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Postby Crookfur » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:47 am

Questers wrote:the carbne i was workin on

AGAIN havent decided on a calibre

anyone who suggests 6mm can gtfo


4.85mm :p


Or more seriously .300 Whisper (or whatever name you want to use for it).
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Postby Indeos » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:51 am

Questers wrote:the carbne i was workin on

AGAIN havent decided on a calibre

anyone who suggests 6mm can gtfo


7.5mm Swiss?

.300 Whisper wouldn't be a bad choice either, but it seems like more of a SF cartridge.
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Postby Questers » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:52 am

British East Pacific wrote:
Questers wrote:
The charging handle could be on the other side, to be fair. I can't see it on the drawing, so it must be on the other side.

It's built like the M16/M4, So the Mechanism would be at the top.

Which is clearly blacked by ugly fixed stocks.

In your bullet caliber predicament, your Mag looks about a 5.56mm.
don't hurt me
It isn't built like the M16 though. It just looks like it - doesn't mean that the charging handle has to be in the same slot. It can just be on the other side aligned to the bolt carrier, kinda like the FAL. It is gas-operated but importantly the piston is of a different construction and we don't know what type of gas operation it is.
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Postby Indeos » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:54 am

Questers wrote:
British East Pacific wrote:It's built like the M16/M4, So the Mechanism would be at the top.

Which is clearly blacked by ugly fixed stocks.

In your bullet caliber predicament, your Mag looks about a 5.56mm.
don't hurt me
It isn't built like the M16 though. It just looks like it - doesn't mean that the charging handle has to be in the same slot. It can just be on the other side aligned to the bolt carrier, kinda like the FAL. It is gas-operated but importantly the piston is of a different construction and we don't know what type of gas operation it is.


Long-stroke piston, IIRC.
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British East Pacific
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Postby British East Pacific » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:54 am

Questers wrote:
British East Pacific wrote:It's built like the M16/M4, So the Mechanism would be at the top.

Which is clearly blacked by ugly fixed stocks.

In your bullet caliber predicament, your Mag looks about a 5.56mm.
don't hurt me
It isn't built like the M16 though. It just looks like it - doesn't mean that the charging handle has to be in the same slot. It can just be on the other side aligned to the bolt carrier, kinda like the FAL. It is gas-operated but importantly the piston is of a different construction and we don't know what type of gas operation it is.

It has the same receiver as the M16/M4. And, unless edited out by paint, it will still (At least, Aesthetically) look like the charging mechanism is blocked.
If I'm RPing PT, I'll be referring to myself as Bosphoria (Bosporia). If I RP in MT/PMT, I'll refer to myself as East Bosporia-Alania. If I RP in FT, I will be referring to myself as The Coalition of Centrist Confederate States of Bosporia Alania, or CCCSBP.
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Postby Questers » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:55 am

Indeos wrote:
Questers wrote:the carbne i was workin on

AGAIN havent decided on a calibre

anyone who suggests 6mm can gtfo


7.5mm Swiss?

.300 Whisper wouldn't be a bad choice either, but it seems like more of a SF cartridge.
I already use 7.5 Swiss in my service rifle - this is intended for Mechanised Infantry (hence the name; Sandakan Arms Mechanised Infantry Rifle) so I don't need a full power round. Although it will never actually be issued to them so I don't see why it matters, really. For the record I chose .300 Whisper (7.8 x 34)
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Postby Bafuria » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:57 am

Bafuria wrote:http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af198/Grjonagrautur94/Kalashnikovfulllength.png

Rifle
Length: 1000 mm
Barrel Length: 460 mm
Empty weight: 3.4 Kg
loaded weight: 4.0 Kg
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt.
Caliber: 6.5 Grendel
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Effective range: 100-600 m sight adjustments, 800+ m with optics.
Feed system: 20 or 30 round box magazine.

