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Should I become a 2 party state?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:32 pm
by Kostrotyevsk
So currently I have like 20 parties in my parliament. I hope to see if I should lower this to like 2 like in America or something. I wanna see recommendations and stuff, also currently I have 100 people in my upper house (The Senate) and 650 in the lower house (House of Representatives). I wonder if I should raise or lower these numbers. Anyways, poll for # of political parties are below. I would like to hear what names you would provide for the party names.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:36 pm
by Cuba 2022 RP
Dont switch to 2 party state, that’s one of the biggest flaws of america, if you have more than 2, youre probably doing better than them

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:38 pm
by Kostrotyevsk
Cuba 2022 RP wrote:Dont switch to 2 party state, that’s one of the biggest flaws of america, if you have more than 2, youre probably doing better than them

I wanna hear your ideas on this and the number of seats in my government and stuff. And how many parties.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:59 pm
by Guild Commonwealth
I voted 4 to 5 but after looking over the size of your parliament again, I think having at least 6 or 7 would be good.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:20 pm
by Kostrotyevsk
Guild Commonwealth wrote:I voted 4 to 5 but after looking over the size of your parliament again, I think having at least 6 or 7 would be good.

What i mean is 2 parties will be the largest then 3-4 other smaller ones. Also kk

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:51 pm
by Veraguas
4-5 sounds like a good practical number. More than 10 is just excessive.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:28 am
by Republica Federal de Catalunya
Having more than 2 gives more flexibility. In my country there at least 20 political parties, but, in the last 75 years only 5 have been leading a government coalition or ruling in solitary.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:33 am
by New Stonen
A group of 4-6 parties can result in a very diverse and unique political system in your nation. A 2-3 system can be boring, where it's simply an "apples or oranges" scenario. New Stonen has 3 parties that are regularly elected, along with 4 parties that, very rarely, can gain control of large parts of the nation. This makes politics more interesting and refreshing every once in a while.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:34 am
by Republica Federal de Catalunya
Kostrotyevsk wrote:
Guild Commonwealth wrote:I voted 4 to 5 but after looking over the size of your parliament again, I think having at least 6 or 7 would be good.

What i mean is 2 parties will be the largest then 3-4 other smaller ones. Also kk


Most multiparty systems are similar, there 2-3 main parties and some minor parties. that make coalitions common.

In my case liberalemocrats are the main party, but minor Christian Democrats, greens and Social-liberals are the government coalition parties. giving the coalition in total 96/186 seats.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:36 am
by Novaya Equestria
A multi-party system is preferable to a two-party system, which is bad because it actually prevents other multiple parties from being involved; the only way said multiple parties can circumvent this is if they revise their views in order to be a part of either one of two majority parties.

That being said, I don't mind several big tent groups and coalition parties.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:25 am
by Bagong Luzon
New Luzon does not have political parties as they are conventionally understood, the closest analog in the Royal Assembly being the various factions the Counts affiliate themselves with out of mutual self-interest. That being said, if your parliament is too large for a two-party system to be viable, then you need to scale up the number of parties; 4-6 sounds reasonable enough for most of us in this thread, but a seventh might not hurt too much.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:43 am
by Thermodolia
Veraguas wrote:4-5 sounds like a good practical number. More than 10 is just excessive.


More than 10 adds political flavor. Everyone has 4-7 political parties, not many have 16+

For example in Thermodolia there are 21 parties in the Federal Parliament grouped into 5 coalitions

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:54 pm
by Republica Federal de Catalunya
Thermodolia wrote:
Veraguas wrote:4-5 sounds like a good practical number. More than 10 is just excessive.


More than 10 adds political flavor. Everyone has 4-7 political parties, not many have 16+

For example in Thermodolia there are 21 parties in the Federal Parliament grouped into 5 coalitions


If got 10 in the parliament now ranging from alt-left to alt-right and a Government coalition of 4 centrist parties and sometimes is difficult to pass new legislation.

More local parties and Ethnic minorities nationalist parties.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:54 pm
by Galanica
I choose 15+ for the poll, just because I thought it would be funny.

To give a serious answer, I think 3-4 parties is ideal. It's more than a 2 party system (which is pretty flawed), but it isn't an excessive number like 6 or 7.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:27 am
by Kostrotyevsk
Galanica wrote:I choose 15+ for the poll, just because I thought it would be funny.

To give a serious answer, I think 3-4 parties is ideal. It's more than a 2 party system (which is pretty flawed), but it isn't an excessive number like 6 or 7.

My friend look at my parliament Facebook, scroll to the House of Representatives lol

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:03 pm
by Kostrotyevsk
What I was thinking is should I have a Canada like parliament with x many seats and x many parties

PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:48 pm
by El Lazaro
As many as makes sense for your nation. A country with a proportional electoral system, religious/ethnic/geographic diversity, stark class divisions, a fractured political history, major powerbrokers outside of the central government (i.e. unusually strong local rulers or religious organizations) which inform political identity is likely to have many political parties. Conversely, homogenous nations with majoritarian political systems and a general lack of many social divides (with those which do exist being lumped into political coalitions) are unlikely to have to multiparty systems regardless if their populations wish they did.

The groups people are part of inform their beliefs and define their interests, and certain electoral systems mathematically favor two-party or multi-party systems, so the number of political parties a country has is largely a question about its society/culture and political system.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:52 pm
by The Republic of Erusea
Become whatever nation you want to be man!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:24 pm
by Krakoyea
I say multi-party would give you more creative freedom and honestly in the real world having two parties can cause issues down the line as the US and UK show.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:53 am
by The Aquaria
A two party system sucks. I would rather call that a Two-Party Dictatorship, since it disallow any kind of diversity and eventually causes monopoly of one single power class. That is nothing different from a one-party state.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:05 am
by Greater Marine
The best amount is between 4 and 8. Enough for a diversity of opinions, but not so many that it becomes impossible to form an effective government.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:38 am
by Minoa
Two-party politics has, in my opinion, a significant risk of increasing political polarisation to insane levels: just look at the state of politics in the United States.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:48 am
by Kostrotyevsk
Love all the comments yall stated. I am becoming a like european thing like France where many parties gather together.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:50 am
by Kostrotyevsk
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:23 am
by Democratic Poopland
I want to just say that you should be a one-party state. I shouldn't.