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Republic of Penguinian Astronautia
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Postby Republic of Penguinian Astronautia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:26 pm

How long should soldiers hair be?
(This is mostly a satirical question, but also kind of serious at the same time.

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Postby Sevvania » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:28 pm

Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:How long should soldiers hair be?
(This is mostly a satirical question, but also kind of serious at the same time.

Short enough that it can't be pulled or caught on a tripwire.
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Dayganistan
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Postby Dayganistan » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:44 pm

Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:How long should soldiers hair be?
(This is mostly a satirical question, but also kind of serious at the same time.

For men, as long as they can keep it neat and professional looking without having to do a ponytail or a ridiculous man bun which are both inherently unprofessional looking. For women, as long as they want so long as they can tie it up without it adding unnecessary bulk that would interfere with wearing helmets.
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:52 pm

Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:How long should soldiers hair be?
(This is mostly a satirical question, but also kind of serious at the same time.

Soldiers should have all hair removed for maximum aerodynamic efficiency.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:30 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:How long should soldiers hair be?
(This is mostly a satirical question, but also kind of serious at the same time.

Soldiers should have all hair removed for maximum aerodynamic efficiency.

Buzzcuts for everyone.
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Postby The Union of British North America » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:27 pm

Is the FN FAL (my country uses an alt-universe version of it) a good weapon for mass usage in a military alliance in the 21st century? Perhaps if it uses an intermediate cartridge such as the .280 British?
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Postby Gallia- » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:34 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:How long should soldiers hair be?
(This is mostly a satirical question, but also kind of serious at the same time.

Soldiers should have all hair removed for maximum aerodynamic efficiency.


Only body hair.

Head hair should be retained for atomic thermal shock and UV protection. Preferably in androgynous bob cuts of exotic colors like pink, actual red, and blue, that make it difficult to discern the sex of the troops because they're all really cool dudes.

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Postby Crookfur » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:39 pm

The Union of British North America wrote:Is the FN FAL (my country uses an alt-universe version of it) a good weapon for mass usage in a military alliance in the 21st century? Perhaps if it uses an intermediate cartridge such as the .280 British?

Nope.

Like all the serious FAL users you would have switched to a lighter, cheaper and more accurate rotary bolt system in the 80s/90s (most likely something based on the AR-18).

Even with .280 being adopted in a FAL you would still have likely found the ammo to have been not much of an improvement over 7.62x51mm and have thus have embraced the SCHV concept. Now wither you would have used 5.56mm or something more tea flavoured like 4.85x49mm is up to you.
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Postby The Union of British North America » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:00 am

Crookfur wrote:
The Union of British North America wrote:Is the FN FAL (my country uses an alt-universe version of it) a good weapon for mass usage in a military alliance in the 21st century? Perhaps if it uses an intermediate cartridge such as the .280 British?

Nope.

Like all the serious FAL users you would have switched to a lighter, cheaper and more accurate rotary bolt system in the 80s/90s (most likely something based on the AR-18).

Even with .280 being adopted in a FAL you would still have likely found the ammo to have been not much of an improvement over 7.62x51mm and have thus have embraced the SCHV concept. Now wither you would have used 5.56mm or something more tea flavoured like 4.85x49mm is up to you.


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Ok, I'll consider doing something like an AR-18. I've entertained that previously with my nation's service rifle but went with a FAL-based weapon due to pictures that have that weapon as opposed to something based more on an AR-18, but yes a lot of countries adopted the rotary bolt system with their rifles, like Britain, Singapore, Japan and Germany. I was partial to weapons looking like the SR-80 or the SR-88. But why not a cartridge in the 6 mm range?
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Postby Anemos Major » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:27 am

gotta love that new thread smell

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Postby Republic of Penguinian Astronautia » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:37 am

The Corparation wrote:
Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:How long should soldiers hair be?
(This is mostly a satirical question, but also kind of serious at the same time.

Soldiers should have all hair removed for maximum aerodynamic efficiency.

This is the answer I was looking for.

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Postby Purpelia » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:51 am

Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:How long should soldiers hair be?
(This is mostly a satirical question, but also kind of serious at the same time.

A mans qualities stem from the volume and quality of his hair. All of his hair. Armpits, nose, face, head even the stuff sticking out through your sewage outlet. A true man thus newer shaves. NEWER SHAVES.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:05 am

Gallia- wrote:hair bad

NO. HAIR GOOD.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:45 am

How many 500 kg zab's do I need to make a dug in infantry company really annoyed with me? *thinking*

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Postby Altpeak » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:26 pm

Do man-packed .50 cal machine guns still have a place in a modern infantry battalion? In the context of a battalion machine gun platoon, the range and power of a .50 cal makes some sense but for the most part, it looks like how heavy they are and how little ammo the team would actually be able to carry for them negates those advantages that the larger caliber would bring to a leg infantry unit.
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Postby Almadaria » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:34 pm

"Soldiers with less hair are less attractive, thus removing concerns for fraternization between the rank and file." --Clausewitz or smtn idk

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Postby New Visayan Islands » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:00 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:How long should soldiers hair be?
(This is mostly a satirical question, but also kind of serious at the same time.

Soldiers should have all hair removed for maximum aerodynamic efficiency.

Also so that it's easier to fit gas masks, IIRC.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:49 pm

All Purpelian officers above and including the rank of regimental commander must cultivate facial hair as part of their uniform. Medical and barber exemptions are possible for those that just can't grow good looking facial hair. But they are rarely used as it's something of a stigmatized thing to do.
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:10 am

Almadaria wrote:"Soldiers with less hair are less attractive, thus removing concerns for fraternization between the rank and file." --Clausewitz or smtn idk

Fraternisation is an offence between officers and enlisted troops.
Soldiers are encouraged to bond with troops of equal ranks so if anything that’s a good thing.
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:19 am

lmao cant wait for the soldier's soviets, and aristocrats adorning lampposts.
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Postby Gallia- » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:27 am

why would you hang the local soviet you elected them tho

leninism but it's small business local democracy oriented

leninism but lenin's a menshevik and obliterates the enemy

so eserism???
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