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OOC: This is my first thread, so please be merciful. Also, how do I make a poll?

IC:

While the Communist Party is the only legal political party, it's philosophy is not universally popular amongst the country's citizens. Various informal societies, unoficial parties, and factions within the Party each compete for the loyalty of the Sebastianalandian citizenry. The latest opinion estimates gathered by the Police are as follows:

Socialist Revolutionaries (Left-Wing Radical) - 12%
Communist Party (Leninist) - 45%
Hardliners (Stalinist) - 6%
Sebastianalandian National Party (National Socialist) - 1%
Traditionalist Phalanx (Fascist) - 4%
Control Clique (Paternal Autocrat) - 9%
Sebastianalandia First Party (Social Conservative) - 2%
People's Party (Market Liberal) - 1%
Progressive Party (Social Liberal) - 5%
Democratic Socialists (Social Democrat) - 15%


Now, we wish to see the opinions of the international community of the various factions within the United Socialist States. A brief summary of the parties is as follows:

Socialist Revolutionaries (Left-Wing Radical) - A collection of non-Communist Socialists, Mensheviks, and more moderate elements within the Communist Party that in-general supports the Party line but believes it should take a more moderate stance on various issues.

Communist Party (Leninist) - The ruling party in this system, with a monopoly of political power. Adheres to Marxism-Leninism as its ideology, and rules in accordance to the Leninist model of the dictatorship of the vanguard party. Founded as an off-shoot of earlier Socialist revolutionary movements in the monarchist era, spearheaded the revolt that overthrew the Kings and seized power afterwards.

Hardliners (Stalinist) - A platform within the Communist Party that, while similarly adhering to Marxism-Leninism, believes a proper implimentation of Marxist-Leninist ideals requires a more hardline aproach. Their main theoretical differences from the mainstream Party is their belief that the class strugle should increase in intensity over time, their belief that the State should continue to exist even once Communism has been achieved, and in their conservative attitudes towards education, family relationships, etc.

Sebastianalandian National Party (National Socialist) - An association of intensely sentimentalist National Socialists who take Sebastianalandian nationalism to the point of considering the Sebastianalandian 'race' to be superior to all others. Worships all things Sebastianalandian.

Traditionalist Phalanx (Fascist) - The direct successor to the old Protect the King Society, this organization is dedicated to upholding the traditional authoritarian values that were the official policy under the Old Regime. At its core are a dedicated group of nostalgic monarchists, but their numbers are augmented by hardcore conservatives who believe in traditional authoritarian family values.

Control Clique (Paternal Autocrat) - The association of pragmaticists. Not so much a political party as a loose society of nonpolitical officials (especially in the armed forces) who are dedicated to maintaining order within the country. Utterly practical and Machiavellian, these slightly right-wing authoritarians consider it their duty to ensure the stability of whatever regime happens to be in charge at the moment. Many of the highest-ranking military offials are part of this group (including the Commissar of War and the Commander-in-Chief of the Admiralty, though the latter is rumoured to be a part of the Traditionalist Phalanx).

Sebastianalandia First Party (Social Conservative) - A watered-down version of the Sebastianalansdian National Party. Heavily in favour of an isolationist foreign policy, dislikes the Communist Party's handling of social issues, and has a somewhat firm commitment to democratic politics.

People's Party (Market Liberal) - An extremely misnamed gentleman's club founded by decendants of Grittonian immigrants. Is the epitomization of the capitalist ideas the Communist Party has set itself to destroy, and is disliked outside of Grittonian business circles. The Communist Party tolerates it as a sop to the aforementioned Grittonian businessmen who conduct much of Sebastianalandia's commerce.

Progressive Party (Social Liberal) - Beginning its life as a trade union that came out in suport of a gay rights demonstration in the monarchist era, this organization is dedicated to lobbying the Communist Party to support progressive social policies in education, law, equaility, etc. - with much success.

Democratic Socialists (Social Democrat) - This movement also began lifge as a trade union. At first branded as 'betrayers of the working class' by the more radical Socialist groups, the Democratic Socialists regained their standing when they mobilized significant working-class support in favour of the Communist-led Revolution.


So, international community, what d'you think?

NOTE: This chart could be a bit misleading. To find the actual support for the Communist Party, add togather the percentages of the Socialist Revolutionaries, the Communist Party, the Harliners, the Progressive Party, and the Democratic Socialists.

