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Postby Castleclose » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:38 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Yes, FAL > All.


I thought he was looking for American built weapons. the FAL is better then anything else and I agree.

Although that FGR on page one along with the Galil are tied for second place.
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Postby Rusikstan » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:41 pm

Castleclose wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
Yes, FAL > All.


I thought he was looking for American built weapons. the FAL is better then anything else and I agree.

Although that FGR on page one along with the Galil are tied for second place.


So are we now going for out of RL and NS which are the best?
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.

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United Dependencies wrote:What is the likelihood of a tactical nuke being used in this situation?

Well, the OP was looking for advice for an IC war in II, so I suppose that they would be used almost immediately.
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Postby Wolohanistan » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:42 pm

Here's the latest version of the WMA RSS, the perpetual WIP. This is the mid-length version.
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Postby Rusikstan » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:46 pm

Wolohanistan wrote:Here's the latest version of the WMA RSS, the perpetual WIP. This is the mid-length version.
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Dark rifle is dark...
Very nice wolo though I have this feeling that your rails are too big, but that could just be me.

reminds me I need to shade the AX-59...
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.

lolz ensued

Cyrupe wrote:Canadians are not good at electronics, hence why you never see them at the top of ANYTHING in the technology industry. Bowling ball track pads are the perfect example of this.

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United Dependencies wrote:What is the likelihood of a tactical nuke being used in this situation?

Well, the OP was looking for advice for an IC war in II, so I suppose that they would be used almost immediately.
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Postby L3 Communications » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:56 pm

Rusikstan wrote:
Castleclose wrote:
I thought he was looking for American built weapons. the FAL is better then anything else and I agree.

Although that FGR on page one along with the Galil are tied for second place.


So are we now going for out of RL and NS which are the best?


If we're talking both NS and RL now, well then:

NESR > FN FAL

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Postby Rusikstan » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:01 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Rusikstan wrote:
So are we now going for out of RL and NS which are the best?


If we're talking both NS and RL now, well then:

NESR > FN FAL

dwi


I'm sorry I don't speak fail...

srsly wat is "NESR", refresh my memory.
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.

lolz ensued

Cyrupe wrote:Canadians are not good at electronics, hence why you never see them at the top of ANYTHING in the technology industry. Bowling ball track pads are the perfect example of this.

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United Dependencies wrote:What is the likelihood of a tactical nuke being used in this situation?

Well, the OP was looking for advice for an IC war in II, so I suppose that they would be used almost immediately.
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Postby L3 Communications » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:03 pm

Rusikstan wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
If we're talking both NS and RL now, well then:

NESR > FN FAL

dwi


I'm sorry I don't speak fail...

srsly wat is "NESR", refresh my memory.


http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/ ... c=6114&hl=
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Postby Rusikstan » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:18 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Rusikstan wrote:
I'm sorry I don't speak fail...

srsly wat is "NESR", refresh my memory.


http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/ ... c=6114&hl=


I still like FGR better, we now into opinions, In which case my AX-59 is the best.
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.

lolz ensued

Cyrupe wrote:Canadians are not good at electronics, hence why you never see them at the top of ANYTHING in the technology industry. Bowling ball track pads are the perfect example of this.

Wamitoria wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:What is the likelihood of a tactical nuke being used in this situation?

Well, the OP was looking for advice for an IC war in II, so I suppose that they would be used almost immediately.
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Postby Polvitaria » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:21 pm

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CZ 2000

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Postby Karnei Shomron » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:00 pm

Polvitaria wrote:Image
CZ 2000

Looks okay.
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Postby Albrante » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:52 pm

L3 Communications wrote:Because aesthetic proves rifles.

SA80 is unreliable as hell and jams all the time, and fails in comparison to the L1A1 SLR. I just disproved your theory.


Firstly I like the look of the SA80 family :?
Secondly the A2s are much better, whilst saying they never jam is a bit of an exaggeration the thing is pretty solid nowadays. When it first rolled out there were some problems IIRC due to cleaning. The A1s were seen as something that would fail regardless of cleaning, so soldiers were pretty sloppy cleaning it. This was passed onto the A2 in its earlier years so they continued to fail. Once they re-started proper cleaning the A2s started working properly. Just because the SLRs built like a brick outhouse doesn't mean its the pinnacle of weaponry ;) .
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Postby Castleclose » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:53 pm

Karnei Shomron wrote:
Polvitaria wrote:Image
CZ 2000

Looks okay.


You have to love the lack of reaction something gets when someone actually produces something difficult to fault.
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Postby Albrante » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:08 pm

Castleclose wrote:
Karnei Shomron wrote:Looks okay.


You have to love the lack of reaction something gets when someone actually produces something difficult to fault.

Stocks like that seem fragile to me, no Idea if they are but it looks like it could be snapped fairly easily. If it has Kalashnikov style iron sights It probably wouldn't be to accurate. Thats all I got.

