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Karnei Shomron
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Postby Karnei Shomron » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:19 pm

Tiamus wrote:I'll give you both the benefit of the doubt on this one and apologize for my outburst. But I could care less for spelling mistakes. I go onto forums for recreation, not for spelling lessons and attitude.

And just because I said something that is obvious to you it does not mean it is obvious to somebody who, say, was thinking about using rail/coil guns as a viable infantry weapon. I posted that for the fellow who was asking about it as a way to help him see some of the practical and mechanical hurdles that need to be overcome.

If you wanted to argue on the substance of my post then you should have picked something out and started there. Pointing and yelling "lol you spelled it wrong" as your only reply is stupid.

I'm sorry.
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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
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Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
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Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
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Castleclose
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Postby Castleclose » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:20 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Castleclose wrote:
I'm using Firefox spellcheck too and your canceled is coming up wrong.

Cancelled however is correct.


My Firefox spell check says cancelled is wrong, but canceled is correct.

It also says spellcheck is wrong.

So where does this leave us?


You using Yank issue or Queen's issue?
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Postby St George of England » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:20 pm

on topic: any point in a shotgun for my SF troops or just give them a battle rifle with a lolhuge stopping power round?
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Postby New Tesslandia » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:20 pm

Sorry if I get this conversation of track but...

New Tesslandian Soldiers use this:
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Caliber: 7.7x55mm
Feed: 20 round box
Fire Mode: semi or full auto
Note: While the rifle is nearly always fired on semi, complaints by ground troops resulted in the inclusion of a full auto setting.

ooc: Yes, I know it's an M14E2, I'm working on an original design.
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Postby Castleclose » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:22 pm

New Tesslandia wrote:Sorry if I get this conversation of track but...

New Tesslandian Soldiers use this:
Image
Caliber: 7.7x55mm
Feed: 20 round box
Fire Mode: semi or full auto

ooc: Yes, I know it's an M14E2, I'm working on an original design.


Remove the full auto. It's just a waste of ammo.
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Karnei Shomron
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Postby Karnei Shomron » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:23 pm

Castleclose wrote:
New Tesslandia wrote:Sorry if I get this conversation of track but...

New Tesslandian Soldiers use this:
Image
Caliber: 7.7x55mm
Feed: 20 round box
Fire Mode: semi or full auto

ooc: Yes, I know it's an M14E2, I'm working on an original design.


Remove the full auto. It's just a waste of ammo.

Depends on the situation.
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me-- and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Tiamus
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Postby Tiamus » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:23 pm

Wow, you people reply fast.

@ Karnei
No harm done that was not meant to be done. Thank you for your concern and I am sorry for my outburst.

@ St George
Um... You could use an AA12 with slugs.

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L3 Communications
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Postby L3 Communications » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:24 pm

New Tesslandia wrote:Sorry if I get this conversation of track but...

New Tesslandian Soldiers use this:
Image
Caliber: 7.7x55mm
Feed: 20 round box
Fire Mode: semi or full auto

ooc: Yes, I know it's an M14E2, I'm working on an original design.


Is it bad I thought this was a terrible (not like badly done, but hideous) photoshop until I saw the OOC message?
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Postby Ramsetia » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:24 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
New Tesslandia wrote:Sorry if I get this conversation of track but...

New Tesslandian Soldiers use this:
Image
Caliber: 7.7x55mm
Feed: 20 round box
Fire Mode: semi or full auto

ooc: Yes, I know it's an M14E2, I'm working on an original design.


Is it bad I thought this was a terrible (not like badly done, but hideous) photoshop until I saw the OOC message?


That depends. Did you still think it was a terrible picture AFTER you saw the OOC message?
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L3 Communications
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Postby L3 Communications » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:25 pm

Ramsetia wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
Is it bad I thought this was a terrible (not like badly done, but hideous) photoshop until I saw the OOC message?


That depends. Did you still think it was a terrible picture AFTER you saw the OOC message?


Doesn't change the fact it's ugly.

Although, for some reasons, it makes it slightly better that it's real.
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Karnei Shomron
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Postby Karnei Shomron » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:25 pm

Tiamus wrote:Wow, you people reply fast.

@ Karnei
No harm done that was not meant to be done. Thank you for your concern and I am sorry for my outburst.

@ St George
Um... You could use an AA12 with slugs.

It's okay. I can set your nation up with some aircraft, ships, the whole nine yards. Telegram me to accept.
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me-- and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Wolohanistan
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Postby Wolohanistan » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:26 pm

Ramsetia wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
Is it bad I thought this was a terrible (not like badly done, but hideous) photoshop until I saw the OOC message?


That depends. Did you still think it was a terrible picture AFTER you saw the OOC message?


I was going to comment on the mad phtoshop skillz, but it looks like I'm mistaken.
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Tiamus
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Postby Tiamus » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:26 pm

@ Karnie
Do you mean In Character or Out of Character?

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Castleclose
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Postby Castleclose » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:27 pm

Karnei Shomron wrote:
Castleclose wrote:
Remove the full auto. It's just a waste of ammo.