The added-together figures for the Sebastianalandian National Party, the Sebastianalandia First Party, the People's Party, and the Traditionalist Phalanx equals the percentage ofd those opposed to the Communist Party.

The supporters of the Control Clique are apolitical, and support the Government out of duty.

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we support our fellow National Socialists

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OOC: Edit post>Poll Creation (next to Options).

All Sagatagan opinion rendered in the words of one our nation's many fiery, militant political columnists:

Socialist Revolutionaries (Left-Wing Radical) - A collection of non-Communist Socialists, Mensheviks, and more moderate elements within the Communist Party that in-general supports the Party line but believes it should take a more moderate stance on various issues.

Sagatagan: Weak lapdogs to Bolshevism. They do well in questioning the Leninist line of thought, but not well enough, and their deviance is not from devotion to freedom, but from unwillingness to spur into action. They are disappointing.

Communist Party (Leninist) - The ruling party in this system, with a monopoly of political power. Adheres to Marxism-Leninism as its ideology, and rules in accordance to the Leninist model of the dictatorship of the vanguard party. Founded as an off-shoot of earlier Socialist revolutionary movements in the monarchist era, spearheaded the revolt that overthrew the Kings and seized power afterwards.

Sagatagan: Traitors to the ideas of revolution in every sense. How can you have a vanguard party? This is not socialism, but state capitalism, and these bureaucrats are the new bourgeoise! Power to the soviets- these Leninist dogs ought to be beheaded!

Hardliners (Stalinist) - A platform within the Communist Party that, while similarly adhering to Marxism-Leninism, believes a proper implimentation of Marxist-Leninist ideals requires a more hardline aproach. Their main theoretical differences from the mainstream Party is their belief that the class strugle should increase in intensity over time, their belief that the State should continue to exist even once Communism has been achieved, and in their conservative attitudes towards education, family relationships, etc.

Sagatagan: I have nothing positive to say about these. They are worse than the Leninists. Filth.

Sebastianalandian National Party (National Socialist) - An association of intensely sentimentalist National Socialists who take Sebastianalandian nationalism to the point of considering the Sebastianalandian 'race' to be superior to all others. Worships all things Sebastianalandian.

Sagatagan: Fascists, or close enough. Ought to be killed. Drive these reactionary bastard troglodytes back to the holes they crawled out of, and fill the holes with napalm.

Traditionalist Phalanx (Fascist) - The direct successor to the old Protect the King Society, this organization is dedicated to upholding the traditional authoritarian values that were the official policy under the Old Regime. At its core are a dedicated group of nostalgic monarchists, but their numbers are augmented by hardcore conservatives who believe in traditional authoritarian family values.

Sagatagan- Actual fascists! Kill them! Kill them with fire!

Control Clique (Paternal Autocrat) - The association of pragmaticists. Not so much a political party as a loose society of nonpolitical officials (especially in the armed forces) who are dedicated to maintaining order within the country. Utterly practical and Machiavellian, these slightly right-wing authoritarians consider it their duty to ensure the stability of whatever regime happens to be in charge at the moment. Many of the highest-ranking military offials are part of this group (including the Commissar of War and the Commander-in-Chief of the Admiralty, though the latter is rumoured to be a part of the Traditionalist Phalanx).

Sagatagan- Why don't they just join the fascists and Nazis and get it over with? Besides, we've save fuel if we could burn them all at once.

Sebastianalandia First Party (Social Conservative) - A watered-down version of the Sebastianalansdian National Party. Heavily in favour of an isolationist foreign policy, dislikes the Communist Party's handling of social issues, and has a somewhat firm commitment to democratic politics.

Sagatagan- Tolerable, in the same way dermatitis or a bad headache are. At least they want to keep out of other nation's affairs. That's good. Keep the rightist idiocy with the people who vote for it.

People's Party (Market Liberal) - An extremely misnamed gentleman's club founded by decendants of Grittonian immigrants. Is the epitomization of the capitalist ideas the Communist Party has set itself to destroy, and is disliked outside of Grittonian business circles. The Communist Party tolerates it as a sop to the aforementioned Grittonian businessmen who conduct much of Sebastianalandia's commerce.

Sagatagan- Markets are alright, and the communists could learn something from these, but their support of the bourgeois is unacceptable.

