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by Cathalysto » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:25 am
by The Steel Fraternity » Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:59 am
by The Steel Fraternity » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:03 pm
by The Steel Fraternity » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:12 pm
Atheimsa wrote:Full Nation Name:The disputed Territories of Atheimsa
Name:AtheimsaStance On:
Republicanism:ok
Anarchy:not okay
Totalitarianism:not okay at all
Capitalism:in moderation
Communism:nah
Socialism:in moderation
Fascism:never
Monarchy:meh depends what kind of constituional okay absolute not
Abortion:free to 12 weeks unless life threatening,
Alcohol:beer and wine 16 , hard spirits 20
Drugs:20y
Homosexuality:no problem
Death Penalty:outlawed
Militaries:navy and army
Gun Control:strict (only allowed to keep guns and similar in sport clubs and professional hunting)
Religion:the fellowship of the light side of the force as well as several spirtual religions in the rural villages
Slavery:outlawed
Expansionism:meh we don't take any that is already belonging to anybody else
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity:don't like the lack of political freedoms
Racial Superiority: there is no race(last one died out when the neanderthal died)ethinicism is condemned
]The Environment:[/b]more important than business
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights:dunno what they are all called in English but the same + some more as in so called western countries,
Universal Human Rights:same as above
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms:same as above
Universal Individual Freedom:same as above
SCIENCE!:funded
Education:funded
Industry:not too bad either
by Wolny Kraj » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:22 pm
by Conservatives states » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:33 pm
by The Steel Fraternity » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:36 pm
Cathalysto wrote:Full Nation Name: The Total Neocentrist Empire of Cathalysto
Name: CathalystoStance On:
Republicanism: Not bad, but too fragile.. easy to destroy.
Anarchy: Good ideology, bad application.
Totalitarianism: So bad. People will get angry easily, you need a cross between a free and a dictatorial system.
Capitalism: Best system by now. It has to be controlled carefully, it's fragile. Anyways the neoliberalism sucks a lot.
Communism: The basic idea it's good but the application is a piece of shit. It's so unreal.. the only good thing is that promotes the atheism.
Socialism: Not bad. A combination of a capitalist and a socialist societies will be perfect.
Fascism: The extremes touch themselves. Bad, bad, bad... and also promotes the religion!!
Monarchy: Piece of shit.
Abortion: Good and bad. The controlled and careful abortion of a 1-3 months fetus is accepted, but the massive abortion and the brutish operations (like the abortion of a 6-7 months fetus) is not tolerate.
Alcohol: Same as abortion. Controlled and careful drink is not bad, a night of drinking is not bad. But drink and after: drive, is penalized with some jail months.
Drugs: Must be destroyed.. ALL!
Homosexuality: I don't consider it a problem. It's just another fact in the human (and animal) beings (gay/lesbian people are normal people).
Death Penalty: It's sad to say, but there are some people that are IMPOSSIBLE to rehabilitate. People who have killed about dozens of citizens and are the darkest terrorists in the society and they don't appreciate the life. Only that type of criminals must be killed!
Militaries: When a m*therfucker comes to invade your nation, that incredible men sacrifice their life for any meter of any cities. OF COURSE, are necessary.
Gun Control: ANY person that haven't served the military for about 5 years CAN'T have guns (except the police). Have one illegal gun is penalized with one jail year.
Religion: One of the WORST things of the humanity, it has stopped the human technology and advance for hundreds of years. Must be purged, destroyed, burned and buried. The religion is a cancer.
Slavery: Have to be abolished.
Expansionism: Only if you have too many citizens (about millions) in a small area and you need more territories.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: I'll give my opinion when I have more information.
Racial Superiority: Have to be penalized. The racism is another cancer o the humanity.
The Environment: VERY IMPORTANT! We owe everything to nature Pollute is completely illegal.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights, Universal Human Rights, What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms & Universal Individual Freedom: The empire have got a particularly concept of them. You have to give some freedom to your citizens but not an excessive freedom so then citizens will take advantage about it and probably rebel. Inside the freedom that you give them, they can do whatever they want about their lives (except be religious and confront violently to the government and the emperor). It isn't a dictatorship, so people can be gay/lesbian without any problem, they can travel where they want of the planet without any permission and do more things with total freedom.
SCIENCE!: As the environment, is very important and it's the cause of the humanity advance
Education: Important, so children have to grow up with good moral ideas, with respect to the neighbor and without any god existing idea. Religious schools are completely illegal.
