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Postby Puzikas » Tue May 11, 2021 7:59 am

Titanium

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Postby Austrasien » Tue May 11, 2021 10:03 am

European Federation Reunified wrote:What are the natural materials used in laser technology (especially in military technology)?


Depends on the type of laser used.

Gas lasers usually use common atmospheric gasses. Solid-state lasers usually use glass doped with small quantities of certain metals. Neodymium is perhaps the most common in high-power solid state lasers intended to be used inside the atmosphere. With the exception of chemical lasers the raw material needs of lasers are quite limited. The lasing mediums last a long time and only require small quantities of the vital elements. Chemical lasers use Hydrogen Fluoride or Deuterium (heavy hydrogen) Fluoride gas, which is highly reactive but the elements hydrogen and fluorine are trivial to obtain.
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Postby Gallia- » Tue May 11, 2021 10:05 am

I honestly thought he was talking about gallium arsenide lenses for the telescope or something.

Puzikas wrote:Titanium

All glory to the Titanium welders guild


IIRC Galla's titanium welders' guild is an independent state after the nuclear war.

The Army has the largest aluminum and ballistic steel welders' guild tho.
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Tue May 11, 2021 11:50 am

Need help organizing and equipping my suicide-mission “Home Defense”-ish units.

So, basically I need help with equipping suicide units that will be used during a scorched-earth type of defense of a very mountainous island (IRL Equivalent: Hokkaido, Switzerland if it was an island). Now, you might’ve asked me what’s the matter just cosplay IRL jihadists and that’s it- the real difference here is that the invaders will likely shoot to kill at any target, even civilians and children (not like we don’t train and won’t use child soldiers during defense). As such it is very necessary to equip the suicide soldier with the necessary support and equipment to allow him to get to the target. As these units will basically be a cannon fodder (because regular armed forces are the exact opposite of cannon fodder what can possibly go wrong), and as such the equipment should be as cheap and easy-to-make as possible. Pretty much like IRL Volkshturm weapons- cheap and able to help the fighter get at least a couple of enemies with him to the grave.

Before you ask, tactical nukes are not an option because regular army suicide units already use them. Thermobaric rounds are an option though.
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Postby Gallia- » Tue May 11, 2021 12:02 pm

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If they're going to shoot anyone then the optimal solution is to train everyone to actually fight and consider them the opposite of suicide.

The alternative is if this is somehow impossible, you can train everyone to be a Basij suicide bomber and throw them at the enemy in numbers that they literally cannot shoot them all. Put them on motorcycles or something.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Tue May 11, 2021 12:17 pm

Would it be realistic for the British prime minister to continue campaigning if an election was going to be held the following day and at an event where they were in attendance one of their predecessor (Tony Blair) had accidentally been shot in an accident? Thanks.
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Tue May 11, 2021 12:18 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Would it be realistic for the British prime minister to continue campaigning if an election was going to be held the following day and at an event where they were in attendance one of their predecessor (Tony Blair) had accidentally been shot in an accident? Thanks.

What does this have to do with a military? thanks.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue May 11, 2021 12:20 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Would it be realistic for the British prime minister to continue campaigning if an election was going to be held the following day and at an event where they were in attendance one of their predecessor (Tony Blair) had accidentally been shot in an accident? Thanks.

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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Tue May 11, 2021 12:21 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Would it be realistic for the British prime minister to continue campaigning if an election was going to be held the following day and at an event where they were in attendance one of their predecessor (Tony Blair) had accidentally been shot in an accident? Thanks.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=282677

Thanks, I forgot that one existed, I'll ask there.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue May 11, 2021 12:23 pm

Welcome to the NS Military Worldbuilding thread! Which is strictly relegated to worldbuilding your military and not your fifty-ninehundredth harem fantasy. We try to offer critique based on what you define as realistic in your personal canon but remember author fiat cannot always save your skin, especially when it gets ridiculous.

New OP and thread title.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Tue May 11, 2021 12:29 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Welcome to the NS Military Worldbuilding thread! Which is strictly relegated to worldbuilding your military and not your fifty-ninehundredth harem fantasy. We try to offer critique based on what you define as realistic in your personal canon but remember author fiat cannot always save your skin, especially when it gets ridiculous.

New OP and thread title.

Why are you targeting a specific user in the introduction?
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Postby Celritannia » Tue May 11, 2021 1:11 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Would it be realistic for the British prime minister to continue campaigning if an election was going to be held the following day and at an event where they were in attendance one of their predecessor (Tony Blair) had accidentally been shot in an accident? Thanks.