Carbine
Length (stock extended): 872 mm
Length (stock folded): 626 mm
Barrel length: 332 mm
Empty weight: 2.8 Kg
Loaded weight: 3.4 Kg
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt.
Caliber: 6.5 Grendel
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Effective range: 100-600 m sight adjustments.
Feed system: 20 or 30 round box magazine


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Postby Questers » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:58 am

British East Pacific wrote:
Questers wrote: It isn't built like the M16 though. It just looks like it - doesn't mean that the charging handle has to be in the same slot. It can just be on the other side aligned to the bolt carrier, kinda like the FAL. It is gas-operated but importantly the piston is of a different construction and we don't know what type of gas operation it is.

It has the same receiver as the M16/M4. And, unless edited out by paint, it will still (At least, Aesthetically) look like the charging mechanism is blocked.
While I agree that the use of the Armalite receiver sort of makes it appear as if the charging handle must necessarily be in the same place, which is visually confusing, it isn't technically true. In the design it says short-stroke and Indeos just said long-stroke, but either way, so long as the piston and the bolt carrier connect in a place where the charging handle can be mounted to the side, the problem is solved.
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Postby British East Pacific » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:59 am

Bafuria wrote:
Bafuria wrote:http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af198/Grjonagrautur94/Kalashnikovfulllength.png

Rifle
Length: 1000 mm
Barrel Length: 460 mm
Empty weight: 3.4 Kg
loaded weight: 4.0 Kg
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt.
Caliber: 6.5 Grendel
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Effective range: 100-600 m sight adjustments, 800+ m with optics.
Feed system: 20 or 30 round box magazine.

Carbine
Length (stock extended): 872 mm
Length (stock folded): 626 mm
Barrel length: 332 mm
Empty weight: 2.8 Kg
Loaded weight: 3.4 Kg
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt.
Caliber: 6.5 Grendel
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Effective range: 100-600 m sight adjustments.
Feed system: 20 or 30 round box magazine


Can I has feedback?

Pretty good, I wish I could draw like that.
Reminds me of the Galil.
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Postby Indeos » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:00 am

Questers wrote:
Indeos wrote:
7.5mm Swiss?

.300 Whisper wouldn't be a bad choice either, but it seems like more of a SF cartridge.
I already use 7.5 Swiss in my service rifle - this is intended for Mechanised Infantry (hence the name; Sandakan Arms Mechanised Infantry Rifle) so I don't need a full power round. Although it will never actually be issued to them so I don't see why it matters, really. For the record I chose .300 Whisper (7.8 x 34)


I figured you used the 7.5 Swiss, just thought it would be good for logistics. The .300 Whisper is a pretty interesting round, actually. I'll have to find some way to adopt it that doesn't involve dropping my current revolver-style paradox gun...
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Postby Wolohanistan » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:06 am

British East Pacific wrote:
Wolohanistan wrote:That's the Anglo Saxon Empire's rifle.
And it's one of the few PMG rifles that isn't poorly cobbled togetether.
It does have a rail along the top of the receiver, I doubt it would need anymore. It's a used by the A.S.E militia, who seem to be cannon fodder.

Its Cocking Mechanism is still blocked. And Mine are not what you cal "Cobbled Together"

And I wasn't implying yours are "cobbled together".
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Postby British East Pacific » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:17 am

Indeos wrote: The .300 Whisper is a pretty interesting round, actually. I'll have to find some way to adopt it that doesn't involve dropping my current revolver-style paradox gun...

I smell a giant-Machine Pistol with a huge Caliber!
If I'm RPing PT, I'll be referring to myself as Bosphoria (Bosporia). If I RP in MT/PMT, I'll refer to myself as East Bosporia-Alania. If I RP in FT, I will be referring to myself as The Coalition of Centrist Confederate States of Bosporia Alania, or CCCSBP.
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Postby Wolohanistan » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:19 am

British East Pacific wrote:
Indeos wrote: The .300 Whisper is a pretty interesting round, actually. I'll have to find some way to adopt it that doesn't involve dropping my current revolver-style paradox gun...

I smell a giant-Machine Pistol with a huge Caliber!

With matching wrist brace!
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Postby British East Pacific » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:22 am

Wolohanistan wrote:
British East Pacific wrote:I smell a giant-Machine Pistol with a huge Caliber!

With matching wrist brace!