Industry: Good , productive and clean Pollute and slavery are banned with some jail years.
by The Steel Fraternity » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:41 pm
Wolny Kraj wrote:Full Nation Name: The Communist Polish Republic of Wolny Kraj
Name:Wolny KrajStance On:
Republicanism: if it's the American kind, we hate it.
Anarchy: meh. not our cup of tea, but not as bad as some.
Totalitarianism: we won't stand for it.
Capitalism: sickens us
Communism: the way to be!
Socialism: you're getting there, comrade.
Fascism: an abomination
Monarchy: total crap
Abortion: okay in some cases, not in others.
Alcohol: we're Polish. We fricking love it.
Drugs: meh, if you're informed of the risks, you should be allowed to throw your life away.
Homosexuality: in the army, we pretend to be anti-gay but we really don't care. Gays are allowed to adopt and marry.
Death Penalty: depends
Militaries: we like to be well defended, but too much can be oppressive.
Gun Control: strict as can be
Religion: all for it, we're Christian communists.
Slavery: no way.
Expansionism: if it's at the cost of other nations than no, but if not it's fine.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: no idea
Racial Superiority: hellz to the no
The Environment: a high priority.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: I'll do this one later.
Universal Human Rights: necessary
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: I'll do this one later
Universal Individual Freedom: not sure
SCIENCE!: good I guess.
Education: high priority, it fixes all other problems like poverty and racism.
Industry: as long as it's not at the expense of the environment.
by The Steel Fraternity » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:43 pm
Conservatives states wrote:Full Nation Name: The Industrial Supernation of Conservatives states
Name: Duke Joshua LamptonStance On:
Republicanism: Neutral
Anarchy: For, doesn't really matter on what form. As long as it suits the needs of our people. Most of our people happen to be Libertarian/Anarcho-capitalists.
Totalitarianism: Against
Capitalism: Depends on the definition.
Communism: Depends on the definition.
Socialism: Depends on the definition.
Fascism: Against
Monarchy: For
Abortion: Personal Choice, but certain townships may choose whether it's legal or not.
Alcohol: PARTY HARD! But we do have some religious fundamentalists that outlaw it in their township.
Drugs: Depends on the drug, and or township in question. Federal level has no law against it.
Homosexuality: Personal Choice
Death Penalty: Shooting Squad for the most deadly crimes.
Militaries: Militias, private militaries.
Gun Control: Depends on the township, but on a federal level we have none.
Religion: None, the leader is a profound Atheist.
Slavery: Only to pay off debt, but owners have to follow certain humane guidelines.
Expansionism: Homesteading is major part of our expansion, people choose to be within our boundaries.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Sympathizes
Racial Superiority: Everyone is equal to rise and fall at their own merit.
The Environment: The earth can take care of itself, people will have to choose whether or not they want to pick up after themselves. but it's not mandatory.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights:Do unto others as you wish done unto you.
Universal Human Rights: Everyone is equal
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: Unless you are about to slit someones thoat, you are free to do what you want.
Universal Individual Freedom: Everyone is free.
SCIENCE!: Fundamental basis of our society.
Education: Fundamental basis of our society.
Industry: Fundamental basis of our society.
by The First Awesocracy » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:02 pm
by The Steel Fraternity » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:07 pm
Korintar wrote:*QuotePyramidSnip*
Mr. Lee,
It has come to our attention that you have done nothing but denigrate and insult the nations of the world. We would like to know exactly what your stance is on these things. Are you trying to make every nation in this world and beyond your enemy?
We are not tree-huggers, as you claim- it is common sense that leads us to support policies that cause minimal harm to the environment as it is in the best interests of society at large. It is short term thinking that makes severe environmental degradation seem like a bright idea. Continue on this path and that shall be your demise.
Infanticidal? We make every effort to prevent abortion through comprehensive sex education in our country and giving incentives to those who choose to keep the baby and try to make the adoption process run as smoothly as possible, for we recognize it is and unfortunate choice for one to make.
Hippies? Ha, you make me laugh. Hippies are pacifists. They abhor warfare to the utmost degree. Would hippies field several million soldiers? Would they support a navy of a couple hundred ships? They would not. We practice realpolitik and realize that it is sometimes necessary to go to war. We do fight back when threatened and refuse to stand down from any challenge.
Communist? Not in the traditional sense! We believe in workplace democracy, first and foremost. We do recognize that, in some industries, market mechanisms are desirable or are the most efficient and logical method (certain artisanal industries, entertainment, retail, and medical services to an extent).
I am looking forward to your response, Mr. Lee.
