NS Military Worldbuilding Thread No. 12

[The Manticoran Empire]

Are you sure it isn't "Can I recognize a joke?"

I know I can't. I was born without a sense of humor.

[Miku the Based]

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sneek peek

Where have I seen that gun before... ah, yes!

It's more reminiscent of the 2000 millennium oicw program but okay.

[Gallia-]

https://terminallance.com/2014/01/17/terminal-lance-302-pirate-sword/

I made this joke last night wrt the Marine light tank commander I'm doodling.

He may or may not get a pirate sword to cut people with.

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sneek peek

This is excellent but have you considered bayonet

It's a 6.5x35mm bayonet.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

https://terminallance.com/2014/01/17/terminal-lance-302-pirate-sword/

I'm made this joke last night wrt the Marine light tank commander.

This is excellent but have you considered bayonet

It's a 6.5x35mm bayonet.

Wouldn't it be easier to just load and shoot it?

I propose using a cartridge your squad has but the gun cannot use.

So a spent .223 cartridge duct taped to the end of a glock is now a bayonet.

Enemy exploding bullets collected in a similar fashion may be festooned on the end of your rifle for similar affect.
-Everyone laughing till we show up with Energa rifle grenades shoved-on as our CQB bayonets in MOUT.

[Gallia-]

Where have I seen that gun before... ah, yes!

It's more reminiscent of the 2000 millennium oicw program but okay.

I can see the resemblance but I've never seen the movie.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I've been thinking about something...
It's 1940. Say I want to lock down the Öresund with artillery. Do I want the Bofors 152 mm's or should I go straight to Mörser 18's to deal with treaty cruisers?

[Ideal Britain]

Are bayonets effective for modern riot control?

Does using provost units (e.g. Royal Military Police) for policing civilians cause major problems?

[Gallia-]

I've been thinking about something...
It's 1940. Say I want to lock down the Öresund with artillery. Do I want the Bofors 152 mm's or should I go straight to Mörser 18's to deal with treaty cruisers?

Coastal batteries just get blown up by capital ships except by accident.

Sweden has B18 so why not use that?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I've been thinking about something...
It's 1940. Say I want to lock down the Öresund with artillery. Do I want the Bofors 152 mm's or should I go straight to Mörser 18's to deal with treaty cruisers?

Coastal batteries just get blown up by capital ships except by accident.

Sweden has B18 so why not use that?

I may have been overly impressed with the performance of 2 11" Krupp guns in Oslofjord. Granted I think a nearly 440 pound/200 kg shell from a Mörser 18 whether AP or not will mess up even an overbuilt heavy like an Admiral Hipper.
I do understand that for the above to happen absolute surprise is necessary and in an age of aerial reconnaissance that may be impossible.

[Gallia-]

The torpedoes did more damage and Blucher was confused. They weren't actually expecting to be shot at because they thought they had surprise. All it really requires is a lucky set of circumstances where a surface ship is caught unawares by a rascally shore battery commander. The background of Drobak Sound is that it's a tiny naval engagement between a SAG and a large series of surface batteries and torpedoes in what was supposed to be a coup de main, but the Norwegian colonel in charge took a chance and shot at the Germans. It had no serious ill effects on the German assault or its success either way, but I suppose it made an interesting movie scene.

This isn't really possible if the cruiser is told "suppress the coastal batteries" though. Because they're coming in looking for a fight.

But cruisers and surface ships tend to die on contact with dive bombers and coastal aircraft, so just pack Scania with Beaufighters and Hurricanes and you'll be OK.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I do wonder now how long ERSTA would've lasted. Probs not very long if the Russians came for Sweden for realz.

[Hrstrovokia]

What's the optimal weight for an MBT to do amphibious landings?

Below 50 tonnes?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

What's the optimal weight for an MBT to do amphibious landings?

Below 50 tonnes?

How capable load-wise is your fastest transport? Because lifting Leopard 2A4's does not really cause undue problems for a properly outfitted landing ship. LCU's are a bit on the slow side though.

[Hrstrovokia]

What's the optimal weight for an MBT to do amphibious landings?

Below 50 tonnes?

How capable load-wise is your fastest transport?

French EDA-R Landing Craft (100 tonnes); supposed to be able to support an Abrams, Leopard or 2 Leclercs.

[Gallia-]

What's the optimal weight for an MBT to do amphibious landings?

Below 50 tonnes?

It doesn't really matter.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

Need help designing a modern strike fighter with the main purpose of carrying 3 tactical 50 Kt bombs (B-57 on steroids) while also being able to defend itself against possible enemy interceptors. I’m thinking enlarged MiG-25RB with some limited stealth capabilities and emphasis on ECM. Also could potentially arm it with 1 nuclear AAM at the expense of 1 bomb while we’re at it...
Anyone has any good documents that include AIR-2 Genie testing results?