If it is an actual declaration of war, then it probably would be a National Government. See Churchill War Ministry.
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Postby Gallia- » Wed May 12, 2021 3:28 am

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:New OP and thread title.

Why are you targeting a specific user in the introduction?


It's a general statement. There's nothing to indicate it's targeting Allanea or Kraven or any number of other NS RPers specifically.
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Postby Kassaran » Wed May 12, 2021 6:46 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:New OP and thread title.

Why are you targeting a specific user in the introduction?

Generally, issues found in threads lead to follow-on rules being made to help limit the scope of the thread to the topic.

If there is a repeat issue that appears, it would make sense to include in the OP the means to limit that issue and make it apparent to those who would otherwise not.

The scope of the the thread is military worldbuilding, in the purview of each user's nation, not to build the nation of a user nor to answer auto-fill questions about this or that.

If certain users have difficulty with that, they should be encouraged to take a step back and look at the scope of their question.
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Postby Amidia- » Wed May 12, 2021 7:51 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Why are you targeting a specific user in the introduction?


It's a general statement. There's nothing to indicate it's targeting Allanea or Kraven or any number of other NS RPers specifically.

He's specifically targeting you, try as you might to sneak in your Astolfo harem into military realism, even if he is to cute to be a girl.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu May 13, 2021 4:22 am

To get away from the current topik:
Are cluster bombs/dispensers obsolete in 2021?
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Postby Gallia- » Thu May 13, 2021 4:23 am

No.

Amidia- wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
It's a general statement. There's nothing to indicate it's targeting Allanea or Kraven or any number of other NS RPers specifically.

He's specifically targeting you, try as you might to sneak in your Astolfo harem into military realism, even if he is to cute to be a girl.


Accurate but Astolfo isn't asking when he drags you into his harem. 8)

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu May 13, 2021 4:23 am

Gallia- wrote:No.

Even in the age of Brimstonnes and MQ-9's? <.<

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Postby Gallia- » Thu May 13, 2021 4:24 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Gallia- wrote:No.

Even in the age of Brimstonnes and MQ-9's? <.<


They're useful for attacking dispersed soft targets like tents, missile launchers, and canvas covered trucks.

You could use a Brimstone for each individual target but this becomes problematic when a command post might have 30 or 40 targets that are vulnerable to grenades (or fragmentation) and separated enough that only one or two is seriously damaged by each rocket. An F-16 with a handful of WCMDs could eliminate something like that, or you could fly a flight of Tornadoes with a dozen Brimstones each.

Both answers are acceptable, but one is a bit more "wasteful" than the other.
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Postby Veridian Union » Thu May 13, 2021 4:44 pm

Puzikas wrote:Titanium

All glory to the Titanium welders guild


Aluminum > Steel/Titanium crap.
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Postby Austrasien » Thu May 13, 2021 6:31 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Gallia- wrote:No.

Even in the age of Brimstonnes and MQ-9's? <.<


Obsolete is a strong word. Less necessary.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri May 14, 2021 1:10 pm

How would one go about creating a combined arms regiment? What major elements would be necessary (Tanks, artillery, infantry, air support etc).
Is it best to have CAR with differing abilities, say one primarily focused on the infantry, while another focuses on the artillery, etc, within a Division?
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Postby Dayganistan » Fri May 14, 2021 1:47 pm

Celritannia wrote:How would one go about creating a combined arms regiment? What major elements would be necessary (Tanks, artillery, infantry, air support etc).
Is it best to have CAR with differing abilities, say one primarily focused on the infantry, while another focuses on the artillery, etc, within a Division?

A good starting point is to look at US Army Brigade Combat Teams. They are focused on different roles, and some with different roles may have different elements within them. For example infantry and mechanized BCTs don't have tanks, but armoured BCTs have infantry. But IIRC all of them have artillery, engineers and reconnaissance regardless of what their focus is.
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Postby Austrasien » Fri May 14, 2021 6:22 pm

Celritannia wrote:How would one go about creating a combined arms regiment? What major elements would be necessary (Tanks, artillery, infantry, air support etc).
Is it best to have CAR with differing abilities, say one primarily focused on the infantry, while another focuses on the artillery, etc, within a Division?


A combined arms unit usually means a roughly equal mix of armour and infantry subunits. And by roughly equal I mean a ratio smaller than 2:1. Artillery is not normally included in the concept because artillery is accepted as a normal accompaniment of both armour and infantry units.
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