Sincerely,
Zakir Myosin Sezadu III, Director Emeritus
by The Steel Fraternity » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:13 pm
The First Awesocracy wrote:Full Nation Name: The Principality of the First Awesocracy
Name: the AwesocracyStance On:
Republicanism: It's okay.
Anarchy: Awesome and fun to an extend.
Totalitarianism: Cruel but efficent.
Capitalism: It's okay.
Communism: Fuck it.
Socialism: It's okay.
Fascism: Occasionally useful for nations but not favorable to us.
Monarchy: Awesome if done right.
Abortion: No comment.
Alcohol: Great for parties.
Drugs: Good for parties too but bad for your health.
Homosexuality: Fine with it.
Death Penalty: Useful for dealing with the worst criminals.
Militaries: Always a good thing.
Gun Control: Everyone should carry a gun, except children.
Religion: Believe whatever you want, but you gotta respect the High Priest.
Slavery: Okay as long as the slaves agree to it.
Expansionism: Usually a good thing, unless it's an oppressive totalitarian military nation doing it.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Who?
Racial Superiority: There's two things I hate in this world; racists people and the Dutch.
The Environment: A nice thing to have around.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: Citizens deserve many rights but the government should be allowed to temporarily take them away when necessary.
Universal Human Rights: Everyone deserves equal rights. Except the Dutch.
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: People can do whatever they want as long as they aren't breaking any laws.
Universal Individual Freedom: Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!
SCIENCE!: Is awesome.
Education: Boring but necessary.
Industry: Boring but helps create awesomeness.
by Verangii » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:17 pm
by The Steel Fraternity » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:20 pm
Verangii wrote:Full Nation Name:The Migratory Fleet of the Verangii People
Name:VerangiiStance On:
Republicanism:just
Anarchy:lawless
Totalitarianism:only when necessary
Capitalism:yayy!
Communism:booo!
Socialism:meh.
Fascism:meh.
Monarchy:ok if its constitutional
Abortion:outlawed
Alcohol:22& up
Drugs:illegal
Homosexuality:illegal
Death Penalty:encouraged
Militaries:necessary for sovereignty
Gun Control:NO!
Religion:freedom of religon.
Slavery:illegal
Expansionism:meh
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: dont know enough about it
Racial Superiority:no
The Environment:a load of crap
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights:ffod, shelter, clothing, and liberty
Universal Human Rights:not really human rights
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms:life liberty and the pursuit of happiness
Universal Individual Freedom:?
SCIENCE!:important as long as it is not Atheistic
Education:important
Industry:necessary
by Jbeil » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:30 pm
by Violan » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:16 pm
by Songnam » Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:57 pm
The Steel Fraternity wrote:
A mostly decent-seeming nation, aside from troubling sympathies for Communism. Otherwise they appear decently democratic and Capitalist. However, the fact that their government apparently reserves the right to outlaw any religions they don't like leaves us rather leery towards the idea of opening relations with them.
--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corp and Elder of the Steel Fraternity
OOC: Did you seriously just call the United States Republican Party "ultraconservative"? Dude, I want some of what you're smoking.
by Cathalysto » Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:41 am
The Steel Fraternity wrote:Cathalysto wrote:Full Nation Name: The Total Neocentrist Empire of Cathalysto
Name: CathalystoStance On:
Republicanism: Not bad, but too fragile.. easy to destroy.
Anarchy: Good ideology, bad application.
Totalitarianism: So bad. People will get angry easily, you need a cross between a free and a dictatorial system.
Capitalism: Best system by now. It has to be controlled carefully, it's fragile. Anyways the neoliberalism sucks a lot.
Communism: The basic idea it's good but the application is a piece of shit. It's so unreal.. the only good thing is that promotes the atheism.
Socialism: Not bad. A combination of a capitalist and a socialist societies will be perfect.
Fascism: The extremes touch themselves. Bad, bad, bad... and also promotes the religion!!
Monarchy: Piece of shit.
Abortion: Good and bad. The controlled and careful abortion of a 1-3 months fetus is accepted, but the massive abortion and the brutish operations (like the abortion of a 6-7 months fetus) is not tolerate.
Alcohol: Same as abortion. Controlled and careful drink is not bad, a night of drinking is not bad. But drink and after: drive, is penalized with some jail months.
Drugs: Must be destroyed.. ALL!
Homosexuality: I don't consider it a problem. It's just another fact in the human (and animal) beings (gay/lesbian people are normal people).
Death Penalty: It's sad to say, but there are some people that are IMPOSSIBLE to rehabilitate. People who have killed about dozens of citizens and are the darkest terrorists in the society and they don't appreciate the life. Only that type of criminals must be killed!