[Austrasien]

Need help designing a modern strike fighter with the main purpose of carrying 3 tactical 50 Kt bombs (B-57 on steroids) while also being able to defend itself against possible enemy interceptors. I’m thinking enlarged MiG-25RB with some limited stealth capabilities and emphasis on ECM. Also could potentially arm it with 1 nuclear AAM at the expense of 1 bomb while we’re at it...
Anyone has any good documents that include AIR-2 Genie testing results?

https://testpilot.ru/en/rossiya-e/mikoyan/70-1/

[Dayganistan]

Need help designing a modern strike fighter with the main purpose of carrying 3 tactical 50 Kt bombs (B-57 on steroids) while also being able to defend itself against possible enemy interceptors. I’m thinking enlarged MiG-25RB with some limited stealth capabilities and emphasis on ECM. Also could potentially arm it with 1 nuclear AAM at the expense of 1 bomb while we’re at it...
Anyone has any good documents that include AIR-2 Genie testing results?

The F-15E is almost exactly what you're looking for.

[The Corparation]

Need help designing a modern strike fighter with the main purpose of carrying 3 tactical 50 Kt bombs (B-57 on steroids) while also being able to defend itself against possible enemy interceptors. I’m thinking enlarged MiG-25RB with some limited stealth capabilities and emphasis on ECM. Also could potentially arm it with 1 nuclear AAM at the expense of 1 bomb while we’re at it...
Anyone has any good documents that include AIR-2 Genie testing results?

Nuclear AAMs aren't really a useful self defense weapon. The idea behind them was to knock down entire formations of bombers at once but the issue is that modern bombers don't fly in formation like they did in the days of old. Unguided weapons like genie even more so. Just carry sidewinders or amraams for self defense. Cheaper and more effective.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

Need help designing a modern strike fighter with the main purpose of carrying 3 tactical 50 Kt bombs (B-57 on steroids) while also being able to defend itself against possible enemy interceptors. I’m thinking enlarged MiG-25RB with some limited stealth capabilities and emphasis on ECM. Also could potentially arm it with 1 nuclear AAM at the expense of 1 bomb while we’re at it...
Anyone has any good documents that include AIR-2 Genie testing results?

https://testpilot.ru/en/rossiya-e/mikoyan/70-1/

I’ve read about it and even talked to one of the men who worked on the project like in March- MiG OKB shares the cafe with us. The problem is that this is an interceptor, and trying to turn it into a nuclear weapons purpose-carrier might very well get quite cheesy, because of the payload’s weight to begin with. Secondly, taking into account that this plane is destined for one and only purpose: to deliver tactical nuclear bombs or short-range missiles to the enemy forces, I’m thinking making it somewhat stealthi-sh just to allow it to get pass some AA.

[Austrasien]

I’m thinking enlarged MiG-25RB

The problem is that this is an interceptor, and trying to turn it into a nuclear weapons purpose-carrier might very well get quite cheesy

A 50kt nuclear warhead will weigh less than 200lbs. You seem to be confused about everything you want.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

I’m thinking enlarged MiG-25RB

The problem is that this is an interceptor, and trying to turn it into a nuclear weapons purpose-carrier might very well get quite cheesy

A 50kt nuclear warhead will weigh less than 200lbs. You seem to be confused about everything you want.

TFW a stock MiG-25 can already carry four B-57s in place of the R-40s and launch them over-the-shoulder supersonic toss-bombing with minimal effort.

Maybe if you wanted megaton-yield nuclear bombs, but then you just grab an F-4 Phantom II or F-105 Thud.

[Austrasien]

1. The idea of a self-defense nuclear AAM is as has been stated, a bit odd.
2. Three 50kt nuclear bombs is such a small payload it could be carried by just about any postwar jet.
3. The Mig 7.01 is unsuitable because it... meets all the requirements for a tactical supersonic bomber with some signature reduction and self-defense capability? Sure it can't carry a massive number of bombs, but when the objective load is well under 1000lbs this is hardly a serious problem.

If you wanted a Mig-25 but actually a bomber the first item on the agenda would be adding space for a bomb bay.

[Dtn]

I’m thinking enlarged MiG-25RB

The problem is that this is an interceptor, and trying to turn it into a nuclear weapons purpose-carrier might very well get quite cheesy

A 50kt nuclear warhead will weigh less than 200lbs. You seem to be confused about everything you want.

Not to mention the MiG-701 was simply a rebadge of the Sukhoi T-60S bomber after the designer was forced to switch bureaus.

What kind of "Technician at Sukhoi Design Beaurau, university student at MAI" are we dealing with here?

[Dayganistan]

Literally any modern multirole fighter can be a tactical nuclear bomber with self defence capability. Not sure why we're trying to reinvent the wheel here.