Progressive Party (Social Liberal) - Beginning its life as a trade union that came out in suport of a gay rights demonstration in the monarchist era, this organization is dedicated to lobbying the Communist Party to support progressive social policies in education, law, equaility, etc. - with much success.

Sagatagan: Good people. If you must have Leninists in power, at least have these chaps in place to keep them somewhat honest.

Democratic Socialists (Social Democrat) - This movement also began lifge as a trade union. At first branded as 'betrayers of the working class' by the more radical Socialist groups, the Democratic Socialists regained their standing when they mobilized significant working-class support in favour of the Communist-led Revolution.

Sagatagan: Another good group. These and the progressives ought to get together to ensure more Soviet power, and less Party power. If they did, we could be great friends of Sebastianaland.

we support you, but you do need more cowbell......

Thurask wrote:OOC: Edit post>Poll Creation (next to Options).

OOC: Thanks!

Sebastianalandia wrote:OOC: This is my first thread, so please be merciful. Also, how do I make a poll?

IC:

While the Communist Party is the only legal political party, it's philosophy is not universally popular amongst the country's citizens. Various informal societies, unoficial parties, and factions within the Party each compete for the loyalty of the Sebastianalandian citizenry. The latest opinion estimates gathered by the Police are as follows:

Socialist Revolutionaries (Left-Wing Radical) - 12%
Communist Party (Leninist) - 45%
Hardliners (Stalinist) - 6%
Sebastianalandian National Party (National Socialist) - 1%
Traditionalist Phalanx (Fascist) - 4%
Control Clique (Paternal Autocrat) - 9%
Sebastianalandia First Party (Social Conservative) - 2%
People's Party (Market Liberal) - 1%
Progressive Party (Social Liberal) - 5%
Democratic Socialists (Social Democrat) - 15%


Now, we wish to see the opinions of the international community of the various factions within the United Socialist States. A brief summary of the parties is as follows:

Socialist Revolutionaries (Left-Wing Radical) - A collection of non-Communist Socialists, Mensheviks, and more moderate elements within the Communist Party that in-general supports the Party line but believes it should take a more moderate stance on various issues.

Communist Party (Leninist) - The ruling party in this system, with a monopoly of political power. Adheres to Marxism-Leninism as its ideology, and rules in accordance to the Leninist model of the dictatorship of the vanguard party. Founded as an off-shoot of earlier Socialist revolutionary movements in the monarchist era, spearheaded the revolt that overthrew the Kings and seized power afterwards.

Hardliners (Stalinist) - A platform within the Communist Party that, while similarly adhering to Marxism-Leninism, believes a proper implimentation of Marxist-Leninist ideals requires a more hardline aproach. Their main theoretical differences from the mainstream Party is their belief that the class strugle should increase in intensity over time, their belief that the State should continue to exist even once Communism has been achieved, and in their conservative attitudes towards education, family relationships, etc.

Sebastianalandian National Party (National Socialist) - An association of intensely sentimentalist National Socialists who take Sebastianalandian nationalism to the point of considering the Sebastianalandian 'race' to be superior to all others. Worships all things Sebastianalandian.

Traditionalist Phalanx (Fascist) - The direct successor to the old Protect the King Society, this organization is dedicated to upholding the traditional authoritarian values that were the official policy under the Old Regime. At its core are a dedicated group of nostalgic monarchists, but their numbers are augmented by hardcore conservatives who believe in traditional authoritarian family values.

Control Clique (Paternal Autocrat) - The association of pragmaticists. Not so much a political party as a loose society of nonpolitical officials (especially in the armed forces) who are dedicated to maintaining order within the country. Utterly practical and Machiavellian, these slightly right-wing authoritarians consider it their duty to ensure the stability of whatever regime happens to be in charge at the moment. Many of the highest-ranking military offials are part of this group (including the Commissar of War and the Commander-in-Chief of the Admiralty, though the latter is rumoured to be a part of the Traditionalist Phalanx).

Sebastianalandia First Party (Social Conservative) - A watered-down version of the Sebastianalansdian National Party. Heavily in favour of an isolationist foreign policy, dislikes the Communist Party's handling of social issues, and has a somewhat firm commitment to democratic politics.