Militaries: When a m*therfucker comes to invade your nation, that incredible men sacrifice their life for any meter of any cities. OF COURSE, are necessary.
Gun Control: ANY person that haven't served the military for about 5 years CAN'T have guns (except the police). Have one illegal gun is penalized with one jail year.
Religion: One of the WORST things of the humanity, it has stopped the human technology and advance for hundreds of years. Must be purged, destroyed, burned and buried. The religion is a cancer.
Slavery: Have to be abolished.
Expansionism: Only if you have too many citizens (about millions) in a small area and you need more territories.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: I'll give my opinion when I have more information.
Racial Superiority: Have to be penalized. The racism is another cancer o the humanity.
The Environment: VERY IMPORTANT! We owe everything to nature Pollute is completely illegal.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights, Universal Human Rights, What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms & Universal Individual Freedom: The empire have got a particularly concept of them. You have to give some freedom to your citizens but not an excessive freedom so then citizens will take advantage about it and probably rebel. Inside the freedom that you give them, they can do whatever they want about their lives (except be religious and confront violently to the government and the emperor). It isn't a dictatorship, so people can be gay/lesbian without any problem, they can travel where they want of the planet without any permission and do more things with total freedom.
SCIENCE!: As the environment, is very important and it's the cause of the humanity advance
Education: Important, so children have to grow up with good moral ideas, with respect to the neighbor and without any god existing idea. Religious schools are completely illegal.
Industry: Good , productive and clean Pollute and slavery are banned with some jail years.
A horrifically oppressive regime of godless nature-worshippers. These disgusting savages must be destroyed.
--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corp and Elder of the Steel Fraternity
by Kaledoria » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:27 am
by Sungai Pusat » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:07 am
The Steel Fraternity wrote:Sungai Pusat wrote:Oh no, not another one of you who truly think no leader or authority means chaos. Scew you, I'm going back.
-Some nosy citizen
You don't even have public law enforcement, according to your Factbook. The only piece of legislation your government ever managed to pass wasn't even really a law, but a general statement of rights.
You are, quite literally, a lawless nation.
--Brother Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corp and Elder of the Steel Fraternity
by Wolny Kraj » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:20 am
by Genomita » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:31 am
by Capisaria » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:39 am
by The Steel Fraternity » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:26 am
Songnam wrote:*QuotePyramidSnip*
To Mr. Lee,
I think you are mistaken, we only outlaw those religions that cause destruction of the person or the property. Also, do you know anything about communism?
Kim Ki-Yong, Head of the People's Foreign Affairs Office
EDIT:OOC: You want to know when'll smoking? I'm smoking Leftist Libertarianism with a side of pissed of at the overall blind party loyalty. And I only meant Sarah Palin and all those other people who don't believe in separating church and state
Cathalysto wrote:*snip*
I'm sorry Zachary but we can't obey a carpenter dressed with a robe... it doesn't exists
The day when Mr. God presents to us we will believe in him, by now it's only a human imagination. Meanwhile we will continue keeping safe the nature... a great thing that exists.. and provides us of knowledge and oxygen Also it's more beautiful than God massacres
And well, as I said we are atheists... we don't "believe" in the nature as a spiritual entity. We just protect it from the destructive human instinct.
Our empire only it's oppressive with traitors and terrorists...
Have a nice day.
Sungai Pusat wrote: *Snip*
You didn't see the factbook properly, didn't you? We have mentioned that no authority exists in the nation, but we did not say we have no form of rule whatsoever. Plz do not confuse the term anarchy.
-Same guy
Wolny Kraj wrote:How are we oppressive or antidemocratic? We have a house of representatives with at leat ten parties, but the people have elected the communists because they are extremely well educated. We do not oppress our people, and I challenge you to find an example of "oppression"
-People's Leader Szczepan Łwówski of Wolny Kraj
Genomita wrote:Perhaps Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corp and Elder of the Steel Fraternity would be so kind as to provide us with a summary of the Steel Fraternity's opinions on the different topics listed at the beginning of this topic. I'm sure it would be a great help to future participants.
by Songnam » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:21 am
The Steel Fraternity wrote:Songnam wrote:*QuotePyramidSnip*
To Mr. Lee,
I think you are mistaken, we only outlaw those religions that cause destruction of the person or the property. Also, do you know anything about communism?
Kim Ki-Yong, Head of the People's Foreign Affairs Office
EDIT:OOC: You want to know when'll smoking? I'm smoking Leftist Libertarianism with a side of pissed of at the overall blind party loyalty. And I only meant Sarah Palin and all those other people who don't believe in separating church and state
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