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Spirit of Hope
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:45 pm

Cossack Peoples wrote:I'm beginning to tell that I'll have to put up with a lot of space bs in the foreseeable future, so what do you all think is the best MT way to deter le cliche orbital bombardment platform?


Pointing out they cost way more than any conventional way of delivering the same result.

If you are actually shooting them down, then ASAT weapons are around, and can be launched form aircraft and warships.

If you have ground launch facilities that can get something into the same orbit as the target satellite, then you can kill it by simply launching your own satellite to crash into it.

Satellites can't hide well, and have limited maneuverability so once you know what a particular satellite is for it is relatively easy to track, and in our case, kill.
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:20 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Cossack Peoples wrote:I'm beginning to tell that I'll have to put up with a lot of space bs in the foreseeable future, so what do you all think is the best MT way to deter le cliche orbital bombardment platform?


Pointing out they cost way more than any conventional way of delivering the same result.

If you are actually shooting them down, then ASAT weapons are around, and can be launched form aircraft and warships.

If you have ground launch facilities that can get something into the same orbit as the target satellite, then you can kill it by simply launching your own satellite to crash into it.

Satellites can't hide well, and have limited maneuverability so once you know what a particular satellite is for it is relatively easy to track, and in our case, kill.

The ASM-135 seems interesting... but for satellites in Low-Earth Orbit would (counter-(?))satellites and ICBMs be the only way to reach those targets?

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Postby Gallia- » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:16 am

Cossack Peoples wrote:I'm beginning to tell that I'll have to put up with a lot of space bs in the foreseeable future, so what do you all think is the best MT way to deter le cliche orbital bombardment platform?


Obviously the best anti-satellite weapon is the one that is there before the shooting starts.
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Postby Ideal Britain » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:23 am

If your soldier breaks the laws of the enemy (not your own laws) and is likely to be sentenced to death would exchanging all the enemy prisoners for his release he unpopular?
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Postby Purpelia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:30 am

Ideal Britain wrote:If your soldier breaks the laws of the enemy (not your own laws) and is likely to be sentenced to death would exchanging all the enemy prisoners for his release he unpopular?

Unanswerable. It depends entirely on a myriad of factors including but not limited to what exactly he did, why he did it, who he did it to, your popular opinion about said enemy, propaganda from both sides etc. etc. etc.
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Postby Gallia- » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:09 am

Would surrendering because your enemy uses awful footwraps instead of normal socks and the stench of enemy platoons biouvacing outside your trenches is unbearable be unpopular? Would this be sensible? Also how many child waifus should each soldier have and should officers allowed to rape their girlfriends like in Wings of Honneamise without repercussion?

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Postby Ideal Britain » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:13 am

Gallia- wrote:Would surrendering because your enemy uses awful footwraps instead of normal socks and the stench of enemy platoons biouvacing outside your trenches is unbearable be unpopular? Would this be sensible? Also how many child waifus should each soldier have and should officers allowed to rape their girlfriends like in Wings of Honneamise without repercussion?

1.in terms of young adult women soldiers can have up to 6 legal wives at a time or 4 if their Muslim. They’re not children. The age of consent and majority in Ideal Britain are both 16 also “child” makes it sound like their pre-teens or at least underage (which they are in Northumbria but never mind)
2. No because rape is considered a vile crime and protectiveness of women is important to the Khan Labour government.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:22 am

Ideal Britain wrote:
Gallia- wrote:Would surrendering because your enemy uses awful footwraps instead of normal socks and the stench of enemy platoons biouvacing outside your trenches is unbearable be unpopular? Would this be sensible? Also how many child waifus should each soldier have and should officers allowed to rape their girlfriends like in Wings of Honneamise without repercussion?

1.in terms of young adult women soldiers can have up to 6 legal wives at a time or 4 if their Muslim. They’re not children. The age of consent and majority in Ideal Britain are both 16 also “child” makes it sound like their pre-teens or at least underage (which they are in Northumbria but never mind)
2. No because rape is considered a vile crime and protectiveness of women is important to the Khan Labour government.

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Postby Purpelia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:26 am

Gallia- wrote:Would surrendering because your enemy uses awful footwraps instead of normal socks and the stench of enemy platoons biouvacing outside your trenches is unbearable be unpopular?