People's Party (Market Liberal) - An extremely misnamed gentleman's club founded by decendants of Grittonian immigrants. Is the epitomization of the capitalist ideas the Communist Party has set itself to destroy, and is disliked outside of Grittonian business circles. The Communist Party tolerates it as a sop to the aforementioned Grittonian businessmen who conduct much of Sebastianalandia's commerce.

Progressive Party (Social Liberal) - Beginning its life as a trade union that came out in suport of a gay rights demonstration in the monarchist era, this organization is dedicated to lobbying the Communist Party to support progressive social policies in education, law, equaility, etc. - with much success.

Democratic Socialists (Social Democrat) - This movement also began lifge as a trade union. At first branded as 'betrayers of the working class' by the more radical Socialist groups, the Democratic Socialists regained their standing when they mobilized significant working-class support in favour of the Communist-led Revolution.


So, international community, what d'you think?

Communists... well I suppose it could be worse, you could be fascists.
We are neutral towards your government.

LOL you stole the government types from Hearts of Iron.

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:LOL you stole the government types from Hearts of Iron.

Shh!!

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Shit hole. My friend went there and said it was rubbish.

As you can well understand, we cannot just say that the Adrian nation supports this or that party, we are not a homogeneous entity and thus I nor my colllegues can speak with entire certainty which party would be preferred, so rather then make that folly, we decided to make a jolly game of it, today at the opening of the Public Forums across the Empire we decided to run a mock election for your nation as if our citizenry had had been voting. The results are in, let's see how they voted

Socialist Revolutionaries - Negligible (Unsurprising, considering left wing parties receive less then 20% of traditional vote, and we are highly right wing so are left wing is probably still in your far right)
Communist Party: - Negligible (Ditto above)
Hardliners: - Literal 0% (Stalin is not popular around these parts, we should have said zero, they got one vote, we assume the voter was joking or otherwise mentally deranged)
Sebastianalandian National Party: - Negligible (Racism just naturally repels Adrians.)
Traditionalist Phalanx - 1% (Mostly received votes from monarchists, and people who thought that Phalanx would be a good party name)
Control Clique - 1% (Most of the Hard Line Militarist Voted for CC)
Sebastianalandia First Party - 1% (We assume people were thinking of themselves as Sebastianlandian)
People's Party - 75% (Not Surprising, considering this only a few more points then the Libertarian and Minarchist Parties of Adria receive in Adria)
Progressive Party - 2% (It has about the entirety of the Imperial Socialist Party behind it, and a few social leaning Libertarians)
Democratic Socialists - 6% (Surprising, that is 7% less the Dem-Soc party of Adria)
Pedro [Write-In]: 14% (We imagine the majority who voted Pedro didn't want to vote Market Liberal but didn't want to vote for another party which they viewed much worse then this fellow Pedro, also a good deal just thought they'd roll with the joke)

We expect that you won't be asking us to vote for you in earnest anytime soon...
These results aren't surprising to say the least, though that this "Pedro" fellow beat out even your more moderate parties is somewhat surprising. Adria is Free Market, Through and Through.

The Emperor notes that he too would have voted for the People's Party, but the High Chancellor has indicated support for Pedro (and some think he is the one who wrote it it).

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As for an assessment of your nation, we are sad to see such restrictive policies on economic freedom, it will prevent or at least prove an obstacle to future trade cooperation, luckily we have gotten word that our brave merchants have already started an underground market into your nation for consumers goods, how lucky for you, we sincerely hope you enjoy them!

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We of the Republic refuse to endorse ANY party! Why? Simple, because none of the respective parties reflect our political leanings, the closest would be the Sebastianalandia First Party and the People's Party, though neither truly reflects our opinions. Thus, we don't care which party is elected, since there are an awful lot of Leftist Parties here, more so then Right-wing Parties.

Kalakda wrote:We of the Republic refuse to endorse ANY party! Why? Simple, because none of the respective parties reflect our political leanings, the closest would be the Sebastianalandia First Party and the People's Party, though neither truly reflects our opinions. Thus, we don't care which party is elected, since there are an awful lot of Leftist Parties here, more so then Right-wing Parties.

There aren't actually any elections going on. Only the Communist Party is an actual political party; the others are lobbying groups, associations, and other such organizations.

C'mon! Bump this!

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Due to Albion Rhodesia’s official policy of opposing communism and communist expansion, the Government of Albion Rhodesia, officially sends our greetings and support to the Sebastianalandia First Party.

-Office of Foreign Affairs

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