpm/ 800 rpm
Effective range: 200m


AMPAR-96MC (Medium Carbine) standard carbine
Weight: 3.1kg
Length: 755mm
Barrel length: 405mm
Cartridge: 6.5x45mm Luthorian
Feed system: 20 round box magazine, 30 round box magazine, 50 round quad stacked magazine
Settings: Saftey/ Semi-auto/ Full Auto
RoF: 0 rpm/ 800 rpm/ 800 rpm
Effective range: 500m


AMPAR-96MS (Medium Standard) standard assault rifle
Weight: 3.4 kg
Length: 855mm
Barrel length: 505mm
Cartridge: 6.5x45mm Luthorian
Feed system: 20 round box magazine, 30 round box magazine, 50 round quad stacked magazine
Settings: Saftey/ Semi-auto/ Full Auto
RoF: 0 rpm/ 800 rpm/ 800 rpm
Effective range: 600m


AMPAR-96MM (Medium Marksman) police rifle?
Weight: 3.8 kg
Length: 955mm
Barrel length: 605mm
Cartridge: 6.5x45mm Luthorian
Feed system: 20 round box magazine, 30 round box magazine, 50 round quad stacked magazine
Settings: Saftey/ Semi-auto/ Full Auto
RoF: 0 rpm/ 800 rpm/ 800 rpm
Effective range: 600m


AMPAR-96MAR (Medium Automatic Rifle) Export SAW
Weight: 4.5 kg
Length: 955mm
Barrel length: 605mm
Cartridge: 6.5x45mm Luthorian
Feed system: 20 round box magazine, 30 round box magazine, 50 round quad stacked magazine
Settings: Saftey/ Semi-auto/ Full Auto
RoF: 0 rpm/ 800 rpm/ 1000 rpm
Effective range: 600m


AMPAR-96HC (Heavy Carbine) Unlikely to be used, perhaps some exports
Weight:
Length: 765mm
Barrel length: 408mm
Cartridge: 7.5x60mm Luthorian
Feed system: 20 round box magazine, 30 round box magazine, 50 round quad stacked magazine
Settings: Saftey/ Semi-auto
RoF: 0 rpm/ 800 rpm
Effective range: 800m


AMPAR-96HS (Heavy Standard) export battle rifle
Weight: 3.8kg
Length: 865mm
Barrel length: 508mm
Cartridge: 7.5x60mm Luthorian
Feed system: 20 round box magazine, 30 round box magazine, 50 round quad stacked magazine
Settings: Saftey/ Semi-auto
RoF: 0 rpm/ 800 rpm
Effective range: 850m


AMPAR-96HM (Heavy Marksman) DMR
Weight: 4.2kg
Length: 969mm
Barrel length: 612mm
Cartridge: 7.5x60mm Luthorian
Feed system: 20 round box magazine, 30 round box magazine, 50 round quad stacked magazine
Settings: Saftey/ Semi-auto
RoF: 0 rpm/ 800 rpm
Effective range: 900m

AMPAR-96HAR (Heavy Automatic Rifle) Squad Automatic Weapon
Weight: 5.6kg
Length: 969mm
Barrel length: 612mm
Cartridge: 7.5x60mm Luthorian
Feed system: 20 round box magazine, 30 round box magazine, 50 round quad stacked magazine
Settings: Saftey/ Semi-auto/ Full Auto
RoF: 0 rpm/ 800 rpm/ 1000 rpm
Effective range: 900m

Role
The Advanced Modular Automatic Combat Rifle 1996 (AMACR-96) pronounced Amacar ninety six, was designed to be a modular weapon system which could fulfill all of the squad level weapons, allowing soldiers the possibility of both using equipment of dead and wounded comrades, and an easy transition from one weapon system to another due to the very similar layout.

History
Blah blah blah military reforms. Blah blah testing. Blah blah entered service.

Design
Yo this here weapons system gonna use long stroke piston with a Balanced Automatic Recoil System to slightly decrease recoil, and will be forward ejecting, and have rails an' shit, and be fully ambidexterous so that even lefties can use it.

Ammunition
3 different rounds, have many different types of ammunition and other stuff.

[Indeos]

Also, quick info/bump on that revolver paradox gun*. It's the primary weapon of an Indeosan company called Argent Defense solutions, that specializes in supernatural threats. All the employees are magic-users, which renders more complex modern firearms unreliable at best(at worst, catastrophic failures are commonplace), and therefore practically worthless. Faced with a choice between generally outdated gear or constant equipment failure, the founder, Jakob Argent, turned to the Ramset company that had created a custom gun for his brother, Sir Jonathan Argent. The result was two 12-gauge paradox guns, perfect for their intended use. Argent employees are also equipped with a variety of swords, maxing out at two feet in length.

The other one.*
J. Argent's personal weapon.*
*Art credit to the amazing Ramsetia.

Bump for new page and updated version of J. Argent's gun.

[Crookfur]

Once again, as I seem to have gotten no feedback. 7.8x60mm for a semi-automatic 20-30's battle rifle Y/N?

N

Rimless .303


ICly Crookfur did adopt a rimless .303 known as .303 Rimless Henderson aka .303 CF aka .303M1912 (7.7x57mm) in 1912 and it served right up until 1958.

So that could be an option option if you are wanting soemthign NSified that would be reasonably easily available.

[United States of PA]

7.62x64mm Centerfire.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Could anyone please suggest a (non-RL) WW2 era rifle round? I was thinking around 7.85x60. Y/N?

7.5x60mm Luthorian.