Depends on other factors such as how good the food is. Although I'd imagine that they'd be the ones surrendering to you and not the other way around.

Would this be sensible?

In a pre-modern era where combat is much closer up I could see it happening. Although I'd imagine drink would be involved as well.

Also how many child waifus should each soldier have

Not one less than is necessary and not one more than is required. Also potentially consider timesharing if demand outstrips supply.

and should officers allowed to rape their girlfriends like in Wings of Honneamise without repercussion?

Depends. Is the girlfriend in question one of your citizens or a foreigner he picked up on campaign? Also on the star sign and the color of the border of the most popular brand of trading cards at the time.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Gallia- » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:27 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Ideal Britain wrote:1.in terms of young adult women soldiers can have up to 6 legal wives at a time or 4 if their Muslim. They’re not children. The age of consent and majority in Ideal Britain are both 16 also “child” makes it sound like their pre-teens or at least underage (which they are in Northumbria but never mind)
2. No because rape is considered a vile crime and protectiveness of women is important to the Khan Labour government.

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Postby Purpelia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:27 am


I got it. I just figured I might as well run with it and keep it going to see how long it would take for the original target to figure it out.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:32 am

We should put some postings on ration tbqfh. Once a year sounds good to me.

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Postby Gallia- » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:33 am

Purpelia wrote:

I got it. I just figured I might as well run with it and keep it going to see how long it would take for the original target to figure it out.


But you never figured it out. ):

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:We should put some postings on ration tbqfh. Once a year sounds good to me.


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Postby New Vihenia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:49 am

Build a real Spez warship.

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Postby Ideal Britain » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:06 am

Gallia- wrote:based

I see you know my middle name
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Postby Ideal Britain » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:13 am

Gallia- wrote::\

By the way I knew it was a joke, I just decided to respond to it anyway.
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Postby Gallia- » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:28 am

Cascade is pretty cool. I might draw a gold one for Dumbla. It'll probably be nuclear powered though.

For some reason I prefer bus pebble carriers over isolated BPs.

Maybe because it has more of a "space ship" vibe than the "integrated autonomous blockchain swarm attack network drone system" that BP does.
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Postby Hrstrovokia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:19 pm

Is there any point attaching Kornet ATGM launchers onto the turret of a T-72 variant tank?

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Postby New Vihenia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:27 pm

Hrstrovokia wrote:Is there any point attaching Kornet ATGM launchers onto the turret of a T-72 variant tank?


Is there any reason not to use Refleks ?
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:36 pm

Hrstrovokia wrote:Is there any point attaching Kornet ATGM launchers onto the turret of a T-72 variant tank?

Tanks already have a perfectly good AT weapon in the shape of their gun, why would you add an additional AT weapon?

Cossack Peoples wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Pointing out they cost way more than any conventional way of delivering the same result.

If you are actually shooting them down, then ASAT weapons are around, and can be launched form aircraft and warships.

If you have ground launch facilities that can get something into the same orbit as the target satellite, then you can kill it by simply launching your own satellite to crash into it.

Satellites can't hide well, and have limited maneuverability so once you know what a particular satellite is for it is relatively easy to track, and in our case, kill.

The ASM-135 seems interesting... but for satellites in Low-Earth Orbit would (counter-(?))satellites and ICBMs be the only way to reach those targets?


Counter satellite satellites are probably your best bet, yes.
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Postby Danternoust » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:55 pm

Cossack Peoples wrote:I'm beginning to tell that I'll have to put up with a lot of space bs in the foreseeable future, so what do you all think is the best MT way to deter le cliche orbital bombardment platform?

Just do it already, after the first space war, Kessler syndrome will take care of the rest.

Too bad dry mass for interplanetary shuttles will have to double, but it is do-able.

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Postby Cossack Peoples » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:59 pm

I might just antagonize the entirety of the globe by just having "an ineffectual space program" when in reality all launches were successful in distributing debris and its doubtful many will see it coming

"You give a monkey a stick, inevitably he’ll beat another monkey to death with it."
— Sadavir Errinwright, Expanse S2E12
"Вечнасць для Czaslyudiya!"
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A corrupt, Post-Soviet anocracy whose de facto third branch of government is an arms manufacturer.
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We're also the Czaslyudian Peoples now. Don't ask.

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