Anyway the reason most people come to this thread is to stops on others faults...
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Postby Freisharf » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:36 pm

Did someone say shading :o
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Edit: Senestrum, feel free to pop along any time now and one-up me.
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Postby United States of PA » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:04 pm

Altamirus wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:


Replace all three of those with 6.5 Arisaka.

Or the NS rimless version, 6.5 Gallan.

@ .257 Weatherby Magnum : I would not use that cartridge if it wasn't for the fact that many nation's armor their infantry to the point that they are almost light vehicles in their protection levels. I'm not dropping the Grendel cause that would mean that everything, my assault rifle, the one Ramsetia so selflessly drew up for me, would have to resize everything about it and I already have enough that I will have to draw. But please go on, I'll read and pay attention to every word you say.



I hope they dont mind when i roleplay their troops being incredibly slow, easy to hit, etc.


Much less the fact they will be getting broken ribs when my 7.62x63mm from mah FN FGRs hits them in the chest.
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Postby Questers » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:29 pm

Re: L85

British Forces are now being equipped with 7.62 NATO rifles, especially more marksman rifles in ordinary fireteams, because the Taliban are shooting our troops from out of return-fire range because the L85 has a rubbish effective range.
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Postby Licana » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:07 pm

Alright, hopefully my new assault rifle. All constructive criticism is welcome, and tell me if there are any errors or inconsistencies (or, just anything that's plain wrong) in the stat block or design.


LDI Mulit-Purpose Adaptable Rifle (MPAR)

Overall Length: 863 mm (33.98 in.)
Barrel Length: 406 mm (16 in.)
Loaded Weight: 3.4 kg (7.496 lbs.)
Width: 78 mm (3.07 in.)
Height: 245 mm (9.65 in.)

Cartridge: 6.8x45 mm
Action: Gas Operated Rotating Bolt
Rate of Fire: 700-800 rounds per minute
Selective Fire: Safe, Semi, Auto
Feed System: 20/30 round box mag, 50/100 round drum mag
Muzzle Velocity: 896 m/s (2,940 ft/s)
Effective Range: 680 meters (2,231 ft.)

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Postby Augarundus » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:38 pm

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Postby L3 Communications » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:46 pm

Altamirus wrote:
United States of PA wrote:

I hope they dont mind when i roleplay their troops being incredibly slow, easy to hit, etc.


Much less the fact they will be getting broken ribs when my 7.62x63mm from mah FN FGRs hits them in the chest.

Ya, Dauntless is cool but the human body designed to carry light vehicle armor loads especially non mechanized units since they are more likely to get exhausted running around and such. The Marine MTV weighs 30 pounds and doesn't ridiculously lumber people because it is better distributed across the wearers chest than regular Interceptor and I've on the PASGT wiki website that many soldiers complain about not being able to catch up with their opponents in the interceptor armor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_Tactical_Vest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improved_Outer_Tactical_Vest and these are realistic in their protection and attempts to distribute weight. They both can stop 7.62 battle rifle rounds (Soviet and American types) but the armor required to stop modernized WM or 30.06's would slow people down severely. But people still, I read on a thread of nation would said that his helmet could save his soldier from a BMG. Dude, for that to take place you would have to wear a goddamn made out of 15 pounds of titanium. :lol:


Any military that can afford Dauntless that isn't fully mechanised is doin it wrong.

And nothing will save you from .50 BMG. Your head would literally fly off.
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Postby British East Pacific » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:02 pm

Meh. Fooling around in PMG, and got this as a result.

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Postby Grand Zulimat » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm

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Postby United States of PA » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm

Dauntless is in fact modular, and with different inserts can attain different levels of protection.


I myself go for Level IIIA as the top end.
In other words, conservatives are generous with their own money, and liberals are generous with other peoples money.
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Postby Albrante » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:07 pm

Questers wrote:Re: L85

British Forces are now being equipped with 7.62 NATO rifles, especially more marksman rifles in ordinary fireteams, because the Taliban are shooting our troops from out of return-fire range because the L85 has a rubbish effective range.

Thats the Stoner derivative right? I wasn't saying anything against the 7.62, just that the FAL isn't the be all and end all of small arms as some here believe it to be.
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Postby Jari Head » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:13 pm

Results of 50 Cal round meeting unarmored head.
WARNING! This is not for the weak stomach.
MODEDIT: Let's not link to rule-violating material, k?
even if you could have a helmet that could stop the round you still have all that energy to deal with, at 200 yards a .50 cal still has over half a ton of kenitic energy to transfer on impact.
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Postby L3 Communications » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:17 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Jari Head wrote:Results of 50 Cal round meeting unarmored head.
WARNING! This is not for the weak stomach.
MODEDIT: Let's not link to rule-violating material, k?
even if you could have a helmet that could stop the round you still have all that energy to deal with, at 200 yards a .50 cal still has over half a ton of kenitic energy to transfer on impact.

Shitty shot


how so?
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