YESYESYES
If I'm RPing PT, I'll be referring to myself as Bosphoria (Bosporia). If I RP in MT/PMT, I'll refer to myself as East Bosporia-Alania. If I RP in FT, I will be referring to myself as The Coalition of Centrist Confederate States of Bosporia Alania, or CCCSBP.
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Postby Indeos » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:24 am

British East Pacific wrote:
Indeos wrote: The .300 Whisper is a pretty interesting round, actually. I'll have to find some way to adopt it that doesn't involve dropping my current revolver-style paradox gun...

I smell a giant-Machine Pistol with a huge Caliber!


I was thinking more lolmodular bullpup AR for some nonexistent SF unit...
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Postby Khytenna » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:25 am

Questers wrote:the carbne i was workin on

AGAIN havent decided on a calibre

anyone who suggests 6mm can gtfo


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Postby Janmoskarin » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:27 am

It is known as the Real Knock Out. We usually call it the RKO.

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Postby British East Pacific » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:28 am

Image

My work is complete
If I'm RPing PT, I'll be referring to myself as Bosphoria (Bosporia). If I RP in MT/PMT, I'll refer to myself as East Bosporia-Alania. If I RP in FT, I will be referring to myself as The Coalition of Centrist Confederate States of Bosporia Alania, or CCCSBP.
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Postby Indeos » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:30 am

British East Pacific wrote:Image

My work is complete


Kill it with fire nukes antimatter.
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Postby The Land of Niet » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:39 am

We have sattelite broadcast based secretly piped-in annoying songs, subliminally streamed into enemy brains.

Continuos 24/7 subliminal playing of song "I'm a single lady" in one's head causes terminal cerebral damage and disorientation, rendering our enemy as drooling cow like creature.

Delivery system is dispersed around the Globe by our secret spies, who appear under disguise of disc jokeys, gym instructors , social study teachers and wedding singers.

Songs of Barry Manilow is our main strategic deterrent weapon from which there's no defence.

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Postby Janmoskarin » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:41 am

The Land of Niet wrote:We have sattelite broadcast based secretly piped-in annoying songs, subliminally streamed into enemy brains.

Continuos 24/7 subliminal playing of song "I'm a single lady" in one's head causes terminal cerebral damage and disorientation, rendering our enemy as drooling cow like creature.

Delivery system is dispersed around the Globe by our secret spies, who appear under disguise of disc jokeys, gym instructors , social study teachers and wedding singers.

Songs of Barry Manilow is our main strategic deterrent weapon from which there's no defence.

Fear us.

Justin Bieber crap is a lot more devistating and annoying

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Postby Old Beringia » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:41 am

Image
What would be a good round to chamber this in? Perhaps .30-06?
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Postby Itailian Maifias » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:43 am

Old Beringia wrote:Image
What would be a good round to chamber this in? Perhaps .30-06?

I say 30.03
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Postby British East Pacific » Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:02 am

The Land of Niet wrote:We have sattelite broadcast based secretly piped-in annoying songs, subliminally streamed into enemy brains.

Continuos 24/7 subliminal playing of song "I'm a single lady" in one's head causes terminal cerebral damage and disorientation, rendering our enemy as drooling cow like creature.

Delivery system is dispersed around the Globe by our secret spies, who appear under disguise of disc jokeys, gym instructors , social study teachers and wedding singers.

Songs of Barry Manilow is our main strategic deterrent weapon from which there's no defence.

Fear us.

I know I do.
If I'm RPing PT, I'll be referring to myself as Bosphoria (Bosporia). If I RP in MT/PMT, I'll refer to myself as East Bosporia-Alania. If I RP in FT, I will be referring to myself as The Coalition of Centrist Confederate States of Bosporia Alania, or CCCSBP.
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Postby British East Pacific » Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:03 am

Indeos wrote:
British East Pacific wrote:Image

My work is complete


Kill it with fire nukes antimatter.

Muahahahaha My .300 Whisper side arm :P
If I'm RPing PT, I'll be referring to myself as Bosphoria (Bosporia). If I RP in MT/PMT, I'll refer to myself as East Bosporia-Alania. If I RP in FT, I will be referring to myself as The Coalition of Centrist Confederate States of Bosporia Alania, or CCCSBP.
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