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[Southeast Marajarbia]

Do you want me to explain how it could have finished early? If accurate maps were provided, players would have been able to equally strike more locations more quickly, and come up with more things to do on the spot. Instead, UAC (on ISA) had to provide non-canon maps. Secondly, the players could have attacked other cities and areas of vital importance instead of attacking Desmos. Just spending 24/7 in the same setting is going to bore a lot of people, especially when there is pretty much nothing left.

1. Again not so. If there had been more locations= more battles= more time
2. No one was bored. We were all trying to do some quality post. Having large forces converge on a small force is great for a good quality post

You sure? I’m pretty sure I saw an instance where a small force defeated a large force, and then somebody asking how and why.

[Romextly]

If you find it boring don't get involved with it. Some people are enjoying the roleplay.

*Were. You forgot the past tense, but forget about it. That RP is pretty much over, or will at least be over soon. Tztatzikistan should (again) create a new RP that doesn’t involve fighting. Maybe peace talks to end the war, or something similar that benefits his lore.

Once again, it is not over yet. We are attacking the capital city. In addition, just because you have all the cities, doesn't mean the fightings over. There are suh things a guerilla warfare

[Romextly]

1. Again not so. If there had been more locations= more battles= more time
2. No one was bored. We were all trying to do some quality post. Having large forces converge on a small force is great for a good quality post

You sure? I’m pretty sure I saw an instance where a small force defeated a large force, and then somebody asking how and why.

You mean when Laka made that amazing post with the Red Baron. Yeah, it was answered by the simple fact that the Red Baron is a freakin boss.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

*Were. You forgot the past tense, but forget about it. That RP is pretty much over, or will at least be over soon. Tztatzikistan should (again) create a new RP that doesn’t involve fighting. Maybe peace talks to end the war, or something similar that benefits his lore.

Once again, it is not over yet. We are attacking the capital city. In addition, just because you have all the cities, doesn't mean the fightings over. There are suh things a guerilla warfare

Well, if I say it’s pretty much over, that is when I mean that the fighting will stop soon. I’m not the OP, so I’m not the one who says what is what. I’m not even in control of any cities. The UDAF just ratified its own Provisional Council to be above the government for a while, but that doesn’t mean that anyone (except the original factions in the Opening Post) are still in control, but losing.

[Romextly]

Once again, it is not over yet. We are attacking the capital city. In addition, just because you have all the cities, doesn't mean the fightings over. There are suh things a guerilla warfare

Well, if I say it’s pretty much over, that is when I mean that the fighting will stop soon. I’m not the OP, so I’m not the one who says what is what. I’m not even in control of any cities. The UDAF just ratified its own Provisional Council to be above the government for a while, but that doesn’t mean that anyone (except the original factions in the Opening Post) are still in control, but losing.

I'm not sure it even has power. I mean none of the R&R peeps agreed to it and pretty much every nation supporting them, even Nova Catania said they don't support it. I think IHS is the only one that supports it

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Once again, it is not over yet. We are attacking the capital city. In addition, just because you have all the cities, doesn't mean the fightings over. There are suh things a guerilla warfare

Well, if I say it’s pretty much over, that is when I mean that the fighting will stop soon. I’m not the OP, so I’m not the one who says what is what. I’m not even in control of any cities. The UDAF just ratified its own Provisional Council to be above the government for a while, but that doesn’t mean that anyone (except the original factions in the Opening Post) are still in control, but losing.

Except for the Royalist-Rebels, of course. While a Provisional Council is above that government, they are still the legitimate government. And I don’t really understand why Tztatzikistan didn’t like the actual constitution that I wrote. It did have pretty much everything that you would see in IRL Britain and IRL OPEC nations, right?

[Romextly]

Well, if I say it’s pretty much over, that is when I mean that the fighting will stop soon. I’m not the OP, so I’m not the one who says what is what. I’m not even in control of any cities. The UDAF just ratified its own Provisional Council to be above the government for a while, but that doesn’t mean that anyone (except the original factions in the Opening Post) are still in control, but losing.

Except for the Royalist-Rebels, of course. While a Provisional Council is above that government, they are still the legitimate government. And I don’t really understand why Tztatzikistan didn’t like the actual constitution that I wrote. It did have pretty much everything that you would see in IRL Britain and IRL OPEC nations, right?