Depends on the situation.


At twenty rounds all you've got is a slightly lighter BAR. It's a good Battle-rifle but not assault. Just use a M16A1 if your looking for a sixties era rifle.
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Karnei Shomron
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Postby Karnei Shomron » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:28 pm

Tiamus wrote:@ Karnie
Do you mean In Character or Out of Character?

In character.
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me-- and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Postby Ramsetia » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:29 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Ramsetia wrote:
That depends. Did you still think it was a terrible picture AFTER you saw the OOC message?


Doesn't change the fact it's ugly.

Although, for some reasons, it makes it slightly better that it's real.


Then no, it's not a bad thing that you felt that way.
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Postby Old Beringia » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:30 pm

Old Beringia wrote:Image

Production History
Name: FlkA-770 Rv.2
Type: Designated Marksman Rifle
First Produced: 2008 (Revised 2010)
Designed By: Falken Arms of Battery Park City

Specifications
Weight (Unloaded): 4.7 kg
Weight (Loaded): 5.4 kg
Length: 983 mm
Barrel length: 529 mm

Cartridge: .257 Weatherby Magnum
Action: Gas Operated, Rotating Bolt
Rate of fire: Semi-Automatic
Muzzle velocity: 1,050 m/s
Effective range: 850+ m
Feed system: 20 Round Detachable Box Magazine
Sights: Iron Sights (Rear Aperture, Front Post), 5x Telescopic Sights

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Postby L3 Communications » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:30 pm

Castleclose wrote:
Karnei Shomron wrote:Depends on the situation.


At twenty rounds all you've got is a slightly lighter BAR. It's a good Battle-rifle but not assault. Just use a M16A1 if your looking for a sixties era rifle.


If I were him, I'd prefer not to have all my men die in firefights due to carbon fouling.

M16 is worst implementation of DI gas ever.

Use AR-16 instead. Short stroke gas piston + 7.62 NATO = better.
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Karnei Shomron
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Postby Karnei Shomron » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:31 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Ramsetia wrote:
That depends. Did you still think it was a terrible picture AFTER you saw the OOC message?


Doesn't change the fact it's ugly.

Although, for some reasons, it makes it slightly better that it's real.

An ugly weapon can kill as fast or faster than a good looking weapon.
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me-- and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Postby Castleclose » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:32 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Castleclose wrote:
At twenty rounds all you've got is a slightly lighter BAR. It's a good Battle-rifle but not assault. Just use a M16A1 if your looking for a sixties era rifle.


If I were him, I'd prefer not to have all my men die in firefights due to carbon fouling.

M16 is worst implementation of DI gas ever.

Use AR-16 instead. Short stroke gas piston + 7.62 NATO = better.


I went for the A1 for the mod's over the original but the AR is a good choice too.

Personally I would suggest the FAL but that's because I'm a FN fan boy.
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Tiamus
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Postby Tiamus » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:32 pm

Maybe I will. I don't have any need for ships but having a viable means to aquire air craft that I can not produce locally would be good.

And to not make this an off-topic spam post, I was figuring to use the FN FAL as my main infantry rifle with cut down versions for assault roles. That takes care of the lack of penetration and stopping power that 5.56mm rifles have while giving me superior range in an open conflict. Unless my soldiers spazz out they can make do with the usual double-tap or even a single-tap and trust the greater stopping power of the 7.62x51mm round to do the job of two 5.56mm bullets.

Pluss they're cheap, rugged and dependable for a third-world country.

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Postby L3 Communications » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:32 pm

Karnei Shomron wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
Doesn't change the fact it's ugly.

Although, for some reasons, it makes it slightly better that it's real.

An ugly weapon can kill as fast or faster than a good looking weapon.


Because aesthetic proves rifles.

SA80 is unreliable as hell and jams all the time, and fails in comparison to the L1A1 SLR. I just disproved your theory.

Castleclose wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
If I were him, I'd prefer not to have all my men die in firefights due to carbon fouling.

M16 is worst implementation of DI gas ever.

Use AR-16 instead. Short stroke gas piston + 7.62 NATO = better.


I went for the A1 for the mod's over the original but the AR is a good choice too.

Personally I would suggest the FAL but that's because I'm a FN fan boy.


I thought we were just talking Armalite/Stoner weapons.

Yes, FAL > All.
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Postby The Corparation » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:34 pm

Tiamus wrote:@ St George
Um... You could use an AA12 with slugs.

Why not just use a regular machine gun? More accurate and more rounds.
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Postby L3 Communications » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:35 pm

St George of England wrote:on topic: any point in a shotgun for my SF troops or just give them a battle rifle with a lolhuge stopping power round?


KS-23

Bare minimum for NS.

M79 and M203 is standard shotguns.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:35 pm

Karnei Shomron wrote:
Castleclose wrote:
Remove the full auto. It's just a waste of ammo.

Depends on the situation.

Not with such a large round. Unless it is a SAW or something he should remove the full auto.
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