Main Military Weapon of Your Country (Mk. II)

[Indeos]

electronic bulletproof glasses

Those glasses must f****** thick

And fairly expensive. Not worth it in MT, really, cause eyes aren't a priority target. And you'd have one hell of a headache, on account of the bullet's energy being concentrated into the part of the goggles that's in contact with your face. I doubt visibility would be much good, or that they could withstand more than one or two shots.

[Wolohanistan]

Those glasses must f****** thick

And fairly expensive. Not worth it in MT, really, cause eyes aren't a priority target. And you'd have one hell of a headache, on account of the bullet's energy being concentrated into the part of the goggles that's in contact with your face. I doubt visibility would be much good, or that they could withstand more than one or two shots.

It'd be like the old gag of putting boot polish on some binoculars.
Exept with severe trauma to the face.

[Tsarist China]

electronic bulletproof glasses

Those glasses must f****** thick

...2.5mm polycarbonate is thick itt.

Those glasses must f****** thick

And fairly expensive. Not worth it in MT, really, cause eyes aren't a priority target. And you'd have one hell of a headache, on account of the bullet's energy being concentrated into the part of the goggles that's in contact with your face. I doubt visibility would be much good, or that they could withstand more than one or two shots.

tell that to every member of the US Army who wears ESS eyeglasses/goggles.

Seriously. Those things can take an ass whooping, like .22 LR at point blank, or shrapnel from a 7.62x54mmR, or a load of 00 Buck at 30 feet.

[Senestrum]

Transparent ceramic visor backed by polycarbonate for spall catching.

Problem, small arms?

[New Korongo]

but they are not bullet proof

[Person012345]

Although most battles take place in space between warships, an energy weapon utilising photon weapons technology to render the opponent unable to continue the fight immediately, rather than killing them outright (though accidents do happen), is used by our ground forces when occupying enemy settlements. As very little military - military combat happens on the ground, the only threat our troops usually face is the occasional civilian insurgency.

[Oterro]

I don't suppose anyone could recommend something for a PT nation, specifically that of 1830 technology? Muskets and whatnot.

[Tsarist China]

Transparent ceramic visor backed by polycarbonate for spall catching.

Problem, small arms?

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oh god my neck is breaking from the weight D: D: D:

[Deutschland-Prussia]

Mauser Kar98k

[Bafuria]

Transparent ceramic visor backed by polycarbonate for spall catching.

Problem, small arms?

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Problem, intracranial pressure?

[New Korongo]

I don't suppose anyone could recommend something for a PT nation, specifically that of 1830 technology? Muskets and whatnot.

Brunswick or Baker rifle

[Oterro]

I don't suppose anyone could recommend something for a PT nation, specifically that of 1830 technology? Muskets and whatnot.

Brunswick or Baker rifle

The Baker rifle would be outdated, as breech loading rifles would be available. As for the brunswick, I couldn't find anything about it.

[New Korongo]

The brunswick was made in 1836 so it might be too advanced for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunswick_rifle

[New Korongo]

If you want breech loading try the Ferguson rifle

[Oterro]

If you want breech loading try the Ferguson rifle

I'll have a look and discuss with my RP partner, thanks for the recommendations.

[Senestrum]

Transparent ceramic visor backed by polycarbonate for spall catching.

Problem, small arms?

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oh god my neck is breaking from the weight D: D: D:

This much will stop .50 BMG.

Wanna bet on how thin it would be if it was only supposed to defend against 5.56 and below?

Edit: wait forgot trollface

[Tsarist China]

oh god my neck is breaking from the weight D: D: D:

This much will stop .50 BMG.

Wanna bet on how thin it would be if it was only supposed to defend against 5.56 and below?

Edit: wait forgot trollface

fff--

that's awesome

[Oterro]

I don't suppose anyone could recommend something for a PT nation, specifically that of 1830 technology? Muskets and whatnot.

Flintlock Muskets and a bayonet

Don't bother upgrading till 1870, the French beat Italian units equipped with rifles handily with muskets using glorious column.

Not to mention Industrialism won't catch up to be able to mass produce breechloaders until 1860-70

I abhor breech loaders. Unfortunately, my friend, who I intend to RP with mostly, has some sort of fetish for them.

[New Korongo]

or atleast leave an inch deep imprint of the goggle on his face

[Oterro]

Well, I admit Nick's way of fighting is the definitely the most courageous, and it sounds as if it's the funnest. As for most effective, well I'll need to see. Oh, and by the way, the skirmish line was most definitely in use before the American civil war.

[Senestrum]

This much will stop .50 BMG.

Wanna bet on how thin it would be if it was only supposed to defend against 5.56 and below?

Edit: wait forgot trollface

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I still bet the raw shock of the 50 BMG would kill the guy wearing it.

bolded the part you missed btw

.50 BMG is way beyond what is worth armoring infantrymen against

roantank, on the other hand, will take just about anything short of 20mm autocannon fire to the sight housings, trololo

[Oterro]

I still bet the raw shock of the 50 BMG would kill the guy wearing it.

bolded the part you missed btw

.50 BMG is way beyond what is worth armoring infantrymen against

roantank, on the other hand, will take just about anything short of 20mm autocannon fire to the sight housings, trololo

It's like you're speaking another language. Christ, this is one of the reasons I avoided MT.

[Oterro]

Well, I admit Nick's way of fighting is the definitely the most courageous, and it sounds as if it's the funnest. As for most effective, well I'll need to see. Oh, and by the way, the skirmish line was most definitely in use before the American civil war.

Remember the Franco-Prussian war. A far more modern war then the American civil war with both sides using breechloaders.

Germans won with columns, elan, and bayonets (which caused 10% of casualties)
*Snip*

So you recommend the column formation? I had always thought that was pretty flawed, what with limiting the amount of men that can fire so drastically.

[Jordtopia]

Well, I admit Nick's way of fighting is the definitely the most courageous, and it sounds as if it's the funnest. As for most effective, well I'll need to see. Oh, and by the way, the skirmish line was most definitely in use before the American civil war.

Remember the Franco-Prussian war. A far more modern war then the American civil war with both sides using breechloaders.

Germans won with columns, elan, and bayonets (which caused 10% of casualties)

Indeed, the main rifle the Germans used during the Franco-Prussian War was the Dreyse Needle Gun, the world's first breech-loading bolt-action rifle ever put into service in large numbers and adopted by a national military.

Compare this to the Civil War, where both sides employed large numbers of both old (flintlock) and new (percussion cap) muzzle-loading muskets/rifle-muskets, with breech-loaders being employed in smaller numbers, mostly with the cavalry.

[Oterro]

Remember the Franco-Prussian war. A far more modern war then the American civil war with both sides using breechloaders.

Germans won with columns, elan, and bayonets (which caused 10% of casualties)
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Indeed, the main rifle the Germans used during the Franco-Prussian War was the Dreyse Needle Gun, the world's first breech-loading bolt-action rifle ever put into service in large numbers and adopted by a national military.

Compare this to the Civil War, where both sides employed large numbers of both old (flintlock) and new (percussion cap) muzzle-loading muskets/rifle-muskets, with breech-loaders being employed in smaller numbers, mostly with the cavalry.

Yeah I was about to bring that up; that's what helped them beat the Austrians, no?