I think they just want their own government to sign their constitution. For example, would you like if you were in a civil war and when someone helps you, they also make a constitution on you to force you to give concessions. Obviously all of us here want something out of it, we're just more subtle on it

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Well, if I say it’s pretty much over, that is when I mean that the fighting will stop soon. I’m not the OP, so I’m not the one who says what is what. I’m not even in control of any cities. The UDAF just ratified its own Provisional Council to be above the government for a while, but that doesn’t mean that anyone (except the original factions in the Opening Post) are still in control, but losing.

I'm not sure it even has power. I mean none of the R&R peeps agreed to it and pretty much every nation supporting them, even Nova Catania said they don't support it. I think IHS is the only one that supports it

Ancapimania supports the idea. Corrington also most likely supports it as well. Either way, if something is above a Government’s power, it is bound to have some form of power.

[Romextly]

I'm not sure it even has power. I mean none of the R&R peeps agreed to it and pretty much every nation supporting them, even Nova Catania said they don't support it. I think IHS is the only one that supports it

Ancapimania supports the idea. Corrington also most likely supports it as well. Either way, if something is above a Government’s power, it is bound to have some form of power.

Not if they agree to it. Also you would have to go through the nations that are (according to thos who support it:4) more numerous and larger military numbers

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Except for the Royalist-Rebels, of course. While a Provisional Council is above that government, they are still the legitimate government. And I don’t really understand why Tztatzikistan didn’t like the actual constitution that I wrote. It did have pretty much everything that you would see in IRL Britain and IRL OPEC nations, right?

I think they just want their own government to sign their constitution. For example, would you like if you were in a civil war and when someone helps you, they also make a constitution on you to force you to give concessions. Obviously all of us here want something out of it, we're just more subtle on it

Well, if it was a good constitution that would benefit my nation a lot, then I would definitely agree. It is obvious to me that whenever fossil fuels are involved, large groups would want a piece of that pie, but what do you want out of it? I mean, you are in control of a big enough nation that you could literally invade Tztatzikistan if you wanted to, but I have a feeling that isn’t what you want out of Tztatzikistan.

[Romextly]

I think they just want their own government to sign their constitution. For example, would you like if you were in a civil war and when someone helps you, they also make a constitution on you to force you to give concessions. Obviously all of us here want something out of it, we're just more subtle on it

Well, if it was a good constitution that would benefit my nation a lot, then I would definitely agree. It is obvious to me that whenever fossil fuels are involved, large groups would want a piece of that pie, but what do you want out of it? I mean, you are in control of a big enough nation that you could literally invade Tztatzikistan if you wanted to, but I have a feeling that isn’t what you want out of Tztatzikistan.

Well sir, I'm trying to play in a risky position called big brother. I'm trying to enter it into my sphere of influence, however with subtlety. Then my companies will have less of a tax. Not forcing them, but through natural capitalism.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Well, if it was a good constitution that would benefit my nation a lot, then I would definitely agree. It is obvious to me that whenever fossil fuels are involved, large groups would want a piece of that pie, but what do you want out of it? I mean, you are in control of a big enough nation that you could literally invade Tztatzikistan if you wanted to, but I have a feeling that isn’t what you want out of Tztatzikistan.

Well sir, I'm trying to play in a risky position called big brother. I'm trying to enter it into my sphere of influence, however with subtlety. Then my companies will have less of a tax. Not forcing them, but through natural capitalism.

While it isn’t really subtle now, that actually might work. But wouldn’t capitalism work better if imperialism was a part of it. Technically, everybody needs resources, and everyone hates taxes, but people have to contribute one way or another. Also technically speaking (while not attempting or intending to be a smart-ass about it) the old saying of “money doesn’t grow on trees” is false if you know where paper comes from.

[Romextly]

Well sir, I'm trying to play in a risky position called big brother. I'm trying to enter it into my sphere of influence, however with subtlety. Then my companies will have less of a tax. Not forcing them, but through natural capitalism.

While it isn’t really subtle now, that actually might work. But wouldn’t capitalism work better if imperialism was a part of it. Technically, everybody needs resources, and everyone hates taxes, but people have to contribute one way or another. Also technically speaking (while not attempting or intending to be a smart-ass about it) the old saying of “money doesn’t grow on trees” is false if you know where paper comes from.

Very true.

[NationStates Puppet]

Please don't turn this into a chat thread again.
IC: The IHS has officially decided to let the Tzatzistanis do whatever they want. We'll leave them alone.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Please don't turn this into a chat thread again.
IC: The IHS has officially decided to let the Tzatzistanis do whatever they want. We'll leave them alone.

OOC: Ok, even though it is the sign-up thread. Let us just leave that war or find another one.

[NationStates Puppet]

Please don't turn this into a chat thread again.
IC: The IHS has officially decided to let the Tzatzistanis do whatever they want. We'll leave them alone.

OOC: Ok, even though it is the sign-up thread. Let us just leave that war or find another one.

OOC: It's a bit tiring when you besiege a city and the people in the RP act as if the siege doesn't exist.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

OOC: Ok, even though it is the sign-up thread. Let us just leave that war or find another one.

OOC: It's a bit tiring when you besiege a city and the people in the RP act as if the siege doesn't exist.

OOC: Are you talking about that raid in Desmos or something?

[NationStates Puppet]

OOC: It's a bit tiring when you besiege a city and the people in the RP act as if the siege doesn't exist.

OOC: Are you talking about that raid in Desmos or something?

OOC: Byzantipole.

[Dowaesk]

Full Nation Name: The Epochist Democratic Republic of Dowaesk
Leader Name: Ahmed Khoussary ibn Al-Qarnayn
Name of Representative: Walid ibn Dhul Kifl
Type of Government: Epochist Democratic
How big is your population: 109 million
How big is your army?: 1 million in service. More, if the situation calls for it
Do you wish to establish diplomatic relations with a member? If so, who?: Islamic Holy Sites
Are you prepared to deal with the threat of both Slave Traders and Raiders to NS?: Yes
OOC:
Are you a puppet of anybody?: Nope.

[NationStates Puppet]

Full Nation Name: The Epochist Democratic Republic of Dowaesk
Leader Name: Ahmed Khoussary ibn Al-Qarnayn
Name of Representative: Walid ibn Dhul Kifl
Type of Government: Epochist Democratic
How big is your population: 109 million
How big is your army?: 1 million in service. More, if the situation calls for it
Do you wish to establish diplomatic relations with a member? If so, who?: Islamic Holy Sites
Are you prepared to deal with the threat of both Slave Traders and Raiders to NS?: Yes
OOC:
Are you a puppet of anybody?: Nope.

Accepted

[Gran Bolivariana]

Full Nation Name: The Bolivarian Republic of Gran Bolivariana
Leader Name: President Ramon Carballar
Name of Representative: Gonzalo Céspedes
Type of Government: Semi-Unitary Federal Representative Constitutional Democracy
How big is your population: 1,259,900,0
How big is your army?: ~329k
Do you wish to establish diplomatic relations with a member? If so, who?:
Are you prepared to deal with the threat of both Slave Traders and Raiders to NS?: Yes.
OOC:
Are you a puppet of anybody?: No.

[NationStates Puppet]

Full Nation Name: The Bolivarian Republic of Gran Bolivariana
Leader Name: President Ramon Carballar
Name of Representative: Gonzalo Céspedes
Type of Government: Semi-Unitary Federal Representative Constitutional Democracy
How big is your population: 1,259,900,0
How big is your army?: ~329k
Do you wish to establish diplomatic relations with a member? If so, who?:
Are you prepared to deal with the threat of both Slave Traders and Raiders to NS?: Yes.
OOC:
Are you a puppet of anybody?: No.

I'm afraid not. You need to prove that you aren't a puppet of CUSP or any similar nation/organisation. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

[The American Anarchist Empire]

Yeah, I'm going to leave UDAF due to issues in the Tzatzikistani civil war.

If I'm permitted, can I join back due to these issues being sorted.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Yeah, I'm going to leave UDAF due to issues in the Tzatzikistani civil war.

If I'm permitted, can I join back due to these issues being sorted.

Yes. Welcome back automatically.

[Gran Bolivariana]

Full Nation Name: The Bolivarian Republic of Gran Bolivariana
Leader Name: President Ramon Carballar
Name of Representative: Gonzalo Céspedes
Type of Government: Semi-Unitary Federal Representative Constitutional Democracy
How big is your population: 1,259,900,0
How big is your army?: ~329k
Do you wish to establish diplomatic relations with a member? If so, who?:
Are you prepared to deal with the threat of both Slave Traders and Raiders to NS?: Yes.
OOC:
Are you a puppet of anybody?: No.

I'm afraid not. You need to prove that you aren't a puppet of CUSP or any similar nation/organisation. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

What? I'm not a puppet.